I had a good experience, almost perfect, with Fedora some months ago, staring with the Beta of F20. Since then I've tried several Linux distros, each of them as usual, with some issue to separate itself from the rest. I have a new Lenovo Yoga ultrabook and want to ruin LInux on. I have been through 3 or 4. So I thought, "Let's try Fedora again."
The install went well on this UEFI system, installing the other linux distros on other partitions, as well as the Windows Boot Loader, on the Grub menu. I am happy, Fedora is awesome.
With the exception of a couple of wrinkles.
First, I cannot seem to install Jupiter or any other useful cpufrequency tool. And with Fedora, I only see two governor options: performance, and powersave. This is extremely frustrating. This laptop is running an Intel i7 Mobile processor that touts a high CPU freq, but this is only in a "turbo" mode. Other distros have picked up at least four, on this same machine. What are the limitations I am facing here? Kernel, modules, or the inavailability of certain packages, like Jupiter, which I am starting to like quite a lot?
As a more general remark, Fedora 20 seems to have left a number of other packages behind as well.
I ran into a brick wall as far as documentation on this issue, the issue about cpu frequency.
I have now resorted to Desktop Manager roulette to try to find one that supports this. The E17, for example, cpufreq tool, which works fine elsewhere, does not function.
Thank you,
Alan Davis
On May 8, 2014 9:27 PM, "Alan E. Davis" lngndvs@gmail.com wrote:
I had a good experience, almost perfect, with Fedora some months ago,
staring with the Beta of F20. Since then I've tried several Linux distros, each of them as usual, with some issue to separate itself from the rest. I have a new Lenovo Yoga ultrabook and want to ruin LInux on. I have been through 3 or 4. So I thought, "Let's try Fedora again."
The install went well on this UEFI system, installing the other linux
distros on other partitions, as well as the Windows Boot Loader, on the Grub menu. I am happy, Fedora is awesome.
With the exception of a couple of wrinkles.
First, I cannot seem to install Jupiter or any other useful cpufrequency
tool. And with Fedora, I only see two governor options: performance, and powersave. This is extremely frustrating. This laptop is running an Intel i7 Mobile processor that touts a high CPU freq, but this is only in a "turbo" mode. Other distros have picked up at least four, on this same machine. What are the limitations I am facing here? Kernel, modules, or the inavailability of certain packages, like Jupiter, which I am starting to like quite a lot?
As a more general remark, Fedora 20 seems to have left a number of other
packages behind as well.
I ran into a brick wall as far as documentation on this issue, the issue
about cpu frequency.
I have now resorted to Desktop Manager roulette to try to find one that
supports this. The E17, for example, cpufreq tool, which works fine elsewhere, does not function.
Thank you,
Alan Davis
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From what I heard Jupiter isn't being developed actively anymore. Most of
the things it touted to fix have been incorporated upstream. The only laptop battery saver tools, supposedly, I use are TLP and Thermal Daemon. And you shouldn't be messing up with tools like cpufreq unless you know what you are doing.
- Sudhir Khanger.
The biggest question for me is this: is it a kernel issue that I am only seeing two governors, when other OSs see 4?
Alan
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sudhir Khanger sudhir@sudhirkhanger.comwrote:
On May 8, 2014 9:27 PM, "Alan E. Davis" lngndvs@gmail.com wrote:
I had a good experience, almost perfect, with Fedora some months ago,
staring with the Beta of F20. Since then I've tried several Linux distros, each of them as usual, with some issue to separate itself from the rest. I have a new Lenovo Yoga ultrabook and want to ruin LInux on. I have been through 3 or 4. So I thought, "Let's try Fedora again."
The install went well on this UEFI system, installing the other linux
distros on other partitions, as well as the Windows Boot Loader, on the Grub menu. I am happy, Fedora is awesome.
With the exception of a couple of wrinkles.
First, I cannot seem to install Jupiter or any other useful cpufrequency
tool. And with Fedora, I only see two governor options: performance, and powersave. This is extremely frustrating. This laptop is running an Intel i7 Mobile processor that touts a high CPU freq, but this is only in a "turbo" mode. Other distros have picked up at least four, on this same machine. What are the limitations I am facing here? Kernel, modules, or the inavailability of certain packages, like Jupiter, which I am starting to like quite a lot?
As a more general remark, Fedora 20 seems to have left a number of other
packages behind as well.
I ran into a brick wall as far as documentation on this issue, the issue
about cpu frequency.
I have now resorted to Desktop Manager roulette to try to find one that
supports this. The E17, for example, cpufreq tool, which works fine elsewhere, does not function.
Thank you,
Alan Davis
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From what I heard Jupiter isn't being developed actively anymore. Most of the things it touted to fix have been incorporated upstream. The only laptop battery saver tools, supposedly, I use are TLP and Thermal Daemon. And you shouldn't be messing up with tools like cpufreq unless you know what you are doing.
Sudhir Khanger.
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On 10.05.2014, Alan E. Davis wrote:
The biggest question for me is this: is it a kernel issue that I am only seeing two governors, when other OSs see 4?
First: I do not run Fedora kernels, and therefore I don't know how they are configured.
The "problem" you describe is most probably caused by the Fedora kernel using Intel pstates. You can "fix" that by recompiling your kernel with CONFIG_X86_INTEL_PSTATE disabled.
Intel pstate use its own (internal) governor, therefore, some of the other scaling drivers aren't available.
What is the danger of messing with cpufreq?
Alan
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Sudhir Khanger sudhir@sudhirkhanger.comwrote:
On May 8, 2014 9:27 PM, "Alan E. Davis" lngndvs@gmail.com wrote:
I had a good experience, almost perfect, with Fedora some months ago,
staring with the Beta of F20. Since then I've tried several Linux distros, each of them as usual, with some issue to separate itself from the rest. I have a new Lenovo Yoga ultrabook and want to ruin LInux on. I have been through 3 or 4. So I thought, "Let's try Fedora again."
The install went well on this UEFI system, installing the other linux
distros on other partitions, as well as the Windows Boot Loader, on the Grub menu. I am happy, Fedora is awesome.
With the exception of a couple of wrinkles.
First, I cannot seem to install Jupiter or any other useful cpufrequency
tool. And with Fedora, I only see two governor options: performance, and powersave. This is extremely frustrating. This laptop is running an Intel i7 Mobile processor that touts a high CPU freq, but this is only in a "turbo" mode. Other distros have picked up at least four, on this same machine. What are the limitations I am facing here? Kernel, modules, or the inavailability of certain packages, like Jupiter, which I am starting to like quite a lot?
As a more general remark, Fedora 20 seems to have left a number of other
packages behind as well.
I ran into a brick wall as far as documentation on this issue, the issue
about cpu frequency.
I have now resorted to Desktop Manager roulette to try to find one that
supports this. The E17, for example, cpufreq tool, which works fine elsewhere, does not function.
Thank you,
Alan Davis
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From what I heard Jupiter isn't being developed actively anymore. Most of the things it touted to fix have been incorporated upstream. The only laptop battery saver tools, supposedly, I use are TLP and Thermal Daemon. And you shouldn't be messing up with tools like cpufreq unless you know what you are doing.
Sudhir Khanger.
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On 05/11/14 03:50, Alan E. Davis wrote:
What is the danger of messing with cpufreq?
depends how how much you 'mess with cpu freq'.
with "today's" mainboards and limitations set by em, you will/may not be able to do harm.
have a look at;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_clocking
and check the "See also" near bottom of page.
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