4:20 a.m.
I have computer which I build for 13 years ago. I have just replaced the battery on the
motherboard and could restart
the computer and everything worked OK. The I needed to restart the the computer again and
it did not boot from
the hard drive. I could start it from SystemRescueCD and the file systems where OK, fsck
on them all where OK.
From that I conclude that it must be the boot partition that is corrupted.
How can I fix the boot partition?
Regards
Jon Ingason
6:31 a.m.
I am not entirely sure how it booted after replacing the battery, but
this sounds like a bios setting got cleared and/or reset. My 10 year
old MB defaults to EFI on a bios reset and that will cause a failure
to boot.
I would try hitting the key to allow you to choose a boot device
(varies by bios maker) and see if you can choose the hard drive and
get it to boot, but if you have EFI in the bios and you installed it
as legacy bios then that will not boot.
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:21 AM jon.ingason(a)telia.com
<jon.ingason(a)telia.com> wrote:
>
> I have computer which I build for 13 years ago. I have just replaced the battery on
the motherboard and could restart
> the computer and everything worked OK. The I needed to restart the the computer again
and it did not boot from
> the hard drive. I could start it from SystemRescueCD and the file systems where OK,
fsck on them all where OK.
> From that I conclude that it must be the boot partition that is corrupted.
> How can I fix the boot partition?
>
> Regards
> Jon Ingason
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10:25 a.m.
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Ämne : Re: Computer will not boot from harddrive
I am not entirely sure how it booted after replacing the battery, but
this sounds like a bios setting got cleared and/or reset. My 10 year
old MB defaults to EFI on a bios reset and that will cause a failure
to boot.
This MB is legasy BIOS, no EFI.
I would try hitting the key to allow you to choose a boot device
(varies by bios maker) and see if you can choose the hard drive and
get it to boot, but if you have EFI in the bios and you installed it
as legacy bios then that will not boot.
I know that that BIOS was reset when I changed the battery and I changed the
BIOS setting so I could boot from the hard drive which contain the boot partition.
It was when I restarted computer I got the problem. Since I could boot SRCD
and monted the filsystems I draw the conclution that the boot partition must
be corrupted.
The question is how can I repair the boot partition?
Regards
Jon Ingason
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 4:21 AM jon.ingason(a)telia.com
<jon.ingason(a)telia.com> wrote:
>
> I have computer which I build for 13 years ago. I have just replaced the battery on
the motherboard and could restart
> the computer and everything worked OK. The I needed to restart the the computer again
and it did not boot from
> the hard drive. I could start it from SystemRescueCD and the file systems where OK,
fsck on them all where OK.
> From that I conclude that it must be the boot partition that is corrupted.
> How can I fix the boot partition?
>
> Regards
> Jon Ingason
>
11:18 a.m.
On Fri, 15 May 2020 17:25:04 +0200 (CEST)
"jon.ingason(a)telia.com" <jon.ingason(a)telia.com> wrote:
The question is how can I repair the boot partition?
Since you are running legacy BIOS, I think you mean the MBR at the
start of the drive, right? The command to do that is
grub-install /dev/[sda]
where sda is the name of the hard drive you want to fix. Not a
partition, but the whole device.
blkid
will give you the device names for your system.
2:40 p.m.
Fixing the boot depends on how it is broke. It could be boot block
missing, grub stage1.5-3 pieces missing, grub.conf missing corrupted
and/or kernel/initramfs files, missing boot flag on the partition.
What message does it give you when you attempt to boot up?
And in general except for a single condition I know of that would have
required you to be updating kernels before the final reboot, typically
the boot stuff does not suddenly stop working. So you probably need
to indicate what work you did on that last boot. There are 2-3
different failures you can have if you were updating a kernel and it
did not go exactly right. Where exactly is it failing in the boot?
And I deal with people all day that come to me with how do I do this
to fix linux booting, and rarely are their guesses on what is actually
broken and needs to be fix right. And often if they fixed what they
wanted to do would have made things much worse..
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:19 AM stan via users
<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 17:25:04 +0200 (CEST)
> "jon.ingason(a)telia.com" <jon.ingason(a)telia.com> wrote:
>
> > The question is how can I repair the boot partition?
>
> Since you are running legacy BIOS, I think you mean the MBR at the
> start of the drive, right? The command to do that is
>
> grub-install /dev/[sda]
>
> where sda is the name of the hard drive you want to fix. Not a
> partition, but the whole device.
>
> blkid
> will give you the device names for your system.
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Ämne : Re: Computer will not boot from harddrive
Fixing the boot depends on how it is broke. It could be boot block
missing, grub stage1.5-3 pieces missing, grub.conf missing corrupted
and/or kernel/initramfs files, missing boot flag on the partition.
What message does it give you when you attempt to boot up?
And in general except for a single condition I know of that would have
required you to be updating kernels before the final reboot, typically
the boot stuff does not suddenly stop working. So you probably need
to indicate what work you did on that last boot. There are 2-3
different failures you can have if you were updating a kernel and it
did not go exactly right. Where exactly is it failing in the boot?
And I deal with people all day that come to me with how do I do this
to fix linux booting, and rarely are their guesses on what is actually
broken and needs to be fix right. And often if they fixed what they
wanted to do would have made things much worse..
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:19 AM stan via users
<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 17:25:04 +0200 (CEST)
> "jon.ingason(a)telia.com" <jon.ingason(a)telia.com> wrote:
> > The question is how can I repair the boot partition?
> Since you are running legacy BIOS, I think you mean the
MBR at the
> start of the drive, right? The command to do that is
> grub-install /dev/[sda]
> where sda is the name of the hard drive you want to fix.
Not a
> partition, but the whole device.
> blkid
> will give you the device names for your system.
OK thans I think I have got it.
Will try to morrow to se if I have got it right.
4:46 p.m.
On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 16:42, Roger Heflin <rogerheflin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Fixing the boot depends on how it is broke. It could be boot block
missing, grub stage1.5-3 pieces missing, grub.conf missing corrupted
and/or kernel/initramfs files, missing boot flag on the partition.
Don't overlook hardware issues. The hard disk may have failed, but
there could also be a bad cable. Some cheap cable lose spring tension
in contacts over time. It sometimes helps to unplug and reinsert each
connector. If a connection is loose so it takes very little effort to
unplug,
the cable probably needs to be replaced. I've seen connects so loose
that the fell off when a system was moved.
What message does it give you when you attempt to boot up?
And in general except for a single condition I know of that would have
required you to be updating kernels before the final reboot, typically
the boot stuff does not suddenly stop working. So you probably need
to indicate what work you did on that last boot. There are 2-3
different failures you can have if you were updating a kernel and it
did not go exactly right. Where exactly is it failing in the boot?
And I deal with people all day that come to me with how do I do this
to fix linux booting, and rarely are their guesses on what is actually
broken and needs to be fix right. And often if they fixed what they
wanted to do would have made things much worse..
Excellent advice.
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:19 AM stan via users
<users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 17:25:04 +0200 (CEST)
> "jon.ingason(a)telia.com" <jon.ingason(a)telia.com> wrote:
>
> > The question is how can I repair the boot partition?
>
> Since you are running legacy BIOS, I think you mean the MBR at the
> start of the drive, right? The command to do that is
>
> grub-install /dev/[sda]
>
> where sda is the name of the hard drive you want to fix. Not a
> partition, but the whole device.
>
> blkid
> will give you the device names for your system.
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:21, jon.ingason(a)telia.com <jon.ingason(a)telia.com>
wrote:
I have computer which I build for 13 years ago. I have just replaced
the
battery on the motherboard and could restart
the computer and everything worked OK. The I needed to restart the the
computer again and it did not boot from
the hard drive. I could start it from SystemRescueCD and the file systems
where OK, fsck on them all where OK.
From that I conclude that it must be the boot partition that is corrupted.
How can I fix the boot partition?
Was there some event you think caused the problem? How old is the hard
disk? Before
spending time trying to recover the system, you should run some disk
diagnostics. If your
drive is old and you don't have a good backup you might be better off
copying important
stuff from the old disk to a new disk.
You may be able to get a CD image from the drive's vendor (assuming you can
figure out what company
has support for your model) and you can install the smartmontools from a
live boot and run the long test.
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