Hi, upgrading from fedora 20 to fedora 21 using fedup I encounter an error. I issue the following command and after downloading all the rpm files there is an upgrade test that fails in this way
Upgrade test failed with the following problems: insufficient disk space: / needs 3.2G more free space fedup ERROR: Upgrade test failed.
I don't know how to manage this problems, googling tells me to find two folders /var/tmp/fedora-release and /var/lib/fedora-release, to copy them in the home directory where I have enough space and make symbolic liks to these two folders. The problem are that I'm not able to find /var/tmp/fedora-release and /var/lib/fedora-release, I'm not able to locate where fedup has store the new F21 rpm files, and then I don't know how to free the fedup needed space 3.2 Gb.
Thanks for any answer and sorry for my english.
I've found two folders /var/lib/system-upgrade containing a .conf file and /var/cache/system/upgrade containing the new packages. Can I symlink these two folders?
fedup upgrade stuck at "Welcome to fedup-dracut-0.9.0!"
after moving mounts into /system-upgrade-root /boot/efi /boot and /home upgrade prep complete, switching to root ...
Welcome to fedup-dracut-0.9.0!
no other life signal ...
what to do?
On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 10:07 +0000, luca.paganotti@gmail.com wrote:
fedup upgrade stuck at "Welcome to fedup-dracut-0.9.0!"
after moving mounts into /system-upgrade-root /boot/efi /boot and /home upgrade prep complete, switching to root ...
Welcome to fedup-dracut-0.9.0!
no other life signal ...
what to do?
The current release of Fedora is 24, and will be 25 in the next few days (maybe even today). 20 and 21 stopped receiving any support a long time ago. Fedup is no longer even used as the upgrade method. In your situation you are almost certainly better just doing a fresh install of the latest Fedora, after backing up your data of course.
poc
On Tuesday 15 November 2016 10:14:46 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
The current release of Fedora is 24, and will be 25 in the next few days (maybe even today). 20 and 21 stopped receiving any support a long time ago. Fedup is no longer even used as the upgrade method. In your situation you are almost certainly better just doing a fresh install of the latest Fedora, after backing up your data of course.
As someone who has a F21 server that I was just thinking of fedup'ing,
what would be my best choice? (I really don't want to do a clean install)
Allegedly, on or about 15 November 2016, Gary Stainburn sent:
As someone who has a F21 server that I was just thinking of fedup'ing, what would be my best choice? (I really don't want to do a clean install)
I really just cannot imagine going through several updates-over-the-top, to get from a quite out-of-date to a current release, is going to be easier than a fresh install then customise it.
The updates are a nuisance, even if they go through without new bugs for you to deal with (some completely new, others related to incompatibility with what's left behind from previous installs). Time-consuming, storage-space-consuming, etc. And to have to do that several times over. Once is annoying enough (I stopped trying to do that years ago).
Not to mention that there's a very good chance that as you go through different releases, you'll strike things that cause new problems, with each release. Dropped and changed packages, may remove things you wanted, or make them incompatible with past data.
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 10:28:09AM +0000, Gary Stainburn wrote:
As someone who has a F21 server that I was just thinking of fedup'ing,
So, not that this is recommended, but Adam Williamson recently posted about successfully upgrading from Fedora 13 to Fedora 25. So... this is possible. You're just likely to run into some odd situations and need to do cleanup along the way, and it's hard to predict exactly what.
what would be my best choice? (I really don't want to do a clean install)
Aspirationally, the best choice is to get your server to the point where a clean install is no big deal — user and system-local data all in /home and/or /srv, all configuration done with Ansible playbooks (or other config management), etc.
But, not everyone is there :) so, in your case, I think I'd try two hops -- we do support 'N-2' upgrades -- so you can go to F23 and then F25 from there. F21 includes dnf system upgrade, so it'll be the same for both steps. You might also just be fine doing it all in one go.
Hi Patrick, thank you for your answer. I've tons of script an personal data and programs, isn't there a way to gradually upgrate to the latest release? I do not want to loos e any of my personal data and configurations, is it enough to backup my home folder? I've databasese and so on ... I should to remake my machine from scratch?
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 10:07 +0000, luca.paganotti@gmail.com wrote:
fedup upgrade stuck at "Welcome to fedup-dracut-0.9.0!"
after moving mounts into /system-upgrade-root /boot/efi /boot and /home upgrade prep complete, switching to root ...
Welcome to fedup-dracut-0.9.0!
no other life signal ...
what to do?
The current release of Fedora is 24, and will be 25 in the next few days (maybe even today). 20 and 21 stopped receiving any support a long time ago. Fedup is no longer even used as the upgrade method. In your situation you are almost certainly better just doing a fresh install of the latest Fedora, after backing up your data of course.
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If I have to make my machine from scratch, I'm thinking to switch to debian after twenty years of fedora usage ...
On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 11:07 +0000, luca.paganotti@gmail.com wrote:
If I have to make my machine from scratch, I'm thinking to switch to debian after twenty years of fedora usage ...
Your choice of course. Using Fedora means being prepared to upgrade your system at least every year. If you aren't prepared to do that, then you are probably better using a system with greater long term stability. A good choice might be CentOS as it's quite similar to Fedora.
However no-one is saying you have to "make your machine from scratch". If you are taking regular backups you are already prepared for the possibility of losing a disk or upgrading to a new machine. Reinstalling the system is generally easier than either of those scenarios. If some home-grown scripts have to change, they would still have to change going the upgrade path because Fedup (or dnf) is not going to edit them for you.
poc
Sure, fedup doesn't edit my scripts, but should update my system ...
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 11:07 +0000, luca.paganotti@gmail.com wrote:
If I have to make my machine from scratch, I'm thinking to switch to
debian after twenty years of fedora usage ...
Your choice of course. Using Fedora means being prepared to upgrade your system at least every year. If you aren't prepared to do that, then you are probably better using a system with greater long term stability. A good choice might be CentOS as it's quite similar to Fedora.
However no-one is saying you have to "make your machine from scratch". If you are taking regular backups you are already prepared for the possibility of losing a disk or upgrading to a new machine. Reinstalling the system is generally easier than either of those scenarios. If some home-grown scripts have to change, they would still have to change going the upgrade path because Fedup (or dnf) is not going to edit them for you.
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On Tue, 2016-11-15 at 12:35 +0100, luca paganotti wrote:
Sure, fedup doesn't edit my scripts, but should update my system ...
Neither Fedup nor dnf is guaranteed to work when skipping versions, so to get from 20 to 24 (or 25) you will probably have to do several stages:
20 -> 21 21 -> 22 22 -> 23 23 -> 24 24 -> 25
The first few will use Fedup, the later ones will use dnf. The chances of having a problem increase with the number of stages, even after you solve your first problem (which is simply lack of space). I'm not saying it will happen, but it might. Every new release of Fedora brings a spate of emails from people who have had issues with upgrading (of course those who don't have a problem tend not to talk about it as much and I personally have only had good experiences). That's why I suggest that you simply reinstall. In the end it will probably be easier.
poc
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:57:08AM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
20 -> 21 21 -> 22 22 -> 23 23 -> 24 24 -> 25 The first few will use Fedup, the later ones will use dnf. The chances
The dnf system update plugin was added as an update to F21, so it's only the first hop that will be different. That said, I agree with the conclusion -- especially with the lack of space, a new install is probably the best way.
On 11/18/2016 01:32 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:57:08AM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
20 -> 21 21 -> 22 22 -> 23 23 -> 24 24 -> 25 The first few will use Fedup, the later ones will use dnf. The chances
The dnf system update plugin was added as an update to F21, so it's only the first hop that will be different. That said, I agree with the conclusion -- especially with the lack of space, a new install is probably the best way.
How about updating f20 to 21 with yum -y upgrade --releasever=21
Would that work?
On 11/18/2016 01:02 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 11/18/2016 01:32 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 11:57:08AM +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
20 -> 21 21 -> 22 22 -> 23 23 -> 24 24 -> 25 The first few will use Fedup, the later ones will use dnf. The chances
The dnf system update plugin was added as an update to F21, so it's only the first hop that will be different. That said, I agree with the conclusion -- especially with the lack of space, a new install is probably the best way.
How about updating f20 to 21 with yum -y upgrade --releasever=21
Assuming one has all the intervening DVDs and does the upgrades using "local media", I imagine you could do it. I think Fedora releases that old typically can't be upgraded via the network as the repos are archived and not active anymore.
That all being said, 20->21->22->23->24 is going to be an incredibly, tedious, time-consuming process fraught with errors and problems. A fresh install would be much quicker. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - If at first you don't succeed, quit. No sense being a damned fool! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 02:02:39PM -0700, jd1008 wrote:
How about updating f20 to 21 with yum -y upgrade --releasever=21 Would that work?
Probably -- see the caveats at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_package_manager.
Additionally, old releases are moved off of the mirrors (to save hundreds of terabytes of disk space worldwide), so you'll need to update your repo files to point to http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/archive/fedora/linux/updates/.
Again at some point this becomes more work than just doing a fresh install..... :)
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