Broadband???

[Seng Lee]

Hi there..

Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband connection
using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to get it to work
by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in internet connection
wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora. Thanks a milion.

[Markus Huber]

Seng Lee wrote:
> Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband connection
> using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to get it to work
> by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in internet connection
> wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora. Thanks a milion.

DSL? Cable?

[Sam Varshavchik]

Markus Huber writes:
> Seng Lee wrote:
> > Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband connection
> > using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to get it to work
> > by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in internet connection
> > wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora. Thanks a milion.
>
> DSL? Cable?

Why should it matter, if you have a real Internet provider?

The best way to set up broadband is to use a real Internet provider, instead 
of a provider of some proprietary network technology who offers some clunky, 
custom-made hardware, and buggy Windows drivers as the only means of access.

With a real Internet provider, you'll get an ordinary Ethernet port.  You 
can use any network card supported in Linux, plug in an ordinary cable, 
enter the IP address your provider assigned to you, the netmask, the default 
router IP address, and your provider's DNS servers' IP addresses, and you're 
done.

[David Curry]

Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Markus Huber writes:
> > Seng Lee wrote:
> > > Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband connection
> > > using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to get it to work
> > > by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in internet connection
> > > wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora. Thanks a milion.
> >
> > DSL? Cable?
>
> Why should it matter, if you have a real Internet provider?
>
> The best way to set up broadband is to use a real Internet provider, 
> instead of a provider of some proprietary network technology who 
> offers some clunky, custom-made hardware, and buggy Windows drivers as 
> the only means of access.
>
> With a real Internet provider, you'll get an ordinary Ethernet port.  
> You can use any network card supported in Linux, plug in an ordinary 
> cable, enter the IP address your provider assigned to you, the 
> netmask, the default router IP address, and your provider's DNS 
> servers' IP addresses, and you're done.

Seng, I also had similar difficulties establishing a broadband 
connection when first installing Fedora Core, both with FC2 and FC3.  My 
solution to the problem was to re-install and have Anaconda (the 
installer) activate network services on boot up with DHCP enabled.  This 
was a drastic solution, perhaps, but it worked.

If one is more conversant in linuxeese, editing one's init.d file should 
provide another avenue to accomplish the same result without going 
through re-installation. You might consult the documentation available 
on your machine in /usr/share/doc/initscripts-<version-number> (through 
a browser use URL file:///usr/share/doc/initscripts)  and download the 
RedHat Linux 9.0 documentation manuals available at RedHat's website.

[Wolfgang]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 06:00:47 -0800, Seng Lee wrote
> Hi there..
>
> Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband connection
> using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to get it to work
> by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in internet connection
> wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora. Thanks a milion.

[snip]

Get yourself a Router (A D-Link DI-804HV comes to mind). And let the router do
all the logging in and configuration for you. You will only need to setup
Linux for DHCP, and you are up and running. I've been doing that for two years
now, and all is running great. (With both my RHEL3 & WinXP systems)

Wolf
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Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)

[Alex F. Evonosky]

Wolfgang Gill wrote:
> Get yourself a Router (A D-Link DI-804HV comes to mind). And let the router do
> all the logging in and configuration for you.

Thats fine for a simple NAT. For granularity and QoS, packet shaping for 
VoIP (vonage, etc), allowing true stateful packet filtering, port 
forwarding, etc; IPtables is a better solution.

[Wolfgang]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:34:54 -0500, Alex Evonosky wrote
> Wolfgang Gill wrote:
> > Get yourself a Router (A D-Link DI-804HV comes to mind). And let the router do
> > all the logging in and configuration for you.
>
> Thats fine for a simple NAT. For granularity and QoS, packet shaping 
> for VoIP (vonage, etc), allowing true stateful packet filtering, 
> port forwarding, etc; IPtables is a better solution.

That's what I use as well. The features that are not required can be turned
off. I use the software firewall in Linux (Iptables) and I have one on Windows
(Not the windows crap version though) as well. But as for broadband
configuration, I find an external router is much easier to configure. And
since this one also has a 4 port switch, I can connect to other PC's on the
LAN as well. Plus mine logs on for me as well, so, I don't have to write a
script to do that for me.

Wolf
--
Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)

[Robert Storey]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:17:27 -0500
David Curry  wrote:
> Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > Markus Huber writes:
> > > Seng Lee wrote:
> > > > Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband
> >
> > connection>> using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to
> > get it to work>> by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in
> > internet connection>> wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora.
> > Thanks a milion.>
> > > DSL? Cable?
> >
> > Why should it matter, if you have a real Internet provider?

Well, it would certainly matter if he is using pppoe (as opposed to
having a static address). Seng, we need more info - is your setup with a
static address, or is it pppoe? Or for that matter, is it wireless (in
which case wep or wpa comes into play). There's more than one kind of
broadband - we need to know these little details before we can help.

cheers,
Robert

[David Curry]

Robert Storey wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:17:27 -0500
> David Curry  wrote:
> > Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > > Markus Huber writes:
> > > > Seng Lee wrote:
> > > > > Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband
> > >
> > > connection>> using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to
> > > get it to work>> by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in
> > > internet connection>> wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora.
> > > Thanks a milion.>
> > > > DSL? Cable?
> > >
> > > Why should it matter, if you have a real Internet provider?
>
> Well, it would certainly matter if he is using pppoe (as opposed to
> having a static address). Seng, we need more info - is your setup with a
> static address, or is it pppoe? Or for that matter, is it wireless (in
> which case wep or wpa comes into play). There's more than one kind of
> broadband - we need to know these little details before we can help.
>
> cheers,
> Robert

HELLO!!!  As you edited/cropped the earlier messages Mr. Storey, you 
left the impression that I wrote the last item preceeding your text.  MY 
contribution to the thread was in fact deleted in its entirety.  That 
contribution read
> Seng, I also had similar difficulties establishing a broadband 
> connection when first installing Fedora Core, both with FC2 and FC3.  
> My solution to the problem was to re-install and have Anaconda (the 
> installer) activate network services on boot up with DHCP enabled.  
> This was a drastic solution, perhaps, but it worked.
>
> If one is more conversant in linuxeese, editing one's init.d file 
> should provide another avenue to accomplish the same result without 
> going through re-installation. You might consult the documentation 
> available on your machine in 
> /usr/share/doc/initscripts-<version-number> (through a browser use URL 
> file:///usr/share/doc/initscripts)  and download the RedHat Linux 9.0 
> documentation manuals available at RedHat's website.

I'll thank you to avoid misrepresentation of my statements!  They may be 
dumb or wrong and if so I accept responsibility for those shortcomings, 
but I will not sit still for having statements by others attributed to 
me or having my statements misrepresented.

[Kumara Jayaweera]

it may be a mistake. pls take it easy, it is a losson for a man like me who
is still new to list
Mohan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Curry" 
To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" 
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Broadband???
> Robert Storey wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 11:17:27 -0500
> > David Curry  wrote:
> > > Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > > > Markus Huber writes:
> > > > > Seng Lee wrote:
> > > > > > Can someone pls tell / teach me how to setup my broadband
> > > >
> > > > connection>> using GNOME ( Fedora Core 3 ) because i can't seem to
> > > > get it to work>> by just configuring it with GNOME's built-in
> > > > internet connection>> wizard.... btw i'm a newbie with Linux/Fedora.
> > > > Thanks a milion.>
> > > > > DSL? Cable?
> > > >
> > > > Why should it matter, if you have a real Internet provider?
> >
> > Well, it would certainly matter if he is using pppoe (as opposed to
> > having a static address). Seng, we need more info - is your setup with a
> > static address, or is it pppoe? Or for that matter, is it wireless (in
> > which case wep or wpa comes into play). There's more than one kind of
> > broadband - we need to know these little details before we can help.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Robert
>
> HELLO!!!  As you edited/cropped the earlier messages Mr. Storey, you
> left the impression that I wrote the last item preceeding your text.  MY
> contribution to the thread was in fact deleted in its entirety.  That
> contribution read
> > Seng, I also had similar difficulties establishing a broadband
> > connection when first installing Fedora Core, both with FC2 and FC3.
> > My solution to the problem was to re-install and have Anaconda (the
> > installer) activate network services on boot up with DHCP enabled.
> > This was a drastic solution, perhaps, but it worked.
> >
> > If one is more conversant in linuxeese, editing one's init.d file
> > should provide another avenue to accomplish the same result without
> > going through re-installation. You might consult the documentation
> > available on your machine in
> > /usr/share/doc/initscripts-<version-number> (through a browser use URL
> > file:///usr/share/doc/initscripts)  and download the RedHat Linux 9.0
> > documentation manuals available at RedHat's website.
>
> I'll thank you to avoid misrepresentation of my statements!  They may be
> dumb or wrong and if so I accept responsibility for those shortcomings,
> but I will not sit still for having statements by others attributed to
> me or having my statements misrepresented.
>
> --
> fedora-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

[Chuck Sterling]

Wolfgang Gill wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:34:54 -0500, Alex Evonosky wrote
> > Wolfgang Gill wrote:
> > > Get yourself a Router (A D-Link DI-804HV comes to mind). And let the router do
> > > all the logging in and configuration for you.
> >
> > Thats fine for a simple NAT. For granularity and QoS, packet shaping 
> > for VoIP (vonage, etc), allowing true stateful packet filtering, 
> > port forwarding, etc; IPtables is a better solution.
>
> That's what I use as well. The features that are not required can be turned
> off. I use the software firewall in Linux (Iptables) and I have one on Windows
> (Not the windows crap version though) as well. But as for broadband
> configuration, I find an external router is much easier to configure. And
> since this one also has a 4 port switch, I can connect to other PC's on the
> LAN as well. Plus mine logs on for me as well, so, I don't have to write a
> script to do that for me.
> Wolf
>
> Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)

I'm going to hijack this thread for a moment since it seems pertinent to 
a problem I'm having. If this is out of line, please feel free to flame 
or ignore me as suits the situation.

I have a DSL connection through QWest and a local ISP. Setting up the 
ActionTEC DSL modem using PPP0A and DHCP was trivial with Windows, as 
was the Linksys WRT54G four-port switch. Fairly painless other than the 
wireless, which I finally resolved to my satisfaction.

You may have noticed this is being posted from a WinXP system; this is 
because under FC3, installed with the DSL active, I can do simple 
network things like ping to, say, google or to my workplace, but cannot 
get a browser (firefox as delivered) or up2date or yum to work. I should 
have saved my routing table and other items before posting this, and 
presented them here for review, but did not think of it in time. I will 
boot up FC3 and grab that info and post it as a reply to this note.

I'm a bit confused and could use some help...

Be back soon.
Chuck Sterling

[Chuck Sterling]

Chuck Sterling wrote:
> Wolfgang Gill wrote:
> > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 21:34:54 -0500, Alex Evonosky wrote
> > > Wolfgang Gill wrote:
> > > > Get yourself a Router (A D-Link DI-804HV comes to mind). And let the 
> > > > router do
> > > > all the logging in and configuration for you.
> > >
> > > Thats fine for a simple NAT. For granularity and QoS, packet shaping 
> > > for VoIP (vonage, etc), allowing true stateful packet filtering, port 
> > > forwarding, etc; IPtables is a better solution.
> >
> > That's what I use as well. The features that are not required can be 
> > turned
> > off. I use the software firewall in Linux (Iptables) and I have one on 
> > Windows
> > (Not the windows crap version though) as well. But as for broadband
> > configuration, I find an external router is much easier to configure. And
> > since this one also has a 4 port switch, I can connect to other PC's 
> > on the
> > LAN as well. Plus mine logs on for me as well, so, I don't have to 
> > write a
> > script to do that for me.
> > Wolf
> >
> > Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org)
>
> I'm going to hijack this thread for a moment since it seems pertinent to 
> a problem I'm having. If this is out of line, please feel free to flame 
> or ignore me as suits the situation.
>
> I have a DSL connection through QWest and a local ISP. Setting up the 
> ActionTEC DSL modem using PPP0A and DHCP was trivial with Windows, as 
> was the Linksys WRT54G four-port switch. Fairly painless other than the 
> wireless, which I finally resolved to my satisfaction.
>
> You may have noticed this is being posted from a WinXP system; this is 
> because under FC3, installed with the DSL active, I can do simple 
> network things like ping to, say, google or to my workplace, but cannot 
> get a browser (firefox as delivered) or up2date or yum to work. I should 
> have saved my routing table and other items before posting this, and 
> presented them here for review, but did not think of it in time. I will 
> boot up FC3 and grab that info and post it as a reply to this note.
>
> I'm a bit confused and could use some help...
>
> Be back soon.
> Chuck Sterling

Well then, never mind. Upon restarting FC3 I found everything working. 
It's possible, likely, that I was mistaken about the browsers not 
working. In the case of up2date and yum I'm fairly sure that I just did 
not wait long enough for anything to start displaying before giving up. 
There are, if you do a full install, something like 720 updates to 
install, and I suspect that there was preliminary processing going on 
before progress was displayed. I got impatient. This evening I walked 
away for maybe 20 minutes and found yum doing its thing when I returned. 
I have not configured the news and mail clients yet, so am still posting 
from WinXP.

Thanks if you've given this "problem" some thought; no fix needed now.

Best regards,
Chuck Sterling