I am using Fedora 19 on older hardware, and about half the time systemd freezes on boot. Typically the console messaging is pointing at Network Manager but occasionally kdm or gdm. I can switch to another console and log in and network is up and I can enter X.
Any ideas how to debug this?
Thanks
Generally, "Starting Network Manager".
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 11/08/2013 04:25 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
Any ideas how to debug this?
When this happens, what is the very last message on the main screen?
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On 11/08/2013 04:34 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
Generally, "Starting Network Manager".
Thanx. The reason I ask is that I've seen things like this pop up before on web forums, and sometimes the last line quoted ends with [OK] meaning, of course, that whatever starts *next* is what's causing the hangup, and the problem becomes figuring out what that is. Now, at least, we've got that out of the way.
I will double check the status, but I don't believe one is printed. I checked /var/log/messages And the is a message about being on IPv6 set 4 of 5. but ip addr show lists both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 11/08/2013 04:34 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
Generally, "Starting Network Manager".
Thanx. The reason I ask is that I've seen things like this pop up before on web forums, and sometimes the last line quoted ends with [OK] meaning, of course, that whatever starts *next* is what's causing the hangup, and the problem becomes figuring out what that is. Now, at least, we've got that out of the way.
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On 11/08/2013 04:49 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
I will double check the status, but I don't believe one is printed. I checked /var/log/messages And the is a message about being on IPv6 set 4 of 5. but ip addr show lists both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.
Generally, when you're booting, you'll see either [OK] or [Failed] at the end of each line as the various services start. If it hangs without either, that's probably where the trouble is.
For some reason it never registered that the "OK" is on the left now. There is an "OK" after network manager, but the behavior seems different after the latest updates. I wonder if its a GDM vs KDM issue. KDM seems to start earlier in the boot process than GDM. GDM does seem more reliable.
On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 11/08/2013 04:49 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote:
I will double check the status, but I don't believe one is printed. I checked /var/log/messages And the is a message about being on IPv6 set 4 of 5. but ip addr show lists both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses.
Generally, when you're booting, you'll see either [OK] or [Failed] at the end of each line as the various services start. If it hangs without either, that's probably where the trouble is.
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Mark Bidewell wrote:
I am using Fedora 19 on older hardware, and about half the time systemd freezes on boot. Typically the console messaging is pointing at Network Manager but occasionally kdm or gdm. I can switch to another console and log in and network is up and I can enter X.
Any ideas how to debug this?
You might be hitting this, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967521
-- Rex
Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Mark Bidewell wrote:
I am using Fedora 19 on older hardware, and about half the time systemd freezes on boot. Typically the console messaging is pointing at Network Manager but occasionally kdm or gdm. I can switch to another console and log in and network is up and I can enter X.
Any ideas how to debug this?
You might be hitting this, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967521
Or possibly this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1013867
Ron
Ron Yorston wrote:
Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Mark Bidewell wrote:
I am using Fedora 19 on older hardware, and about half the time systemd freezes on boot. Typically the console messaging is pointing at Network Manager but occasionally kdm or gdm. I can switch to another console and log in and network is up and I can enter X.
Any ideas how to debug this?
You might be hitting this, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967521
Or possibly this:
Probably the same problem, slower boots causing service timeouts all over.
-- rex
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Ron Yorston wrote:
Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Mark Bidewell wrote:
I am using Fedora 19 on older hardware, and about half the time systemd freezes on boot. Typically the console messaging is pointing at
Network
Manager but occasionally kdm or gdm. I can switch to another console and log in and network is up and I can enter X.
Any ideas how to debug this?
You might be hitting this, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=967521
Or possibly this:
Probably the same problem, slower boots causing service timeouts all over.
-- rex
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Thanks do you know if any progress is being made on the performance issues?
Mark Bidewell wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Probably the same problem, slower boots causing service timeouts all over.
Thanks do you know if any progress is being made on the performance issues?
Yes, (generally) tracked here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006386
-- Rex
Am 10.11.2013 15:44, schrieb Rex Dieter:
Mark Bidewell wrote:
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Probably the same problem, slower boots causing service timeouts all over.
Thanks do you know if any progress is being made on the performance issues?
Yes, (generally) tracked here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1006386
Thanks, that is probably what struck me when writing this message: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-October/441928.html which was left unanswered (perhaps due to not pointing out clearly enaugh what the problem was). KP
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