F36 kernel (packaging) problems?

[Adrian Sevcenco]

Hi! I have a very strange situation after i updated my system to fedora 36:
the new 5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64 does not boot or at least cannot start my monitor (i get on the monitor "no signal received")
while the identical fedora 35 one worrks 5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64

having an nvidia card, i checked that i have kmods for both kernels
root@hal: entries # rpm -qa | grep kmod-nvidia
akmod-nvidia-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64

and my GRUB_CMD_LINE looks like this:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi='Windows 2013' acpi_enforce_resources=lax iommu=soft iomem=relaxed quiet mitigations=off 
libahci.ignore_sss=1 root=/dev/md1 rootfstype=ext4 selinux=0 rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 rd.auto rd.md=1 rd.dm=1 
rd.lvm=0 rd.luks=0 rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32n KEYTABLE=us LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau 
modprobe.blacklist=nouveau"

any idea why f36 kernel would not work and how can i troubleshoot this?

Thanks a lot!
Adrian

[John Pilkington]

On 26/05/2022 07:56, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> Hi! I have a very strange situation after i updated my system to fedora 36:
> the new 5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64 does not boot or at least cannot start my 
> monitor (i get on the monitor "no signal received")
> while the identical fedora 35 one worrks 5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64
>
> having an nvidia card, i checked that i have kmods for both kernels
> root@hal: entries # rpm -qa | grep kmod-nvidia
> akmod-nvidia-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
>
> and my GRUB_CMD_LINE looks like this:
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi='Windows 2013' acpi_enforce_resources=lax 
> iommu=soft iomem=relaxed quiet mitigations=off libahci.ignore_sss=1 
> root=/dev/md1 rootfstype=ext4 selinux=0 rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 
> rd.auto rd.md=1 rd.dm=1 rd.lvm=0 rd.luks=0 rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32n 
> KEYTABLE=us LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau 
> modprobe.blacklist=nouveau"
>
> any idea why f36 kernel would not work and how can i troubleshoot this?
>
> Thanks a lot!
> Adrian

There was a similar thread earlier this month.  Try depmod, or dnf 
reinstall the nvidia packages.

John P

[Adrian Sevcenco]

On 26.05.2022 10:43, John Pilkington wrote:
> On 26/05/2022 07:56, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> > Hi! I have a very strange situation after i updated my system to fedora 36:
> > the new 5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64 does not boot or at least cannot start my monitor (i get on the monitor "no signal 
> > received")
> > while the identical fedora 35 one worrks 5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64
> >
> > having an nvidia card, i checked that i have kmods for both kernels
> > root@hal: entries # rpm -qa | grep kmod-nvidia
> > akmod-nvidia-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> >
> > and my GRUB_CMD_LINE looks like this:
> > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi='Windows 2013' acpi_enforce_resources=lax iommu=soft iomem=relaxed quiet mitigations=off 
> > libahci.ignore_sss=1 root=/dev/md1 rootfstype=ext4 selinux=0 rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 rd.auto rd.md=1 rd.dm=1 
> > rd.lvm=0 rd.luks=0 rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32n KEYTABLE=us LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau 
> > modprobe.blacklist=nouveau"
> >
> > any idea why f36 kernel would not work and how can i troubleshoot this?
> >
> > Thanks a lot!
> > Adrian
>
> There was a similar thread earlier this month.  Try depmod, or dnf reinstall the nvidia packages.

thanks a lot! i'm not sure if "reinstall nvidia packages" meant the exact words or just rebuilding (with reinstalling) 
the kmod (generated by akmod) ... but it did not worked .. (including any version of depmod command)

i even tried to give up nvidia drivers (and just use nouveau) but plasma crashes in a loop and does not start at all
horrendous experience especially that i do not know what i will be doing in the future because i cannot stay with the 
f35 kernel...

Thanks!
Adrian

[Barry]

> On 27 May 2022, at 08:25, Adrian Sevcenco  wrote:
>
> On 26.05.2022 10:43, John Pilkington wrote:
> > > On 26/05/2022 07:56, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> > > Hi! I have a very strange situation after i updated my system to fedora 36:
> > > the new 5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64 does not boot or at least cannot start my monitor (i get on the monitor "no signal received")
> > > while the identical fedora 35 one worrks 5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64
> > >
> > > having an nvidia card, i checked that i have kmods for both kernels
> > > root@hal: entries # rpm -qa | grep kmod-nvidia
> > > akmod-nvidia-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > >
> > > and my GRUB_CMD_LINE looks like this:
> > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi='Windows 2013' acpi_enforce_resources=lax iommu=soft iomem=relaxed quiet mitigations=off libahci.ignore_sss=1 root=/dev/md1 rootfstype=ext4 selinux=0 rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 rd.auto rd.md=1 rd.dm=1 rd.lvm=0 rd.luks=0 rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32n KEYTABLE=us LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau"
> > >
> > > any idea why f36 kernel would not work and how can i troubleshoot this?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot!
> > > Adrian
> >
> > There was a similar thread earlier this month.  Try depmod, or dnf reinstall the nvidia packages.
>
> thanks a lot! i'm not sure if "reinstall nvidia packages" meant the exact words or just rebuilding (with reinstalling) the kmod (generated by akmod) ... but it did not worked .. (including any version of depmod command)
>
> i even tried to give up nvidia drivers (and just use nouveau) but plasma crashes in a loop and does not start at all
> horrendous experience especially that i do not know what i will be doing in the future because i cannot stay with the f35 kernel...

See https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs it has the issue listed and the fix.
I hit the same issue and the listed depmod command fixed it for me.

Reinstall does not work and is not expected to.

Barry
> Thanks!
> Adrian
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[John Pilkington]

On 27/05/2022 09:13, Barry wrote:
> > On 27 May 2022, at 08:25, Adrian Sevcenco  wrote:
> >
> > On 26.05.2022 10:43, John Pilkington wrote:
> > > On 26/05/2022 07:56, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> > > > Hi! I have a very strange situation after i updated my system to 
> > > > fedora 36:
> > > > the new 5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64 does not boot or at least cannot 
> > > > start my monitor (i get on the monitor "no signal received")
> > > > while the identical fedora 35 one worrks 5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64
> > > >
> > > > having an nvidia card, i checked that i have kmods for both kernels
> > > > root@hal: entries # rpm -qa | grep kmod-nvidia
> > > > akmod-nvidia-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > >
> > > > and my GRUB_CMD_LINE looks like this:
> > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi='Windows 2013' 
> > > > acpi_enforce_resources=lax iommu=soft iomem=relaxed quiet 
> > > > mitigations=off libahci.ignore_sss=1 root=/dev/md1 rootfstype=ext4 
> > > > selinux=0 rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 rd.auto rd.md=1 rd.dm=1 
> > > > rd.lvm=0 rd.luks=0 rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32n KEYTABLE=us 
> > > > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau"
> > > >
> > > > any idea why f36 kernel would not work and how can i troubleshoot this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a lot!
> > > > Adrian
> > >
> > > There was a similar thread earlier this month.  Try depmod, or dnf 
> > > reinstall the nvidia packages.
> >
> > thanks a lot! i'm not sure if "reinstall nvidia packages" meant the 
> > exact words or just rebuilding (with reinstalling) the kmod (generated 
> > by akmod) ... but it did not worked .. (including any version of 
> > depmod command)
> >
> > i even tried to give up nvidia drivers (and just use nouveau) but 
> > plasma crashes in a loop and does not start at all
> > horrendous experience especially that i do not know what i will be 
> > doing in the future because i cannot stay with the f35 kernel...
>
> See https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs 
> https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs it has the issue listed and the fix.
> I hit the same issue and the listed depmod command fixed it for me.
>
> Reinstall does not work and is not expected to.
>
> Barry
> > Thanks!
> > Adrian

I started and saved this draft before Barry's reply above.  I hadn't 
then found the rpmfusion 'CommonBugs' page or the BZ.  I'll post this 
because in one case depmod didn't work for me and the reinstall 
apparently did...

I had assumed that you were using the rpmfusion packages and that 
nouveau was running X11.

I have only F35 and expect to stay with that for some months.  My 
"reinstall" was based on https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA, and for 
recent cards (Current GeForce/Quadro/Tesla) the equivalent would probably be

{{{

sudo dnf reinstall xorg-x11-drv-nvidia  akmod-nvidia
sudo dnf reinstall xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda
sudo systemctl reboot

}}}

Good luck!

John

[Barry]

> On 27 May 2022, at 11:51, John Pilkington  wrote:
>
> On 27/05/2022 09:13, Barry wrote:
> > > > On 27 May 2022, at 08:25, Adrian Sevcenco  wrote:
> > >
> > > On 26.05.2022 10:43, John Pilkington wrote:
> > > > On 26/05/2022 07:56, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> > > > > Hi! I have a very strange situation after i updated my system to fedora 36:
> > > > > the new 5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64 does not boot or at least cannot start my monitor (i get on the monitor "no signal received")
> > > > > while the identical fedora 35 one worrks 5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64
> > > > >
> > > > > having an nvidia card, i checked that i have kmods for both kernels
> > > > > root@hal: entries # rpm -qa | grep kmod-nvidia
> > > > > akmod-nvidia-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > > > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-200.fc35.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > > > kmod-nvidia-5.17.9-300.fc36.x86_64-515.43.04-1.fc36.x86_64
> > > > >
> > > > > and my GRUB_CMD_LINE looks like this:
> > > > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi='Windows 2013' acpi_enforce_resources=lax iommu=soft iomem=relaxed quiet mitigations=off libahci.ignore_sss=1 root=/dev/md1 rootfstype=ext4 selinux=0 rd.plymouth=0 plymouth.enable=0 rd.auto rd.md=1 rd.dm=1 rd.lvm=0 rd.luks=0 rd.vconsole.font=ter-v32n KEYTABLE=us LANG=en_US.UTF-8 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau"
> > > > >
> > > > > any idea why f36 kernel would not work and how can i troubleshoot this?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a lot!
> > > > > Adrian
> > > >
> > > > There was a similar thread earlier this month.  Try depmod, or dnf reinstall the nvidia packages.
> > >
> > > thanks a lot! i'm not sure if "reinstall nvidia packages" meant the exact words or just rebuilding (with reinstalling) the kmod (generated by akmod) ... but it did not worked .. (including any version of depmod command)
> > >
> > > i even tried to give up nvidia drivers (and just use nouveau) but plasma crashes in a loop and does not start at all
> > > horrendous experience especially that i do not know what i will be doing in the future because i cannot stay with the f35 kernel...
> >
> > See https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs it has the issue listed and the fix.
> > I hit the same issue and the listed depmod command fixed it for me.
> > Reinstall does not work and is not expected to.
> > Barry
> > > Thanks!
> > > Adrian
>
> I started and saved this draft before Barry's reply above.  I hadn't then found the rpmfusion 'CommonBugs' page or the BZ.  I'll post this because in one case depmod didn't work for me and the reinstall apparently did...

What I found was that because the nvidia modules exist akmod does not attempt to build them on system-upgrade.
The rpmfusion folks discussed this a bit on rpmfusion-devel and are looking at why this happens to some people, but not all.

Barry
> I had assumed that you were using the rpmfusion packages and that nouveau was running X11.
>
> I have only F35 and expect to stay with that for some months.  My "reinstall" was based on https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA, and for recent cards (Current GeForce/Quadro/Tesla) the equivalent would probably be
>
> {{{
>
> sudo dnf reinstall xorg-x11-drv-nvidia  akmod-nvidia
> sudo dnf reinstall xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda
> sudo systemctl reboot
>
> }}}
>
> Good luck!
>
> John
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