I'm using Fedora Core 2 with kde 3.3.0-1.0.2.kde and my gkrellm process monitor is showing four users, except that this is a stand-alone and not connected to any network [except the internet], and I'm the only user.
So how do I find out what these other processes are, and then how do I kill them please?
Sharon.
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 04:09:31PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
I'm using Fedora Core 2 with kde 3.3.0-1.0.2.kde and my gkrellm process monitor is showing four users, except that this is a stand-alone and not connected to any network [except the internet], and I'm the only user. So how do I find out what these other processes are, and then how do I kill them please?
It's probably you, four times.
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 11:09, Sharon Kimble wrote:
I'm using Fedora Core 2 with kde 3.3.0-1.0.2.kde and my gkrellm process monitor is showing four users, except that this is a stand-alone and not connected to any network [except the internet], and I'm the only user.
So how do I find out what these other processes are, and then how do I kill them please?
Sharon.
Sharon,
Try running w.
Bob...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Randy Kelsoe wrote:
To kill a user, you can try killall <username>. I have not tried that with linux, but it worked for a unix machine I had.
i'd be surprised if that worked, since killall deals with processes that are running any of the specified *commands* you provide, not based on the username you provide. unless there's some weird option i've never seen before.
rday
Sharon Kimble wrote:
I'm using Fedora Core 2 with kde 3.3.0-1.0.2.kde and my gkrellm process monitor is showing four users, except that this is a stand-alone and not connected to any network [except the internet], and I'm the only user.
So how do I find out what these other processes are, and then how do I kill them please?
You probably have some terminal windows open. Type 'w' at a command prompt to see who is logged in and what they are running. The FROM field will tell you where the user is logged in from (:0.0 is on the local display).
To kill a user, you can try killall <username>. I have not tried that with linux, but it worked for a unix machine I had.
On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 11:20, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Randy Kelsoe wrote:
To kill a user, you can try killall <username>. I have not tried that with linux, but it worked for a unix machine I had.
i'd be surprised if that worked, since killall deals with processes that are running any of the specified *commands* you provide, not based on the username you provide. unless there's some weird option i've never seen before.
rday
skill -u <username> might work, per the man page.
Bob...
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:39:45AM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
now that's a useful command to know, and annoyingly hard to run across since it's not mentioned on either the kill or killall man page (at least, AFAICT).
It's hard for older man pages to reference all newer programs with similar functionality....
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:23:53AM -0500, Randy Kelsoe wrote:
To kill a user, you can try killall <username>. I have not tried that with linux, but it worked for a unix machine I had.
What flavor of Unix? Be careful running this command at random on unknown *nix varieties -- on Solaris, for example, it kills *all* processess...
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 10:23:53AM -0500, Randy Kelsoe wrote:
To kill a user, you can try killall <username>. I have not tried that with linux, but it worked for a unix machine I had.
What flavor of Unix? Be careful running this command at random on unknown *nix varieties -- on Solaris, for example, it kills *all* processess...
This worked with SGI IRIX. I had a user login and play a prank on me by playing a sound file in a loop. Somehow he logged in with tcsh and I was not able to kill the process he was using. I tried a 'killall username' (or maybe a kill -9 username) and that got rid of him.
Sharon Kimble wrote:
I'm using Fedora Core 2 with kde 3.3.0-1.0.2.kde and my gkrellm process monitor is showing four users, except that this is a stand-alone and not connected to any network [except the internet], and I'm the only user.
So how do I find out what these other processes are, and then how do I kill them please?
Use "top" or "w" to see who these users are. Remember, *nix is inherently multi-user and these "extra users" may actually be system processes; e.g. the sendmail daemon, printer daemon, etc.
Sharon Kimble wrote:
I'm using Fedora Core 2 with kde 3.3.0-1.0.2.kde and my gkrellm process monitor is showing four users, except that this is a stand-alone and not connected to any network [except the internet], and I'm the only user.
So how do I find out what these other processes are, and then how do I kill them please?
Sharon.
Sharon:
I have experienced the same symptoms you describe, although I don't see it as often now. IIRC when I logged out as my local user, and logged in as root, I would regularly see two processes related to bonobo showing up. I wasn't able to kill them without rebooting -- which was annoying, as was the alternative: trying to put up with an incorrect number of users on my GKrellm monitor! There was an update related to bonobo about a week or so ago that seemed to have helped the situation.
Try logging out as your user, and log back in as root. Do a ps -ef and see what processes are showing up as the logged out user.
See if my postings related to what I describe are what you are seeing yourself. There may be some bug happening that we should put in bugzilla. I never saw this happening in FC1.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=108359807117526&w=2
and this post asking if the cause may be related to X'ing out of the terminal rather than 'exiting' out of the terminal:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=109088693016156&w=2
and another user experiencing similar symptoms: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=109283002128882&w=2
Clint
Clint Harshaw wrote:
Sharon Kimble wrote:
I'm using Fedora Core 2 with kde 3.3.0-1.0.2.kde and my gkrellm process monitor is showing four users, except that this is a stand-alone and not connected to any network [except the internet], and I'm the only user.
So how do I find out what these other processes are, and then how do I kill them please?
Sharon.
Sharon:
I have experienced the same symptoms you describe, although I don't see it as often now. IIRC when I logged out as my local user, and logged in as root, I would regularly see two processes related to bonobo showing up. I wasn't able to kill them without rebooting -- which was annoying, as was the alternative: trying to put up with an incorrect number of users on my GKrellm monitor! There was an update related to bonobo about a week or so ago that seemed to have helped the situation.
Try logging out as your user, and log back in as root. Do a ps -ef and see what processes are showing up as the logged out user.
See if my postings related to what I describe are what you are seeing yourself. There may be some bug happening that we should put in bugzilla. I never saw this happening in FC1.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=108359807117526&w=2
and this post asking if the cause may be related to X'ing out of the terminal rather than 'exiting' out of the terminal:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=109088693016156&w=2
and another user experiencing similar symptoms: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=109283002128882&w=2
Clint
Clint.
Following up on this and I've now got 7 extra users, and they're all me! I did what you suggested and the result is here;- ------------------------- [root@gads root]# ps ef PID TTY STAT TIME COMMAND 5161 pts/83 S 0:00 /bin/bash SSH_AGENT_PID=4785 DM_CONTROL=/var/run/xdmc 5185 pts/83 R 0:00 _ ps ef KDE_MULTIHEAD=false SSH_AGENT_PID=4785 HOST 3156 tty6 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty6 SELINUX_INIT=YES PATH=/usr/local 3155 tty5 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty5 SELINUX_INIT=YES PATH=/usr/local 3141 tty4 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty4 SELINUX_INIT=YES PATH=/usr/local 3110 tty3 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty3 SELINUX_INIT=YES PATH=/usr/local 3079 tty2 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty2 SELINUX_INIT=YES PATH=/usr/local 3078 tty1 S 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tty1 SELINUX_INIT=YES PATH=/usr/local [root@gads root]# ----------------------------------- [please make alowances for text wrapping!]
'top' shows one zombie process which is [from 'ps aux'] ---------------- boztu 9334 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z 16:51 0:00 [netstat] <defunc ---------------------------
and then i did the following ;- ------------------------------- gads:~$ kill pid 9334 bash: kill: pid: no such pid gads:~$ users boztu boztu boztu boztu boztu boztu boztu boztu boztu boztu gads:~$ finger boztu Login: boztu Name: (null) Directory: /home/boztu Shell: /bin/bash On since Thu Sep 9 16:47 (BST) on pts/82 10 minutes 46 seconds idle On since Thu Sep 9 16:52 (BST) on pts/83 5 minutes 13 seconds idle (messages off) On since Thu Sep 9 16:54 (BST) on pts/85 3 minutes 47 seconds idle (messages off) On since Thu Sep 9 16:54 (BST) on pts/86 (messages off) No mail. No Plan. ----------------------------------
and as I closed every bash down, it all dropped down to '7 users' again! Odd!
Anyone got any ideas how to solve it without rebooting please?
Sharon.
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