Have a new system, thought I'd use it to do some testing of FC7. did a clean install, no additional packages other than the defaults.
Two problems.
- the system didn't start to shut down when I hit the power switch
- when I did a shutdown -h the system went through the shutdown process, said "system halted" and waited for me to press the power switch
Thinking perhaps it was the motherboard, I wiped that install and did a clean install of FC6. No problem, shutdown starts when I push the power switch and the machine shuts off automatically.
Wiped the system yet again and did another clean install of FC7. this time the system does actually shutdown automatically when I do a shutdown -h but still no joy on having the shutdown start when I push the power button.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions on what might be going on, and how I can get the "proper" behaviors working.
Cheers,
Mike <<<<<
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 21:27 -0600, Mike Cisar wrote:
Have a new system, thought I’d use it to do some testing of FC7… did a clean install, no additional packages other than the defaults.
Two problems…
- the system didn’t start to shut down when I hit the power switch
Since it worked on FC6 and not 7, this might not affect you, or at least matter. But how long do you hold the power button before deciding it won't shut off?
Probably don't matter, again because it seems to work in 6, but thought I would ask anyway.
Now this is a stupid question, but if it shuts down fine by shutdown -h, then why does it matter if hitting the button works or not? If it don't, pull the plug if it's needed that to shutdown that fast. And that is not the proper way to shut it down anyway, so not like it's important is it?
Just asking, not dogging out for asking or anything :)
Mike Chambers wrote:
Since it worked on FC6 and not 7, this might not affect you, or at least matter. But how long do you hold the power button before deciding it won't shut off?
Holding it down for 30-90 seconds will bypass the BIOS and shut the machine down on most machines. But this does not do a proper shutdown - it is like pulling the plug.
Now this is a stupid question, but if it shuts down fine by shutdown -h, then why does it matter if hitting the button works or not? If it don't, pull the plug if it's needed that to shutdown that fast. And that is not the proper way to shut it down anyway, so not like it's important is it?
You can program the power button to do a proper system shutdown. You can also program it to suspend or hibernate the machine. It can be handy to shut down a machine when no-one is logged in.
Mikkel
Mike Cisar wrote:
Have a new system, thought I’d use it to do some testing of FC7… did a clean install, no additional packages other than the defaults.
Two problems…
the system didn’t start to shut down when I hit the power switch
when I did a shutdown –h the system went through the shutdown
process, said “system halted” and waited for me to press the power switch
Thinking perhaps it was the motherboard, I wiped that install and did a clean install of FC6. No problem, shutdown starts when I push the power switch and the machine shuts off automatically.
Wiped the system yet again and did another clean install of FC7… this time the system does actually shutdown automatically when I do a shutdown –h but still no joy on having the shutdown start when I push the power button.
Anyone have any ideas/suggestions on what might be going on, and how I can get the “proper” behaviors working.
Cheers,
Mike <<<<<
I am not sure if it is the same in F7, but you can in FC6 you can control what happens when you hit the power button from Power Manager. (gnome-power-manager)
Mikkel
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Cisar wrote:
Have a new system, thought I’d use it to do some testing of FC7… did a clean install, no additional packages other than the defaults.
(power button does not shut down the system)
> Mike <<<<<
I am not sure if it is the same in F7, but you can in FC6 you can control what happens when you hit the power button from Power Manager. (gnome-power-manager)
Mikkel
F7 has the default of "ask me" for the power button. It is configurable by going to system/preferences/system/power management. I like the selected defaults for power management because I accidentally powered down on many occasions by out of habit hitting the power button on first getting to the computer. Now I get the shutdown prompt when the power button i pressed. The setting can be set to suspend, hibrnate or shutdown also.
I had to hunt for it prior to posting. The location and menu structure is not intuitive but works and is memorable once the location is found. (Until it is moved again on a rethinking for the menu structure.)
Now for the original posters problem with the power button not functioning as before, not even the prompt. I have no idea if it is helpful to know this configuration option.
Jim
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 19:18:19 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote: [...]
F7 has the default of "ask me" for the power button. It is configurable by going to system/preferences/system/power management. I like the selected defaults for power management because I accidentally powered down on many occasions by out of habit hitting the power button on first getting to the computer. Now I get the shutdown prompt when the power button i pressed. The setting can be set to suspend, hibrnate or shutdown also.
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Thanks, I'm going to look into this :)
I can never get the pc to come out of suspend or hibernate, and the "restart" never fully restarts (it shutdowns, but power stays on, then I must manually press the restart button).
-Thufir
Mike Cisar wrote:
Have a new system, thought I’d use it to do some testing of FC7…
did a
clean install, no additional packages other than the defaults.
(power button does not shut down the system)
>> Mike <<<<<
F7 has the default of "ask me" for the power button. It is configurable by going to system/preferences/system/power management. I like the selected defaults for power management because I accidentally powered down on many occasions by out of habit hitting the power button on first getting to the computer. Now I get the shutdown prompt when the power button i pressed. The setting can be set to suspend, hibrnate or shutdown also.
Thanks Jim, I'll have to take a peek and see if changing this setting "fixes" the situation for us.
We have just the opposite situation from yourself... a whole bunch of servers which in some emergency circumstances must be shut down as fast as possible. Much easier to run in and run a finger down a row of power switches than to mouse to the shutdown button in each.
Cheers,
Mike <<<<<
Mike Cisar wrote:
Thanks Jim, I'll have to take a peek and see if changing this setting "fixes" the situation for us.
We have just the opposite situation from yourself... a whole bunch of servers which in some emergency circumstances must be shut down as fast as possible. Much easier to run in and run a finger down a row of power switches than to mouse to the shutdown button in each.
Cheers,
Mike <<<<<
I hope the option works for you. Since you mentioned the server, I hope there is a cli utility to set this up to work properly.
Jim
On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 19:18 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Mike Cisar wrote:
Have a new system, thought I’d use it to do some testing of FC7… did a clean install, no additional packages other than the defaults.
(power button does not shut down the system)
>> Mike <<<<<
I am not sure if it is the same in F7, but you can in FC6 you can control what happens when you hit the power button from Power Manager. (gnome-power-manager)
Mikkel
F7 has the default of "ask me" for the power button. It is configurable by going to system/preferences/system/power management...
Is this under Gnome? I run KDE, and gnome-power-manager does nothing whatever for me, except to jiggle the icons in the tray briefly. Is there a way to do the same thing under KDE?
Thanks - jon
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 19:18 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
F7 has the default of "ask me" for the power button. It is configurable by going to system/preferences/system/power management...
Is this under Gnome? I run KDE, and gnome-power-manager does nothing whatever for me, except to jiggle the icons in the tray briefly. Is there a way to do the same thing under KDE?
I would think that the 'System > prefrences > System > Power Management' is displayed in either desktop menu structure. I use GNOME so am not sure what menu structure is like in KDE.
Thanks - jon
Jim
On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 23:41 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
On Sun, 2007-06-24 at 19:18 -0400, Jim Cornette wrote:
F7 has the default of "ask me" for the power button. It is configurable by going to system/preferences/system/power management...
Is this under Gnome? I run KDE, and gnome-power-manager does nothing whatever for me, except to jiggle the icons in the tray briefly. Is there a way to do the same thing under KDE?
I would think that the 'System > prefrences > System > Power Management' is displayed in either desktop menu structure. I use GNOME so am not sure what menu structure is like in KDE.
If only...
I assume that "System" refers to an item in the maim choice menu in the system tray. There is, in fact, a "System" item in this menu, but no "preferences" sub item. There is an item "kpowersave", which invokes (reasonably enough) kpowersave.
Here's all I know about it.
$ kpowersave --help Usage: kpowersave [Qt-options] [KDE-options] [options]
KDE Frontend for Power Management, Battery Monitoring and Suspend
An instance of it is running on my system right now, but there's no evidence of it on the monitor.
Thanks - jon
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