The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard!
http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/06/06/vote-for-yum-features-that-you-miss-in-dnf...
The list of missing yum options is both outdated and incomplete. For example, it's missing "includepkgs" (a repository option), for people who need to access specific packages from non-Fedora compatible repos. On the other hand, it includes "deltarpm", although dnf has supported this for a while now.
Sorry for replying out of thread, but I normally use Gmane to reply, and for some reason this thread never showed up there. (Normally there's just a delay, but it's past that point now.)
I'm using version 0.3.11 and the proxy options are not used when update, install, etc.
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Andre Robatino robatino@fedoraproject.org wrote:
The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard!
http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/06/06/vote-for-yum-features-that-you-miss-in-dnf...
The list of missing yum options is both outdated and incomplete. For example, it's missing "includepkgs" (a repository option), for people who need to access specific packages from non-Fedora compatible repos. On the other hand, it includes "deltarpm", although dnf has supported this for a while now.
Sorry for replying out of thread, but I normally use Gmane to reply, and for some reason this thread never showed up there. (Normally there's just a delay, but it's past that point now.)
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On 06/09/2014 04:15 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
The time when DNF will take over from Yum in Fedora is nearing. We're wondering: is there stuff people are still missing from DNF that they have got recently in Yum? Or even something else! We've put together a very short and simple survey. Let your opinion be heard!
http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/06/06/vote-for-yum-features-that-you-miss-in-dnf...
The list of missing yum options is both outdated and incomplete. For example, it's missing "includepkgs" (a repository option), for people who need to access specific packages from non-Fedora compatible repos. On the other hand, it includes "deltarpm", although dnf has supported this for a while now.
Deltarpms are working, but, as far as I can see, need to be manually enabled. If we're going for consistency, deltarpms should be enabled by default if deltarpm is installed.
Jonathan
Jonathan Dieter <jdieter <at> lesbg.com> writes:
The list of missing yum options is both outdated and incomplete. For example, it's missing "includepkgs" (a repository option), for people who need to access specific packages from non-Fedora compatible repos. On the other hand, it includes "deltarpm", although dnf has supported this for a while now.
Deltarpms are working, but, as far as I can see, need to be manually enabled. If we're going for consistency, deltarpms should be enabled by default if deltarpm is installed.
Personally, I agree with this, since they reduce bandwidth for the mirrors (whether they help at the user's end depends on the user's hardware and bandwidth). I also think --best should be the default, since in Rawhide/Branched people need to know about broken deps to deal with them (hiding them isn't good, when a broken dep can prevent 100 packages that need testing from updating), while in stable releases they aren't supposed to happen anyway (hopefully better automation will actually ensure this). But I'm more concerned with things that are completely missing (especially if the survey doesn't include them) than about defaults that users have control over.
On 9. 6. 2014 at 17:12:37, Andre Robatino wrote:
Jonathan Dieter <jdieter <at> lesbg.com> writes:
The list of missing yum options is both outdated and incomplete. For example, it's missing "includepkgs" (a repository option), for people who need to access specific packages from non-Fedora compatible repos.
On
the other hand, it includes "deltarpm", although dnf has supported this for a while now.
Deltarpms are working, but, as far as I can see, need to be manually enabled. If we're going for consistency, deltarpms should be enabled by default if deltarpm is installed.
Personally, I agree with this, since they reduce bandwidth for the mirrors (whether they help at the user's end depends on the user's hardware and bandwidth). I also think --best should be the default, since in Rawhide/Branched people need to know about broken deps to deal with
them
(hiding them isn't good, when a broken dep can prevent 100 packages that need testing from updating), while in stable releases they aren't supposed to happen anyway (hopefully better automation will actually ensure this). But I'm more concerned with things that are completely missing (especially if the survey doesn't include them) than about defaults that users have control over.
In case you have some features you would like us to include, please search bugzilla for the list of (both opened and closed) RFEs. If you don't find the RFE in the list, feel free to open a request so we can track what people actually want.
Your other option is to use the form to let us know what are you missing and what is your use case (don't forget to include the second part, that's actually the more important one).
Thanks Jan
Jan Zelený <jzeleny <at> redhat.com> writes:
In case you have some features you would like us to include, please search bugzilla for the list of (both opened and closed) RFEs. If you don't find the RFE in the list, feel free to open a request so we can track what people actually want.
I already reported the missing includepkgs option as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055910 . But it should still be listed on the survey, otherwise there's no way of knowing how many people need it.
Andre Robatino <robatino <at> fedoraproject.org> writes:
I already reported the missing includepkgs option as https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055910 .
Sorry, that's not my bug, mine was closed as a dupe of this one.
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