Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
Greg Ennis
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Gregory P. Ennis PoMec@pomec.net wrote:
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
Greg Ennis
What clues have dmesg given?
dmesg | tail
or to watch live while you plug it in:
watch 'dmesg | tail'
Just looked up the drive so I note it does not have network capability, looks like a choice of hdmi and usb. Is this correct?
Also, wondering if formatting to FAT16 on your windows system would give you a foot hold on the drive the letting linux format to fs of choice; caveat, I have no Windows systems so Linux file system is a good option for me. According to my limited research the drive is usually just being plugged in and is detected hence the dmesg info request. "lsusb" may reveal something and perhaps ntfs-3g.probe but I am grasping at this point.
-- Fred
On 10/30/2016 04:15 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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I cannot speak for everyone else, but I've purchased WD external HDD's. And I've always just used the "Disks" utility to format-then-re-format them to FAT. Which is easiest when going from ext4 to NTFS and back again. It might take an extremely long time (depending on the speed of your machine) but it's do-able....and makes life a bit less painful in the long run....as FAT32 is recognized "globally" (In the world of IT and computers that is!!) HTH.
EGO II
I would check if you have the ntfs support installed. rpm -qa | grep ntfs
Should have the ntfs-3g installed, probable don't need ntfsprogs, but I use them.
I have used gparted on linux to redo disks on many occassiions dnf install gparted.
Had a student that had a large disk that was somehow formated to mac format, so ended up using gparted to make the disk half mac/ half ntfs so she could save files from both systems and use options that Fat32 don't support.
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Michael D. Setzer II < mikes@kuentos.guam.net> wrote:
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
gparted isn't seeing anything near as I can tell, hence the request for dmesg info... sounds like some background system work is happening but is getting caught up somewhere. I agree with fat16/32 limitations especially since the OP is archiving images which can get rather large. Formatting just seemed easiest as a way to eliminate some possibilities because of fat fs wide acceptance. If it works, then it was a file system issue and if not then most likely a deeper hardware issue. If the former then a matter of installing support for the desired fs or format to one that best suits OP's needs. I am not thinking the latter because a couple articles where the posting OPs' stated they plugged in the drive and the system recognized it including Eddie above; but, technologies change and WD firmware may be conflicting with the OP's system since the are just purchased. At this point it is just conjecture until we get a better picture.
Date: Sunday, October 30, 2016 19:52:55 -0400 From: fred roller fredroller66@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Michael D. Setzer II < mikes@kuentos.guam.net> wrote:
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
gparted isn't seeing anything near as I can tell, hence the request for dmesg info... sounds like some background system work is happening but is getting caught up somewhere. I agree with fat16/32 limitations especially since the OP is archiving images which can get rather large. Formatting just seemed easiest as a way to eliminate some possibilities because of fat fs wide acceptance. If it works, then it was a file system issue and if not then most likely a deeper hardware issue. If the former then a matter of installing support for the desired fs or format to one that best suits OP's needs. I am not thinking the latter because a couple articles where the posting OPs' stated they plugged in the drive and the system recognized it including Eddie above; but, technologies change and WD firmware may be conflicting with the OP's system since the are just purchased. At this point it is just conjecture until we get a better picture.
The 2TB "WD passport" that I have worked "out of the box" on my (centos-6 and -7) systems -- with ntfs-3g installed. If you plan to use them exclusively on linux systems they can be reformatted to ext4, which then lets you (among other things) use rhel/fedora built-in encryption capabilities.
Michael,
Thanks for your help
I have ntfs-3g installed as well as ntfsprogs.
gparted does not recognize the drive
fdisk -l pauses after displaying every other file system on the machine, and then returns the prompt without any notice that it has recognized the WD drive.
lsusb does recognize the drive as : Bus 008 Device 010: ID 1058:259d Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------- I would check if you have the ntfs support installed. rpm -qa | grep ntfs
Should have the ntfs-3g installed, probable don't need ntfsprogs, but I use them.
I have used gparted on linux to redo disks on many occassiions dnf install gparted.
Had a student that had a large disk that was somehow formated to mac format, so ended up using gparted to make the disk half mac/ half ntfs so she could save files from both systems and use options that Fat32 don't support.
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List <users@lists.fedoraproject.or g> Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Michael D. Setzer II <mikes@kuentos.gu am.net> wrote:
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
gparted isn't seeing anything near as I can tell, hence the request for dmesg info... sounds like some background system work is happening but is getting caught up somewhere. I agree with fat16/32 limitations especially since the OP is archiving images which can get rather large. Formatting just seemed easiest as a way to eliminate some possibilities because of fat fs wide acceptance. If it works, then it was a file system issue and if not then most likely a deeper hardware issue. If the former then a matter of installing support for the desired fs or format to one that best suits OP's needs. I am not thinking the latter because a couple articles where the posting OPs' stated they plugged in the drive and the system recognized it including Eddie above; but, technologies change and WD firmware may be conflicting with the OP's system since the are just purchased. At this point it is just conjecture until we get a better picture. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
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Fred,
The drive is a 3T drive
Here is the end of dmesg :
[22032.142905] usb 8-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=259d [22032.142909] usb 8-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=1 [22032.142912] usb 8-1.3: Product: My Passport 259D [22032.142914] usb 8-1.3: Manufacturer: Western Digital [22032.142916] usb 8-1.3: SerialNumber: 575832314437363658383146 [22032.144659] usb-storage 8-1.3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [22032.145363] scsi host12: usb-storage 8-1.3:1.0 [22033.148475] scsi 12:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD My Passport 259D 1012 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6 [22033.149280] scsi 12:0:0:1: Enclosure WD SES Device 1012 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6 [22033.162543] sd 12:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0 [22033.163005] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached Enclosure device [22033.163868] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22033.165424] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 13 [22034.163430] ....................................... [22106.673511] usb 8-1.3: reset high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd [22108.037081] ........................not responding... [22133.734712] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). [22133.735030] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] 5860466688 512-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.73 TiB) [22133.735038] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] 4096-byte physical blocks [22133.735604] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off [22133.735608] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Mode Sense: 53 00 10 08 [22133.736133] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] No Caching mode page found [22133.736137] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Assuming drive cache: write through [22133.737857] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22134.737714] ....................................................................... ...................not responding... [22233.896939] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16).
Date: Sunday, October 30, 2016 19:52:55 -0400 From: fred roller fredroller66@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Michael D. Setzer II < mikes@kuentos.guam.net> wrote:
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
gparted isn't seeing anything near as I can tell, hence the request for dmesg info... sounds like some background system work is happening but is getting caught up somewhere. I agree with fat16/32 limitations especially since the OP is archiving images which can get rather large. Formatting just seemed easiest as a way to eliminate some possibilities because of fat fs wide acceptance. If it works, then it was a file system issue and if not then most likely a deeper hardware issue. If the former then a matter of installing support for the desired fs or format to one that best suits OP's needs. I am not thinking the latter because a couple articles where the posting OPs' stated they plugged in the drive and the system recognized it including Eddie above; but, technologies change and WD firmware may be conflicting with the OP's system since the are just purchased. At this point it is just conjecture until we get a better picture.
The 2TB "WD passport" that I have worked "out of the box" on my (centos-6 and -7) systems -- with ntfs-3g installed. If you plan to use them exclusively on linux systems they can be reformatted to ext4, which then lets you (among other things) use rhel/fedora built-in encryption capabilities.
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Richard,
That is exactly what I want to do, but so far I have not been able to get it mounted in F24. I hope to be able to connect the other two to Centos 7.2 machines.
Greg
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On 10/30/2016 06:45 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Michael,
Thanks for your help
I have ntfs-3g installed as well as ntfsprogs.
gparted does not recognize the drive
fdisk -l pauses after displaying every other file system on the machine, and then returns the prompt without any notice that it has recognized the WD drive.
lsusb does recognize the drive as : Bus 008 Device 010: ID 1058:259d Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
I would check if you have the ntfs support installed. rpm -qa | grep ntfs
Should have the ntfs-3g installed, probable don't need ntfsprogs, but I use them.
I have used gparted on linux to redo disks on many occassiions dnf install gparted.
Had a student that had a large disk that was somehow formated to mac format, so ended up using gparted to make the disk half mac/ half ntfs so she could save files from both systems and use options that Fat32 don't support.
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List <users@lists.fedoraproject.or g> Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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Greg, run ls -1 /dev/sd*
and see if all drives (and their partitions), including your 3DB WD disk, are listed.
[22133.737857] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22134.737714] ....................................................................... ...................not responding...
System is detecting... you are being assigned sdd in your sequence but the system is choking on the size. And; educated guess here, from the sounds of things while Redhat et. al. can handle into the 20Tb+ range for lvm, raid, etc. seems to some extent limited to 2Tb according to this[1] and similar articles eluding to a 2Tb cap per partition. My suspension is the 3Tb is not being handled... curious if fdisk can access sdd and re-partition the drive into smaller "byte" size [pardon the pun ;)] partitions of <2Tb...
Anyone with a firmer grasp is free to tag in.
[1] "I'm using the installer. I have 2 SAS HDs with 600 GB RAID1 (for the OS) and 4 HDs with 3 TB RAID5, that makes a virtial disk with 8.5 TB for storage, but a only can create a partition with 2 TB. When I try to use a larger size, I have a warning that the size has been exceeded." https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/7039/maximum-disk-size-for-fedora-16/
On 10/30/2016 08:31 PM, fred roller wrote:
[22133.737857] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22134.737714] ....................................................................... ...................not responding...
System is detecting... you are being assigned sdd in your sequence but the system is choking on the size. And; educated guess here, from the sounds of things while Redhat et. al. can handle into the 20Tb+ range for lvm, raid, etc. seems to some extent limited to 2Tb according to this[1] and similar articles eluding to a 2Tb cap per partition. My suspension is the 3Tb is not being handled... curious if fdisk can access sdd and re-partition the drive into smaller "byte" size [pardon the pun ;)] partitions of <2Tb...
Anyone with a firmer grasp is free to tag in.
[1] "I'm using the installer. I have 2 SAS HDs with 600 GB RAID1 (for the OS) and 4 HDs with 3 TB RAID5, that makes a virtial disk with 8.5 TB for storage, but a only can create a partition with 2 TB. When I try to use a larger size, I have a warning that the size has been exceeded." https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/7039/maximum-disk-size-for-fedora-16/
I have a 6TB WD My Book attached. Has only partition 1 (which is the entire disk), formatted as EXT3, and connected via usb - Absolutely zero problems. I have absolutely no idea why your system is choking on 3 TB.
On 10/30/2016 08:31 PM, fred roller wrote:
[22133.737857] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22134.737714] ..................................................................... .. ...................not responding...
System is detecting... you are being assigned sdd in your sequence but the system is choking on the size. And; educated guess here, from the sounds of things while Redhat et. al. can handle into the 20Tb+ range for lvm, raid, etc. seems to some extent limited to 2Tb according to this[1] and similar articles eluding to a 2Tb cap per partition. My suspension is the 3Tb is not being handled... curious if fdisk can access sdd and re-partition the drive into smaller "byte" size [pardon the pun ;)] partitions of <2Tb...
Anyone with a firmer grasp is free to tag in.
[1] "I'm using the installer. I have 2 SAS HDs with 600 GB RAID1 (for the OS) and 4 HDs with 3 TB RAID5, that makes a virtial disk with 8.5 TB for storage, but a only can create a partition with 2 TB. When I try to use a larger size, I have a warning that the size has been exceeded." https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/7039/maximum-disk-size-for -fedora-16/
I have a 6TB WD My Book attached. Has only partition 1 (which is the entire disk), formatted as EXT3, and connected via usb - Absolutely zero problems. I have absolutely no idea why your system is choking on 3 TB.
-----------------------------------------------------------
Thanks much for all of everyone's help.... Not sure there is anything else I can do at this point.
Greg _______________________________________________
Don't know if it would make a difference, but are you plugging it into a USB3 port? My lab got new machines about a year and half ago, and I knew machines had USB 3 ports, so I hooked up a 1.5TB usb disk, and got very slow results. Turned out that only 2 of the 6 USB ports are USB 3, others are only USB 2. Don't know if there would be a difference in the size of disk supported by USB 2 versus USB 3.
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Gregory P. Ennis PoMec@pomec.net wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Michael D. Setzer II <mikes@kuentos.gu am.net> wrote:
Would be interest to see how gparted sees the existing format, since ntfs should not be a problem if you have ntfs-3g installed?
gparted isn't seeing anything near as I can tell, hence the request for dmesg info... sounds like some background system work is happening but is getting caught up somewhere. I agree with fat16/32 limitations especially since the OP is archiving images which can get rather large. Formatting just seemed easiest as a way to eliminate some possibilities because of fat fs wide acceptance. If it works, then it was a file system issue and if not then most likely a deeper hardware issue. If the former then a matter of installing support for the desired fs or format to one that best suits OP's needs. I am not thinking the latter because a couple articles where the posting OPs' stated they plugged in the drive and the system recognized it including Eddie above; but, technologies change and WD firmware may be conflicting with the OP's system since the are just purchased. At this point it is just conjecture until we get a better picture. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
Fred,
The drive is a 3T drive
Here is the end of dmesg :
[22032.142905] usb 8-1.3: New USB device found, idVendor=1058, idProduct=259d [22032.142909] usb 8-1.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=1 [22032.142912] usb 8-1.3: Product: My Passport 259D [22032.142914] usb 8-1.3: Manufacturer: Western Digital [22032.142916] usb 8-1.3: SerialNumber: 575832314437363658383146 [22032.144659] usb-storage 8-1.3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [22032.145363] scsi host12: usb-storage 8-1.3:1.0 [22033.148475] scsi 12:0:0:0: Direct-Access WD My Passport 259D 1012 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6 [22033.149280] scsi 12:0:0:1: Enclosure WD SES Device 1012 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6 [22033.162543] sd 12:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg4 type 0 [22033.163005] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached Enclosure device [22033.163868] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22033.165424] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 13 [22034.163430] ....................................... [22106.673511] usb 8-1.3: reset high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd [22108.037081] ........................not responding... [22133.734712] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). [22133.735030] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] 5860466688 512-byte logical blocks: (3.00 TB/2.73 TiB) [22133.735038] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] 4096-byte physical blocks [22133.735604] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Write Protect is off [22133.735608] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Mode Sense: 53 00 10 08 [22133.736133] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] No Caching mode page found [22133.736137] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Assuming drive cache: write through [22133.737857] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22134.737714] ....................................................................... ...................not responding... [22233.896939] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Very big device. Trying to use READ CAPACITY(16). _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
How old is your hardware/BIOS?
"If you have 64-bit Vista, 64-bit Windows 7, a Mac, 64-bit Linux, or in some cases 32-bit Linux, check to see if your system's BIOS supports 3TB. If doesn't, you'll need to obtain a BIOS update or to buy a newer motherboard that supports 3TB." -- http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/everything-you-need-to-know-about-3tb-...
On 10/30/2016 05:50 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
[22033.163868] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22033.165424] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 13 [22034.163430] ....................................... [22106.673511] usb 8-1.3: reset high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd [22108.037081] ........................not responding...
Seems like your system is seeing the disk controller, but the disk isn't spinning up. Could be a bad drive, or could be that it's not getting enough power from your system. Does this drive work when it's connected to a USB 3 port on a different computer?
On 10/31/2016 04:40 AM, George N. White III wrote:
How old is your hardware/BIOS?
"If you have 64-bit Vista, 64-bit Windows 7, a Mac, 64-bit Linux, or in some cases 32-bit Linux, check to see if your system's BIOS supports 3TB. If doesn't, you'll need to obtain a BIOS update or to buy a newer motherboard that supports 3TB."
That only applies to disks you're booting from.
On 10/30/2016 07:31 PM, fred roller wrote:
System is detecting... you are being assigned sdd in your sequence but the system is choking on the size. ... seems to some extent limited to 2Tb according to this[1] and similar articles eluding to a 2Tb cap per partition.
That limitation applies to partitions in an MS-DOS partition table. Larger drives and systems that boot with UEFI use GPT instead, and aren't subject to that limitation.
Perhaps - JUST PERHAPS - your damned cable is crappy. Get a brand new one made for disks, and not charging cell phones.
On 10/31/2016 09:12 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 10/30/2016 05:50 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
[22033.163868] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22033.165424] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 13 [22034.163430] ....................................... [22106.673511] usb 8-1.3: reset high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd [22108.037081] ........................not responding...
Seems like your system is seeing the disk controller, but the disk isn't spinning up. Could be a bad drive, or could be that it's not getting enough power from your system. Does this drive work when it's connected to a USB 3 port on a different computer? _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
On 10/31/2016 09:42 AM, jd1008 wrote:
Perhaps - JUST PERHAPS - your damned cable is crappy. Get a brand new one made for disks, and not charging cell phones.
My guess is your cable has that USB 3.0 micro 10-pin connector to the drive at one end, and possibly two USB type A connectors for the computer end. If so, make sure the thicker of the type A connectors is on a USB3 port (if you have one) and make sure the other one is also connected.
These drives typically take power from the USB ports and it's possible the drive can't spin up because one port doesn't supply enough power. Try using a powered USB hub if you have one. I've hit that issue before on my desktop (no problem on my laptop...it appears that you can arc weld using the USB ports on it in a pinch).
On 10/31/2016 09:12 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 10/30/2016 05:50 PM, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
[22033.163868] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdd] Spinning up disk... [22033.165424] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg5 type 13 [22034.163430] ....................................... [22106.673511] usb 8-1.3: reset high-speed USB device number 10 using xhci_hcd [22108.037081] ........................not responding...
Seems like your system is seeing the disk controller, but the disk isn't spinning up. Could be a bad drive, or could be that it's not getting enough power from your system. Does this drive work when it's connected to a USB 3 port on a different computer?
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On 10/31/2016 11:20 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 10/30/2016 07:31 PM, fred roller wrote:
System is detecting... you are being assigned sdd in your sequence but the system is choking on the size. ... seems to some extent limited to 2Tb according to this[1] and similar articles eluding to a 2Tb cap per partition.
That limitation applies to partitions in an MS-DOS partition table. Larger drives and systems that boot with UEFI use GPT instead, and aren't subject to that limitation. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
In certain cases isn't there a way to format a drive using the GPT option? (I believe it's in "Disks") and then you select the drive in question.....then go to the upper right hand corner and select the "Format Disk" choice. When it opens you're looking to partition the drive using the GPT selection and not the MBR-DOS option. This might allow the entire drive to be seen. Granted it also might take a LONG TIME to format!...after all its 3TB in size..Hope that helps.
EGO II
On 10/31/2016 09:42 AM, jd1008 wrote:
Perhaps - JUST PERHAPS - your damned cable is crappy. Get a brand new one made for disks, and not charging cell phones.
Note that this drive, and portable drives in general (as far as I know) don't use the same cable that phones do:
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I know that participating in the mailing list is sometimes frustrating, but can we try not to berate people here?
On 10/31/2016 01:02 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
In certain cases isn't there a way to format a drive using the GPT option? (I believe it's in "Disks") and then you select the drive in question.....then go to the upper right hand corner and select the "Format Disk" choice. When it opens you're looking to partition the drive using the GPT selection and not the MBR-DOS option. This might allow the entire drive to be seen. Granted it also might take a LONG TIME to format!...after all its 3TB in size..Hope that helps.
The problem with this drive doesn't appear to have anything to do with its capacity or its partition table. The logs appear to indicate that it isn't spinning up.
On 10/31/2016 01:31 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 10/31/2016 01:02 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
In certain cases isn't there a way to format a drive using the GPT option? (I believe it's in "Disks") and then you select the drive in question.....then go to the upper right hand corner and select the "Format Disk" choice. When it opens you're looking to partition the drive using the GPT selection and not the MBR-DOS option. This might allow the entire drive to be seen. Granted it also might take a LONG TIME to format!...after all its 3TB in size..Hope that helps.
The problem with this drive doesn't appear to have anything to do with its capacity or its partition table. The logs appear to indicate that it isn't spinning up.
And as I said, if the USB cable has two USB A connectors for the computer, connect the one with the thicker cable to a USB3 port (that one is usually both data and power and the connector is blue in color) and make sure the one with a thinner cable is also connected to a USB port (USB 1.1 or 2--it's used just for supplemental power).
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On 10/31/2016 04:31 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 10/31/2016 01:02 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
In certain cases isn't there a way to format a drive using the GPT option? (I believe it's in "Disks") and then you select the drive in question.....then go to the upper right hand corner and select the "Format Disk" choice. When it opens you're looking to partition the drive using the GPT selection and not the MBR-DOS option. This might allow the entire drive to be seen. Granted it also might take a LONG TIME to format!...after all its 3TB in size..Hope that helps.
The problem with this drive doesn't appear to have anything to do with its capacity or its partition table. The logs appear to indicate that it isn't spinning up. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
Then indeed?...it might be just best to try to return it and get another one. And to be sure that the cables can power the device to sufficient speed.
EGO II
Everyone,
Thank you all for your help. I had to put my problem on hold until I had time to digest all you advice. I almost got a sledge hammer out, but restrained myself.
The problem turned out to be related to the using the front usb ports instead of the usb ports on the back of the machine as well as the cable I was using. Once I had a good cable and used the ports on the back of the machine (directly into the mother board), everything worked automatically and perfect.
Thanks again for all of your help !!!!!
Greg
--------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Don't know if it would make a difference, but are you plugging it into a USB3 port? My lab got new machines about a year and half ago, and I knew machines had USB 3 ports, so I hooked up a 1.5TB usb disk, and got very slow results. Turned out that only 2 of the 6 USB ports are USB 3, others are only USB 2. Don't know if there would be a difference in the size of disk supported by USB 2 versus USB 3.
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List <users@lists.fedoraproject.or g> Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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WD ships the drive formated as exFAT, which will not mount on fedora.
Reformat as NTFS and fedora will mount the drive. Beware that default while formating an option external drive in winodws 10 seemed to be exFAT.
I just went through this with a 4TB drive.
Barry
On 19 Nov 2016, at 01:02, Gregory P. Ennis PoMec@PoMec.Net wrote:
Everyone,
Thank you all for your help. I had to put my problem on hold until I had time to digest all you advice. I almost got a sledge hammer out, but restrained myself.
The problem turned out to be related to the using the front usb ports instead of the usb ports on the back of the machine as well as the cable I was using. Once I had a good cable and used the ports on the back of the machine (directly into the mother board), everything worked automatically and perfect.
Thanks again for all of your help !!!!!
Greg
Don't know if it would make a difference, but are you plugging it into a USB3 port? My lab got new machines about a year and half ago, and I knew machines had USB 3 ports, so I hooked up a 1.5TB usb disk, and got very slow results. Turned out that only 2 of the 6 USB ports are USB 3, others are only USB 2. Don't know if there would be a difference in the size of disk supported by USB 2 versus USB 3.
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List <users@lists.fedoraproject.or g> Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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There is an exFat driver in fuse.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Barry barry@barrys-emacs.org wrote:
WD ships the drive formated as exFAT, which will not mount on fedora.
Reformat as NTFS and fedora will mount the drive. Beware that default while formating an option external drive in winodws 10 seemed to be exFAT.
I just went through this with a 4TB drive.
Barry
On 19 Nov 2016, at 01:02, Gregory P. Ennis PoMec@PoMec.Net wrote:
Everyone,
Thank you all for your help. I had to put my problem on hold until I had time to digest all you advice. I almost got a sledge hammer out, but restrained myself.
The problem turned out to be related to the using the front usb ports instead of the usb ports on the back of the machine as well as the cable I was using. Once I had a good cable and used the ports on the back of the machine (directly into the mother board), everything worked automatically and perfect.
Thanks again for all of your help !!!!!
Greg
Don't know if it would make a difference, but are you plugging it into a USB3 port? My lab got new machines about a year and half ago, and I knew machines had USB 3 ports, so I hooked up a 1.5TB usb disk, and got very slow results. Turned out that only 2 of the 6 USB ports are USB 3, others are only USB 2. Don't know if there would be a difference in the size of disk supported by USB 2 versus USB 3.
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List <users@lists.fedoraproject.or g> Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
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Barry,
Also if that Fedora install has the rpmfusion repos (both free and nonfree) enabled then exfat is no longer an issue.. install the needed bits with:
'sudo dnf install exfat-utils fuse-exfat -y'
If you lack the rpmfusion repos run this command FIRST:
'dnf install https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(r... -E %fedora).noarch.rpm'
Barry:
WD ships the drive formated as exFAT, which will not mount on fedora.
Reformat as NTFS and fedora will mount the drive. Beware that default while formating an option external drive in winodws 10 seemed to be exFAT.
I just went through this with a 4TB drive.
Barry
On 19 Nov 2016, at 01:02, Gregory P. Ennis PoMec@PoMec.Net wrote:
Everyone,
Thank you all for your help. I had to put my problem on hold until I had time to digest all you advice. I almost got a sledge hammer out, but restrained myself.
The problem turned out to be related to the using the front usb ports instead of the usb ports on the back of the machine as well as the cable I was using. Once I had a good cable and used the ports on the back of the machine (directly into the mother board), everything worked automatically and perfect.
Thanks again for all of your help !!!!!
Greg
Don't know if it would make a difference, but are you plugging it into a USB3 port? My lab got new machines about a year and half ago, and I knew machines had USB 3 ports, so I hooked up a 1.5TB usb disk, and got very slow results. Turned out that only 2 of the 6 USB ports are USB 3, others are only USB 2. Don't know if there would be a difference in the size of disk supported by USB 2 versus USB 3.
On 30 Oct 2016 at 15:15, Gregory P. Ennis wrote:
Subject: WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drive problem From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: Fedora Users List <users@lists.fedoraproject.or g> Date sent: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 15:15:26 -0500 Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Everyone,
I just purchased 3 WD My Passport Ultra 3T usb drives that I had hoped to use for archive files for some digital images.
Looks like WD has made it difficult to use for Linux. The google searches that I did stepped me through mounting it on a Windows 10 system and then formatting it with nts. Unfortuantely, when I tried to connect it to Fedora 24 I am still not able to recognize it to mount it. All of the /dev/sd* entries were the same before and after I plugged it in. Smartmontools appears to recognize it when it is plugged in a usb port, but pauses and does not finish its execution to completion. gparted scans all devices and does not finish when the drive is plugged in a usb port.
Has anyone in the group figured out how to use these drives?
Thanks for you help!!!!
Greg Ennis _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
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