I'm trying to install FC8 on my old, creaky Thinkpad A22p (ATI Rage Mobility Rage 3) and the video from the graphical installer is not correct. I get about 1/3 of the orginal screen, then 1/3 of the third 1/3 of screen followed by that 1/3 again.
If I use the text installer, X will not start when running the first time after installing.
TTIA.
James McKenzie (And a big thank you to the wiki documentation team. I read through and used the archives to see if this had been answered before posting!)
James McKenzie wrote:
I'm trying to install FC8 on my old, creaky Thinkpad A22p (ATI Rage Mobility Rage 3) and the video from the graphical installer is not correct. I get about 1/3 of the orginal screen, then 1/3 of the third 1/3 of screen followed by that 1/3 again.
it is possible that video drives for your laptop are not available in fc8.
download and burn a 'live cd' for a later version, f11 or f12 or f13 to see how video is handled.
If I use the text installer, X will not start when running the first time after installing.
'X' does not configure to start when a text install is used and sets up a 'level 3' start up.
at login prompt, login as user, at command line, enter 'startx' with out '' to see if 'X' will start.
if it does and all is ok, if not, post back with results.
you can maintain level 3 and use 'startx' for opening desktop.
or, as 'root' user, open '/etc/inittab' and change line;
at 'root' user prompt:
cd /etc vi inittab
press down arrow key to line with 'id:3:initdefault:', move cursor with right arrow key to '3', press <r> key, press <5> key.
to write/save, and exit, press in sequence ':wq' with out ''.
this will change 'id:3:initdefault:' to 'id:5:initdefault:' and thereafter system will boot you in desktop manager for logins.
g wrote:
James McKenzie wrote:
I'm trying to install FC8 on my old, creaky Thinkpad A22p (ATI Rage
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an addition that i left out, fc8 is a bit old and no longer supported, and has several security bugs.
if live cd for f12 or f13 work, consider using either of them.
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 20:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
I'm trying to install FC8 on my old, creaky Thinkpad A22p (ATI Rage Mobility Rage 3) and the video from the graphical installer is not correct. I get about 1/3 of the orginal screen, then 1/3 of the third 1/3 of screen followed by that 1/3 again.
If I use the text installer, X will not start when running the first time after installing.
TTIA.
James McKenzie (And a big thank you to the wiki documentation team. I read through and used the archives to see if this had been answered before posting!)
James,
My A22p has the same problem. I have had to use the basic (VESA) video driver whenever installing Fedora. A couple of weeks ago I finally found the 'gtf' utility which computed the required modeline. I wrote a custom xorg.conf file for Fedora 13. If Fedora 8 uses xorg (I don't remember), it should work for you.
--Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL
$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "r128" EndSection
Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "IBM" ModelName "Thinkpad A22p" DisplaySize 305 229 # 1600x1200 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 74.52 kHz; pclk: 160.96 MHz Modeline "1600x1200 60.00" 160.96 1600 1704 1880 2160 1200 1201 1204 1242 -HSync +Vsync EndSection
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" Subsection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" EndSubSection EndSection
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 20:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
I'm trying to install FC8 on my old, creaky Thinkpad A22p (ATI Rage Mobility Rage 3) and the video from the graphical installer is not correct. I get about 1/3 of the orginal screen, then 1/3 of the third 1/3 of screen followed by that 1/3 again.
If I use the text installer, X will not start when running the first time after installing.
TTIA.
James McKenzie (And a big thank you to the wiki documentation team. I read through and used the archives to see if this had been answered before posting!)
James,
My A22p has the same problem. I have had to use the basic (VESA) video driver whenever installing Fedora. A couple of weeks ago I finally found the 'gtf' utility which computed the required modeline. I wrote a custom xorg.conf file for Fedora 13. If Fedora 8 uses xorg (I don't remember), it should work for you.
[custom xorg deleted]
Does it take a LONG time to boot into X or did I do something wrong?
And what can I do to revert the inittab back so I can mess with this file some more (actually key it into submission.)
James McKenzie
On 08/15/2010 09:11 PM, James McKenzie wrote: <snip>
Does it take a LONG time to boot into X or did I do something wrong?
determined by cpu speed, memory, hdd speed, and a few other things.
And what can I do to revert the inittab back so I can mess with this file some more (actually key it into submission.)
you can press <tab> or <esc> to interrupt boot screen. at menu prompt, press <e> to edit, cursor down to line starting with "kernel", press <e>.
cursor will be at end of line, press <space> then <1> then <enter> then <b>.
you will boot to 'level 1'.
at 'root' user prompt:
cd /etc vi inittab
press down arrow key to line with 'id:5:initdefault:', move cursor with right arrow key to '5', press <r> key, press <3> key.
to write/save, and exit, press in sequence ':wq' with out ''.
this will change 'id:5:initdefault:' to 'id:3:initdefault:' and thereafter system will boot to command line login.
while at 'level 1', type in "init 3<enter>" to start 'level 3', login.
when logged in, "cd /etc/X11", "su", make what ever changes you wish to 'xorg.conf'. save file.
enter 'exit' or press <ctrl+c> to return to 'user'.
entering 'startx' will start "X" server.
hth.
g wrote:
On 08/15/2010 09:11 PM, James McKenzie wrote:
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entering 'startx' will start "X" server.
I thought so. Could not find startx anywhere on the drive. I suspect my install/upgrade was not correct. "Doc" Savage warned me about this. I'm starting over after blowing away the FC8 install.
James McKenzie
On 08/16/2010 02:27 AM, James McKenzie wrote: <snip>
I thought so. Could not find startx anywhere on the drive. I suspect my install/upgrade was not correct.
interesting.
'startx' is/was a part of 'xorg-x11-xinit' package.
that is, that is as it is in current versions sl5.4 that i am running. f12 is still trashed so i can not reply for it.
if you are saying that it was not in fc8, i do not recall, tho i can say that i used it in fc8, as i always boot 'level 3' and i have always used "alias kde='startx'" in my 'bash.rc' file. [i am a lazy typer who like terse.]
script is located as '/usr/bin/startx', possibly you do not have '/usr/bin' in your "PATH", tho i would not think so.
"Doc" Savage warned me about this.
about 'startx' not available or having trouble. i do not recall his post.
I'm starting over after blowing away the FC8 install.
i wish i could run a fedora on my t380ed thinkpad, but not enough memory, so i will be loading 'dsl', when i 'round2it'.
much luck.
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 20:21 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
I'm trying to install FC8 on my old, creaky Thinkpad A22p (ATI Rage Mobility Rage 3) and the video from the graphical installer is not correct. I get about 1/3 of the orginal screen, then 1/3 of the third 1/3 of screen followed by that 1/3 again.
If I use the text installer, X will not start when running the first time after installing.
TTIA.
James McKenzie (And a big thank you to the wiki documentation team. I read through and used the archives to see if this had been answered before posting!)
James,
My A22p has the same problem. I have had to use the basic (VESA) video driver whenever installing Fedora. A couple of weeks ago I finally found the 'gtf' utility which computed the required modeline. I wrote a custom xorg.conf file for Fedora 13. If Fedora 8 uses xorg (I don't remember), it should work for you.
Re-installed and now my video is still 'messed' up. Where can I find the gtf utility?
James McKenzie
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 21:07 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
James,
My A22p has the same problem. I have had to use the basic (VESA) video driver whenever installing Fedora. A couple of weeks ago I finally found the 'gtf' utility which computed the required modeline. I wrote a custom xorg.conf file for Fedora 13. If Fedora 8 uses xorg (I don't remember), it should work for you.
Re-installed and now my video is still 'messed' up. Where can I find the gtf utility?
James,
It's /usr/bin/gtf. If not installed, 'yum install xorg-x11-server-Xorg'.
--Doc
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 21:07 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
James,
My A22p has the same problem. I have had to use the basic (VESA) video driver whenever installing Fedora. A couple of weeks ago I finally found the 'gtf' utility which computed the required modeline. I wrote a custom xorg.conf file for Fedora 13. If Fedora 8 uses xorg (I don't remember), it should work for you.
Re-installed and now my video is still 'messed' up. Where can I find the gtf utility?
James,
It's /usr/bin/gtf. If not installed, 'yum install xorg-x11-server-Xorg'.
Thank you. Now I'll have to find the package...
James McKenzie
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 18:05 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 21:07 -0700, James McKenzie wrote:
Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote:
James,
My A22p has the same problem. I have had to use the basic (VESA) video driver whenever installing Fedora. A couple of weeks ago I finally found the 'gtf' utility which computed the required modeline. I wrote a custom xorg.conf file for Fedora 13. If Fedora 8 uses xorg (I don't remember), it should work for you.
Re-installed and now my video is still 'messed' up. Where can I find the gtf utility?
James,
It's /usr/bin/gtf. If not installed, 'yum install xorg-x11-server-Xorg'.
Thank you. Now I'll have to find the package...
James,
No, you don't. If you have /etc/yum.repos.d/fedora-updates.repo, yum will find & fetch it for you.
--Doc
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