4:27 a.m.
Hi all,
what is the state of Pulseaudio in F10?
On my previous installation (F8) I disabled PA after a short test as
there where to many problems with it. On my fresh install of F10 I
have it currently enabled, thinking that it should be more mature by
now.
At first it had the wrong soundcard as a default device, this was
easily changed and is no real bug (although perhaps the installer
should ask which soundcard should be used if there is more than one).
Rhythmbox and mplayer now have sound (but only stereo instead of 5.1
it seems), so that's fine.
All games have no sound though, even those installed from the Fedora
repository (for example "Battle for Wesnoth").
I can understand if third-party software still has problems with PA,
but shouldn't at least the games that are shipped with the
distribution work with the default sound setup?
How to fix this? Uninstall PA again?
Niels
4:09 p.m.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:03:01 +0100
Niels Weber wrote:
Actually, I just found out that sound _was_ working
I made the same discovery today, but apparently the default
volume setting was really really low for some reason. After
cranking up the volume I can hear things like my "new mail" sound
being played.
10:03 a.m.
Richard Shaw wrote:
One thing I did was to copy default.pa and daemon.conf to ~/.pulse
before editing so the change wouldn't be system wide. Also, I wasn't
sure if those files might get overwritten during an update or
installed as .rpmnew or whatever.
It should never get overwritten. .rpmnew files would be created if there
is a configuration format change. Anything else is a packaging bug.
Rahul
10:01 a.m.
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Niels Weber <nathelbiya(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Replying to myself as I found something out...
2008/12/11 Niels Weber <nathelbiya(a)gmail.com>:
> So it seems that Pulseaudio is working after all... now I need only to
> find out how to get surround sound.
After looking into the PulseAudio FAQ, that was quite easy:
http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ#IhaveasurroundsoundcardbutPulseAudious...
"To enable all the channels, edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf: uncomment
the default-sample-channels line (i.e. remove the semicolon from the
beginning of the line) and set the value to 6 if you have a 5.1 setup,
or 8 if you have 7.1 setup etc. After doing the edit, restart
pulseaudio."
That was all. Really easy compared to what I had to do back then to
get surround working with alsa alone on one of the older Fedoras
(which took me weeks).
Now, surround works even in Prey - which it didn't with my previous
setup (without PA under F8).
Niels
One thing I did was to copy default.pa and daemon.conf to ~/.pulse
before editing so the change wouldn't be system wide. Also, I wasn't
sure if those files might get overwritten during an update or
installed as .rpmnew or whatever.
Richard
2:21 a.m.
Replying to myself as I found something out...
2008/12/11 Niels Weber <nathelbiya(a)gmail.com>:
So it seems that Pulseaudio is working after all... now I need only
to
find out how to get surround sound.
After looking into the PulseAudio FAQ, that was quite easy:
http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ#IhaveasurroundsoundcardbutPulseAudious...
"To enable all the channels, edit /etc/pulse/daemon.conf: uncomment
the default-sample-channels line (i.e. remove the semicolon from the
beginning of the line) and set the value to 6 if you have a 5.1 setup,
or 8 if you have 7.1 setup etc. After doing the edit, restart
pulseaudio."
That was all. Really easy compared to what I had to do back then to
get surround working with alsa alone on one of the older Fedoras
(which took me weeks).
Now, surround works even in Prey - which it didn't with my previous
setup (without PA under F8).
Niels
10:12 a.m.
2008/12/11 Tom Horsley <tom.horsley(a)att.net>:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:03:01 +0100
Niels Weber wrote:
> Actually, I just found out that sound _was_ working
I made the same discovery today, but apparently the default
volume setting was really really low for some reason. After
cranking up the volume I can hear things like my "new mail" sound
being played.
One thing I also noticed was that Pulseaudio seems to use a lot of
CPU. It seems to be alsways around 10% with spikes from time to time.
This results in slowdowns while playing a movie - very ugly.
Anyone got a solution for that?
Niels
11:07 a.m.
Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com> writes:
I still have one FC6 machine I use for sound, does all the channels,
multiple inputs, can use the external speakers in the other
room... and I wouldn't upgrade it for anything!
If you install F10 on enough machines, you'll eventually find one that
has working sound. ;-) At least, that's my method. If someone sends
me a link to a video, I try to remember to play it the next time I'm
using my laptop.
-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht http://www.full-steam.org/ (ipv6-only)
You may need to config 6to4 to see the above pages.
11:46 a.m.
Niels Weber wrote:
Hi all,
what is the state of Pulseaudio in F10?
It works out of the box on over the half the installs as long as you have a
single well known soundcard. The documentation is incomplete, there are a number
of mixers and switches which interact in poorly-defined ways, and the
interaction between alsa and PA is somewhat hardware dependent.
If you are a guru able to figure it out from the source code and really need to
mix multiple sources, it works well.
On my previous installation (F8) I disabled PA after a short test as
there where to many problems with it. On my fresh install of F10 I
have it currently enabled, thinking that it should be more mature by
now.
You probably want to take it out totally if you disable it.
At first it had the wrong soundcard as a default device, this was
easily changed and is no real bug (although perhaps the installer
should ask which soundcard should be used if there is more than one).
Rhythmbox and mplayer now have sound (but only stereo instead of 5.1
it seems), so that's fine.
Yes, the nice driver GUI which left you select the mode is long gone. I had it
in FC[456] and not since. I saw a post saying you can still do that, but it
notably omitted any hint how, or pointer to human readable documentation.
All games have no sound though, even those installed from the Fedora
repository (for example "Battle for Wesnoth").
Fedora is for serious uses, you should be doing software development and running
servers. ;-)
I can understand if third-party software still has problems with PA,
but shouldn't at least the games that are shipped with the
distribution work with the default sound setup?
IMHO PulseAudio is a poorly documented and overly complex solution to problems
most users don't have. It never should have been made a default, because it
doesn't work for a large number of users who have more than the absolute lowest
level sound hardware and less than the highest level of sound expertise.
How to fix this? Uninstall PA again?
That worked in FC9, I tried it in F10 and alsa sound stopped working as well, so
I don't have a solution. I still have one FC6 machine I use for sound, does all
the channels, multiple inputs, can use the external speakers in the other
room... and I wouldn't upgrade it for anything!
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
4:03 p.m.
2008/12/9 Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com>:
Niels Weber wrote:
> All games have no sound though, even those installed from the Fedora
> repository (for example "Battle for Wesnoth").
>
Fedora is for serious uses, you should be doing software development and
running servers. ;-)
Actually, I just found out that sound _was_ working in Wesnoth, only
for some reason the game was set up not to play any sounds. So in that
case it was a visit to the games setup page.
Quake 4 needed a "yum install alsa-lib.i386
alsa-plugins-pulseaudio.i386" as I had only the 64bit version
installed.
Neverwinter Nights worked as well afterwards.
So it seems that Pulseaudio is working after all... now I need only to
find out how to get surround sound.
Niels
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