Hello,
I thought I would try installing Fedora 9. Unfortunately, my laptop has no optical drive. I made a bootable USB stick, and like I said, I manage to boot from it, but the fonts are corrupt. Still, I can move to text mode (say ctrl-alt-f1) and use the Live version quite well.
Since I have Vista, I thought I might have an easier way of installing Fedora without having a DVD. I thought of downloading the ISO and then looking for a boot loader or something of that sort that can "boot" from an .iso file (on a windows partition.) I know one can mount an .iso on linux to a directory, so I see no reason why a boot loader could not do something like that as well.
However, I did not manage to find something to allow me to do that. Looking on google leads to all kind of "hints" that it is possible to somehow install fedora using the DVD .iso (on the Vista partition) or from the Live CD on a USB stick (without being connected to the internet), but nothing explicit. Anyone has experience with it? Also, I hope Fedora 9 installation will make it easy to create a new partition for it (or maybe I should first deal with using gparted to prepare a partition properly)...
Thanks.
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 21:04 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote:
Hello,
I thought I would try installing Fedora 9. Unfortunately, my laptop has no optical drive. I made a bootable USB stick, and like I said, I manage to boot from it, but the fonts are corrupt. Still, I can move to text mode (say ctrl-alt-f1) and use the Live version quite well.
Since I have Vista, I thought I might have an easier way of installing Fedora without having a DVD. I thought of downloading the ISO and then looking for a boot loader or something of that sort that can "boot" from an .iso file (on a windows partition.) I know one can mount an .iso on linux to a directory, so I see no reason why a boot loader could not do something like that as well.
Because it's a completely different situation. You're asking for the boot loader to understand the Windows filesystem so it can find the iso file.
However, I did not manage to find something to allow me to do that. Looking on google leads to all kind of "hints" that it is possible to somehow install fedora using the DVD .iso (on the Vista partition) or from the Live CD on a USB stick (without being connected to the internet), but nothing explicit. Anyone has experience with it? Also, I hope Fedora 9 installation will make it easy to create a new partition for it (or maybe I should first deal with using gparted to prepare a partition properly)...
Have you read the Fedora Installation Guide? There's a section specifically about installing from USB media: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-making-media.html#id...
poc
Hi,
Mmm.. If I understand correctly, I am past the stage that you referred to me in the guide - I already have a USB stick with Live CD - I think that's what they suggest there? I actually want to install a fedora on part of the hard disk. But I could maybe mount the full DVD .iso using the USB stick live version, after mounting the Vista partition which contains that ISO, and run the installation from the mounted .iso - that's what I was trying to look for in google. I was hoping it is possible to do that, instead of having to boot from the full DVD version for full installation (since I dont have a DVD or a 4GB USB stick...)
Thanks for your answer.
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 21:04 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote:
Hello,
I thought I would try installing Fedora 9. Unfortunately, my laptop has no optical drive. I made a bootable USB stick, and like I said, I manage to boot from it, but the fonts are corrupt. Still, I can move to text mode (say ctrl-alt-f1) and use the Live version quite well.
Since I have Vista, I thought I might have an easier way of installing Fedora without having a DVD. I thought of downloading the ISO and then looking for a boot loader or something of that sort that can "boot" from an .iso file (on a windows partition.) I know one can mount an .iso on linux to a directory, so I see no reason why a boot loader could not do something like that as well.
Because it's a completely different situation. You're asking for the boot loader to understand the Windows filesystem so it can find the iso file.
However, I did not manage to find something to allow me to do that. Looking on google leads to all kind of "hints" that it is possible to somehow install fedora using the DVD .iso (on the Vista partition) or from the Live CD on a USB stick (without being connected to the internet), but nothing explicit. Anyone has experience with it? Also, I hope Fedora 9 installation will make it easy to create a new partition for it (or maybe I should first deal with using gparted to prepare a partition properly)...
Have you read the Fedora Installation Guide? There's a section specifically about installing from USB media:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-making-media.html#id...
poc
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On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Jerry Ro jerrro@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Mmm.. If I understand correctly, I am past the stage that you referred to me in the guide - I already have a USB stick with Live CD - I think that's what they suggest there? I actually want to install a fedora on part of the hard disk. But I could maybe mount the full DVD .iso using the USB stick live version, after mounting the Vista partition which contains that ISO, and run the installation from the mounted .iso - that's what I was trying to look for in google. I was hoping it is possible to do that, instead of having to boot from the full DVD version for full installation (since I dont have a DVD or a 4GB USB stick...)
Thanks for your answer.
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 21:04 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote:
Hello,
I thought I would try installing Fedora 9. Unfortunately, my laptop has no optical drive. I made a bootable USB stick, and like I said, I manage to boot from it, but the fonts are corrupt. Still, I can move to text mode (say ctrl-alt-f1) and use the Live version quite well.
Since I have Vista, I thought I might have an easier way of installing Fedora without having a DVD. I thought of downloading the ISO and then looking for a boot loader or something of that sort that can "boot" from an .iso file (on a windows partition.) I know one can mount an .iso on linux to a directory, so I see no reason why a boot loader could not do something like that as well.
Because it's a completely different situation. You're asking for the boot loader to understand the Windows filesystem so it can find the iso file.
However, I did not manage to find something to allow me to do that. Looking on google leads to all kind of "hints" that it is possible to somehow install fedora using the DVD .iso (on the Vista partition) or from the Live CD on a USB stick (without being connected to the internet), but nothing explicit. Anyone has experience with it? Also, I hope Fedora 9 installation will make it easy to create a new partition for it (or maybe I should first deal with using gparted to prepare a partition properly)...
Have you read the Fedora Installation Guide? There's a section specifically about installing from USB media:
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-making-media.html#id...
poc
Try Unetbootin: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 22:04 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote:
Mmm.. If I understand correctly, I am past the stage that you referred to me in the guide - I already have a USB stick with Live CD - I think that's what they suggest there?
Fair enough, but that's not what you implied in your earlier messages.
I actually want to install a fedora on part of the hard disk. But I could maybe mount the full DVD .iso using the USB stick live version, after mounting the Vista partition which contains that ISO, and run the installation from the mounted .iso - that's what I was trying to look for in google. I was hoping it is possible to do that, instead of having to boot from the full DVD version for full installation (since I dont have a DVD or a 4GB USB stick...)
I still can't get my head round what you're trying to do. If you have a Live USB stick, then why not install from that? Once you've done so, you can easily install extra stuff from the DVD if you have it. You can even do it from an ISO image of the DVD on your Windows partition (it'll mean mounting the partition under Linux and using a loopback mount for the image, but one thing at a time).
What you haven't mentioned, either because you haven't realized it's necessary or because it's too obvious to bring up, is that you have to partition your hard disk to add space for Linux. Don't expect to be able to boot and run Fedora from a file in your Windows system (I think Ubuntu supports doing this if it's what you really want, but you'd need to ask elsewhere about that).
poc
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallaghan@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 22:04 -0400, Jerry Ro wrote:
Mmm.. If I understand correctly, I am past the stage that you referred to me in the guide - I already have a USB stick with Live CD - I think that's what they suggest there?
Fair enough, but that's not what you implied in your earlier messages.
I actually want to install a fedora on part of the hard disk. But I could maybe mount the full DVD .iso using the USB stick live version, after mounting the Vista partition which contains that ISO, and run the installation from the mounted .iso - that's what I was trying to look for in google. I was hoping it is possible to do that, instead of having to boot from the full DVD version for full installation (since I dont have a DVD or a 4GB USB stick...)
I still can't get my head round what you're trying to do. If you have a Live USB stick, then why not install from that? Once you've done so, you can easily install extra stuff from the DVD if you have it. You can even do it from an ISO image of the DVD on your Windows partition (it'll mean mounting the partition under Linux and using a loopback mount for the image, but one thing at a time).
What you haven't mentioned, either because you haven't realized it's necessary or because it's too obvious to bring up, is that you have to partition your hard disk to add space for Linux. Don't expect to be able to boot and run Fedora from a file in your Windows system (I think Ubuntu supports doing this if it's what you really want, but you'd need to ask elsewhere about that).
poc
One important bit of info: Put the OS ISO image on a FAT32 partition. Avoid NTFS. The install doc says that one can use an NTFS partition to store the iso image, but that did not work for me. Vista is installed in an NTFS partition and you may not be able to access the image there.
I suggest two options: (a) in your PC's hard drive, create a fat32 partition and put the OS ISO image there, or (b) put the image in an usb hard drive, then boot with the usb stick and select Hard Drive as the install method. To access the OS ISO image use a relative path to its location, for example: if the path to it is C:\mydir\fedora.iso, you use "mydir/fedora.iso"
The above is clearly outlined in the F9 documentation, section 6.2: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/install-guide/f9/en_US/sn-installing-from-hard...
I suggest you save your data from the Vista partition. ~af
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