---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
ANTISPAM UOL » TIRA-TEIMA Olá,
Você enviou uma mensagem para petsupermarket@uol.com.br Para que sua mensagem seja encaminhada, por favor, clique aqui
Esta confirmação é necessária porque petsupermarket@uol.com.br usa o Antispam UOL, um programa que elimina mensagens enviadas por robôs, como pornografia, propaganda e correntes.
As próximas mensagens enviadas para petsupermarket@uol.com.br não precisarão ser confirmadas*. *Caso você receba outro pedido de confirmação, por favor, peça para petsupermarket@uol.com.br incluÃ-lo em sua lista de autorizados.
Atenção! Se você não conseguir clicar no atalho acima, acesse este endereço: http://tira-teima.as.uol.com.br/challengeSender.html?data=DRiCCD%2FZjgOUQLMJ... ________________________________ Hi,
You´ve just sent a message to petsupermarket@uol.com.br In order to confirm the sent message, please click here
This confirmation is necessary because petsupermarket@uol.com.br uses Antispam UOL, a service that avoids unwanted messages like advertising, pornography, viruses, and spams.
Other messages sent to petsupermarket@uol.com.br won't need to be confirmed*. *If you receive another confirmation request, please ask petsupermarket@uol.com.br to include you in his/her authorized e-mail list.
Warning! If the link doesn´t work, please copy the address below and paste it on your browser: http://tira-teima.as.uol.com.br/challengeSender.html?data=DRiCCD%2FZjgOUQLMJ... Use o AntiSpam UOL e proteja sua caixa postal
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Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
ANTISPAM UOL » TIRA-TEIMA Olá,
Você enviou uma mensagem para petsupermarket@uol.com.br Para que sua mensagem seja encaminhada, por favor, clique aqui
Esta confirmação é necessária porque petsupermarket@uol.com.br usa o Antispam UOL, um programa que elimina mensagens enviadas por robôs, como pornografia, propaganda e correntes.
As próximas mensagens enviadas para petsupermarket@uol.com.br não precisarão ser confirmadas*. *Caso você receba outro pedido de confirmação, por favor, peça para petsupermarket@uol.com.br incluÃ-lo em sua lista de autorizados.
Atenção! Se você não conseguir clicar no atalho acima, acesse este endereço: http://tira-teima.as.uol.com.br/challengeSender.html?data=DRiCCD%2FZjgOUQLMJ... ________________________________ Hi,
You´ve just sent a message to petsupermarket@uol.com.br In order to confirm the sent message, please click here
This confirmation is necessary because petsupermarket@uol.com.br uses Antispam UOL, a service that avoids unwanted messages like advertising, pornography, viruses, and spams.
Other messages sent to petsupermarket@uol.com.br won't need to be confirmed*. *If you receive another confirmation request, please ask petsupermarket@uol.com.br to include you in his/her authorized e-mail list.
Warning! If the link doesn´t work, please copy the address below and paste it on your browser: http://tira-teima.as.uol.com.br/challengeSender.html?data=DRiCCD%2FZjgOUQLMJ... Use o AntiSpam UOL e proteja sua caixa postal
Testing 1..2..3..4
Just checking to see if I get the plague too...
James
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Ok, it is back again. Can we figure out who is doing this and tell them they need to fix it. I do know many people are ignorant of the fact some ISP's are doing this without their customer's OK... which they have a right to do.
My next step may be to email the ISP provider directly to let them know that some of their users are subscribing to public lists with 100's if not 1000's of subscribers and it would be IMPOSSIBLE for them to add everyone to their list without taking over their servers.
James
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 10:45 -0500, James Kosin wrote:
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Ok, it is back again. Can we figure out who is doing this and tell them they need to fix it. I do know many people are ignorant of the fact some ISP's are doing this without their customer's OK...
Not very many. I know a couple users who use those services specifically - though not for list traffic.
I just add the addresses those messages come from to my blacklist - and they bother me no more.
James Kosin wrote:
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Ok, it is back again. Can we figure out who is doing this and tell them they need to fix it.
[snip]
Yes, we can. I have already suggested two means by which the list managers can do this.
Mike
James Kosin wrote:
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Ok, it is back again. Can we figure out who is doing this and tell them they need to fix it.
It doesn't seem to be Peter Whalley this time.
If they're reading their bounces, they know:-)
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:11 +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM
If you'd included the full headers, it *may* have been of use to someone here to determine the how and why this is happening, and possibly some way to deal with it.
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Tim wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:11 +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM
If you'd included the full headers, it *may* have been of use to someone here to determine the how and why this is happening, and possibly some way to deal with it.
No, I looked at the headers, there wasn't anything useful other than it definitely came from uol.com.br domain. Other than that, the original sender is using a private special IP or hiding their originating IP with a BOGUS one and there is no originating email address other than petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br ....
James
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:11 +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
It's time to block everything @uol.com.br.
Gilboa
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 18:14 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:11 +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
It's time to block everything @uol.com.br.
no no - just blacklist
*.sspam@uol.com.br
IE in user_prefs (for spamassassin):
blacklist_from *.sspam@uol.com.br
That way - you can receive legitimate e-mail from user@uol.com.br - it's only the automated responses from their spam challenge that gets rejected.
On 11/30/05, Michael A. Peters mpeters@mac.com wrote:
no no - just blacklist *.sspam@uol.com.br IE in user_prefs (for spamassassin): blacklist_from *.sspam@uol.com.br That way - you can receive legitimate e-mail from user@uol.com.br - it's only the automated responses from their spam challenge that gets rejected.
Chances are that this might not work as expected. Receiving message from xyz@uol.com.br will be fine, but xyz will not receive your message or the list message, until you respond to the spam challenge.
vjp
-- Registered Linux User #374218
Minister of Offense, Preserver of the Way of the Great Llama, Ambassador to India for the Republic of Loungevania
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 23:08 +0530, V P wrote:
On 11/30/05, Michael A. Peters mpeters@mac.com wrote:
no no - just blacklist *.sspam@uol.com.br IE in user_prefs (for spamassassin): blacklist_from *.sspam@uol.com.br That way - you can receive legitimate e-mail from user@uol.com.br - it's only the automated responses from their spam challenge that gets rejected.
Chances are that this might not work as expected. Receiving message from xyz@uol.com.br will be fine, but xyz will not receive your message or the list message, until you respond to the spam challenge.
That's their problem - not mine.
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Michael A. Peters wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 23:08 +0530, V P wrote:
On 11/30/05, Michael A. Peters mpeters@mac.com wrote:
no no - just blacklist *.sspam@uol.com.br IE in user_prefs (for spamassassin): blacklist_from *.sspam@uol.com.br That way - you can receive legitimate e-mail from user@uol.com.br - it's only the automated responses from their spam challenge that gets rejected.
Chances are that this might not work as expected. Receiving message from xyz@uol.com.br will be fine, but xyz will not receive your message or the list message, until you respond to the spam challenge.
That's their problem - not mine.
I'm going to refuse all mail from uol.com.br .... There users are abusing their service and doing a disservice to both them and the users.
James
From: "Michael A. Peters" mpeters@mac.com
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 18:14 +0200, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:11 +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
It's time to block everything @uol.com.br.
no no - just blacklist
*.sspam@uol.com.br
IE in user_prefs (for spamassassin):
blacklist_from *.sspam@uol.com.br
That way - you can receive legitimate e-mail from user@uol.com.br - it's only the automated responses from their spam challenge that gets rejected.
If you are a private user running your own blocking the entire uol.com.br is probably worthless. If you run an ISP then you must, perforce, forward their denial of service attacks called Challenge/Response messages if you are to be fully compliant with the RFCs. Some one of your customers may need to contact some poor honest sucker at uol.com.br. So let them.
In my case, I don't have to. I have uol.com.br trapped to a ~/mail/uol_crap mail file. I just checked it. (First time in quite awhile.) It contained exactly one message, a spam. So I did not miss anything important at all. The C/R's simply get tagged as spam here and I ignore them. I quit simply ignoring them when I got over 6 C/R messages from UOL for each message to this list - all from petsupermart or whatever it was. THAT earns an entry in .procmailrc diverting the email to a "check it once in a great while" repository.
{^_^}
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:11 +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
People - this has been hashed and rehashed on the list countless times.
Just make a rule to delete this crap. Whether it's with Evolution, Outlook/Outlook Express, procmail, Thunderbird or whatever, please just set up a rule to delete this trash.
Everyone including the list admin knows this is a problem, but it is impossible to determine who the offending user is for reasons previously discussed.
Posting this kind of stuff to the list is just exacerbating the problem.
Thomas
Thomas Cameron wrote:
On Wed, 2005-11-30 at 15:11 +0000, Paul Smith wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
People - this has been hashed and rehashed on the list countless times.
Just make a rule to delete this crap. Whether it's with Evolution, Outlook/Outlook Express, procmail, Thunderbird or whatever, please just set up a rule to delete this trash.
Everyone including the list admin knows this is a problem, but it is impossible to determine who the offending user is for reasons previously discussed.
It is not impossible to find out which subscriber is responsible for this.
Here is one of the headers:
From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: RE: Re: Getting a text file rid of all superfluous blank lines To: phhs80 phhs80@gmail.com
If the list manager sends each subscriber one (1) one message with a subject matter dependent on the subscriber, like
Subject: This message sent to Mike.McCarty@sbcglobal.net
then a few challenges would come back, each identifying a subscriber.
I, for one, am willing to put up with one (1) one message like that in order to fix this.
Posting this kind of stuff to the list is just exacerbating the problem.
Thomas
Hopefully, this one message clarifies a misconception you have.
Mike
Mike McCarty wrote:
From: AntiSpam UOL petsupermarket.sspam@uol.com.br Date: Nov 30, 2005 3:01 PM
Mine was for a different user at uol. I set up a header check in postfix to bounce Fom:.*AntiSpam.*uol.com.br which I figure should do the job.