Can I freeze Java

[ToddAndMargo]

Hi All,

Fedora 30,

A customer with one of those $$$$ custom programs is getting
a pop up

https://ibb.co/gZ6TZsb

telling him he is going to have to start paying for Java.

The software vendor have an update to switch from Java
to Open Java, but the vendor's QC is horrendous and
the customer does not want to spend the money, which
is considerable, and have things come out worse.  He
has been down that path before.

Is there a way to just freeze the Java version at
what he has?

And will it affect updating to Fedora 31 or future
Fedora updates after that?

Many thanks,
-T

[Deepak Bhole]

On Thu., Feb. 13, 2020, 15:12 ToddAndMargo via users, <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 30,
>
> A customer with one of those $$$$ custom programs is getting
> a pop up
>  https://ibb.co/gZ6TZsb
>
> telling him he is going to have to start paying for Java.
>
> The software vendor have an update to switch from Java
> to Open Java, but the vendor's QC is horrendous and
> the customer does not want to spend the money, which
> is considerable, and have things come out worse.  He
> has been down that path before.
>
> Is there a way to just freeze the Java version at
> what he has?
>
> And will it affect updating to Fedora 31 or future
> Fedora updates after that?

That popup only applies to Oracle JDK. If your customer is using it, they
must be using Oracle JDK. They can choose to disable updating it; that
action is unrelated to Fedora, which does not distribute Oracle JDK.

Deepak
> Many thanks,
> -T
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[Seth Kenlon]

This website: http://adoptopenjdk.net has pretty much changed my life with
regards to Java. It's so much better and clearer than anything Oracle or
Sun ever had for installing Java. You should see if your customer/client is
interested in adopting (or at least testing) OpenJDK instead.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:12 AM ToddAndMargo via users <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 30,
>
> A customer with one of those $$$$ custom programs is getting
> a pop up
>  https://ibb.co/gZ6TZsb
>
> telling him he is going to have to start paying for Java.
>
> The software vendor have an update to switch from Java
> to Open Java, but the vendor's QC is horrendous and
> the customer does not want to spend the money, which
> is considerable, and have things come out worse.  He
> has been down that path before.
>
> Is there a way to just freeze the Java version at
> what he has?
>
> And will it affect updating to Fedora 31 or future
> Fedora updates after that?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T
>
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
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[Deepak Bhole]

* Seth Kenlon  [2020-02-26 12:20]:
> This website: http://adoptopenjdk.net has pretty much changed my life with
> regards to Java. It's so much better and clearer than anything Oracle or
> Sun ever had for installing Java. You should see if your customer/client is
> interested in adopting (or at least testing) OpenJDK instead.

AdoptOpenJDK is perfectly fine to use, but is there a specific reason why you
would recommend it over the OpenJDK packages already in Fedora? The Fedora
packages are a preferred way as they are easier to update and they are
dynamically built, which can potentially provide better security.

If version needs to be frozen after install, it can be added to the dnf exclude
list.

Deepak
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:12 AM ToddAndMargo via users <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Fedora 30,
> >
> > A customer with one of those $$$$ custom programs is getting
> > a pop up
> >  https://ibb.co/gZ6TZsb
> >
> > telling him he is going to have to start paying for Java.
> >
> > The software vendor have an update to switch from Java
> > to Open Java, but the vendor's QC is horrendous and
> > the customer does not want to spend the money, which
> > is considerable, and have things come out worse.  He
> > has been down that path before.
> >
> > Is there a way to just freeze the Java version at
> > what he has?
> >
> > And will it affect updating to Fedora 31 or future
> > Fedora updates after that?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > -T
> >
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
> > Fedora Code of Conduct:
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
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[ToddAndMargo]

On 2020-02-26 09:18, Seth Kenlon wrote:
> You should see if your customer/client is interested in adopting (or at 
> least testing) OpenJDK instead.

The client had a very bad and expensive experience with the vendor's 
updates before, so he will just pay the license
fee for Java