thank you red Hat

[Jack Bowling]

I don't want this to come off as some dopey cheerleading. But I'm just
happy Red Hat decided that forking the former RHL into commercial and 
open-source entities was worth their time. They could just as easily
have picked up their ball and gone to court the enterprise crowd. But
they didn't. And that says everything to me.

[Rodrigo Del C. Andrade]

Amen to that.
    It made worthwhile all the args I had with SuSe and Debian ppl at 
college and work over the time

Vantroy

Jack Bowling wrote:
> I don't want this to come off as some dopey cheerleading. But I'm just
> happy Red Hat decided that forking the former RHL into commercial and 
> open-source entities was worth their time. They could just as easily
> have picked up their ball and gone to court the enterprise crowd. But
> they didn't. And that says everything to me.

[Howard Owen]

I second that!

And I don't fault them for being hard nosed about their revenue stream.
I'm astonished ans delighted that they have finally found a way to make 
money from free (as in beer AND in freedom) software. If they continue
to pull profitable quarters out of such a dismal economy, they 
will have vindicated Free Software as a viable base for business. And 
though supporting the communities surrounding that software is critical
to their products, I get the strong impression that they are doing it
first and foremost because they believe it's The Right Thing To Do. 
Way to go!

Now, if you could just drop the price .. 8)

On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 22:14, Jack Bowling wrote:
> I don't want this to come off as some dopey cheerleading. But I'm just
> happy Red Hat decided that forking the former RHL into commercial and 
> open-source entities was worth their time. They could just as easily
> have picked up their ball and gone to court the enterprise crowd. But
> they didn't. And that says everything to me.

[Gerry Tool]

And another thanks for putting together an easy to install, functional
beta distribution.  After a few hiccups everything I really need is
working great.

I also think the fedora.redhat.com site is very well done and it was
definitely worth waiting for.

Gerry Tool

[Rik van Riel]

On 25 Sep 2003, Howard Owen wrote:
> I get the strong impression that they are doing it first and foremost
> because they believe it's The Right Thing To Do.  Way to go!

While that's true, it's not the only reason.  Fedora is
also done because people believe it is a necessary thing
to do.

I mean, how could you have an open source product without
open source development ?

[Buck]

Pardon my ignorance, but how do you mean free as in beer and freedom?

I think I understand what you are saying, but not enough to define it
for someone else.

Thanks,
Buck

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On Behalf Of Howard Owen
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:46 AM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: thank you red Hat

I second that!
SNIP

[Buck]

I know Red Hat has been seeing me waiver a bit as I try to sort this all
out, but I, at least in principal, agree with the author.  Red Hat's
decision is a good business decision.  It lets them focus on their
profit operation and supports the open source project for the rest of
us.  It may be due to selfish motivation, i.e. they can benefit from it,
but unless I am wrong, they could have left the Fedora project in a
position where it doesn't release an actual Linux but gives them the
open source code to work with.  (No doubt, I'll be corrected or
clarified here).

Buck

[Karsten Wade]

On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 13:05, Buck wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance, but how do you mean free as in beer and freedom?

The English language lacks here, only having one word "free" and two
entirely different meanings.  The free software movement has adopted the
phrase, "Free as in speech, not free as in beer."

Free as in speech, cf. libre in Spanish, is about freedom.

Free as in beer, cf. gratis in Spanish, is about not paying for
something.  It's also about a good time. :)

- Karsten
> I think I understand what you are saying, but not enough to define it
> for someone else.
>
> Thanks,
> Buck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
> On Behalf Of Howard Owen
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:46 AM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: thank you red Hat
>
> I second that!
> SNIP
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