Boot loader after upgrade

[Adam Tong]

Hi,

I upgraded my fedora 12 to 13 and then F13 to F14. I used the instructions for the desktop version in these two pages:

http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-from-fedora-12-to-fedora-13-desktop...

http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-from-fedora-13-to-fedora-14-desktop...

Which are basically the same for both upgrades.

Now in the boot loader I have 3 choices: F14, F13 and Other which is windoze.
I can boot from both F13 and F14, they work properly. F13 desktop is the same know as F14 but when I check the version in terminal (uname -a), I get F13.

I'm not sure what I did wrong. Is there anyway to keep only F14 and get rid of F13?

Thank you

[JB]

Adam Tong <helpcomm <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> ...

just edit
# vi /etc/grub.conf 
and reboot.
If it still does not work, post grub.conf here.
JB

[Joe Zeff]

On 03/26/2011 11:47 AM, JB wrote:
> Adam Tong<helpcomm<at>  yahoo.com>  writes:
> > ...
>
> just edit
> # vi /etc/grub.conf
> and reboot.
> If it still does not work, post grub.conf here.

I don't want to start a holy war, but suggesting that a newcomer use vi 
without making sure they know how to use it can be a formula for 
disaster; it's not exactly new-user friendly.  Adam, if you're not 
familiar with vi, consider using nano, as it's got all of the most 
common commands right at the bottom of the screen for you.  (Hint: ^G is 
a very, very old computer shortcut for Ctrl-G.)  That's not to say you 
shouldn't use vi if that's what you like, just that nano is easier to 
use if you've never seen either of them in use before.

[g]

On 03/26/2011 07:18 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
<>
> I don't want to start a holy war, but suggesting that a newcomer use vi

someone not being familiar with setting up grub.conf, does not mean they
are a "newcomer".

<>
> (Hint: ^G is a very, very old computer shortcut for Ctrl-G.)

shortcut?

how about "another way to represent", aka, "synonym", like using;

"control + g", or, ^g, or, ctrl-g, or, <ctrl+g>.

also note, i am using lower case, 'g', where as upper case, 'G', might
imply to some that "shift key", <shft> key needs to be pressed.

[Joe Zeff]

On 03/26/2011 12:38 PM, g wrote:
> someone not being familiar with setting up grub.conf, does not mean they
> are a "newcomer".

Maybe not, but IMO, it's best not to assume too much knowledge.  If it 
were me, I'd simply suggest that the OP use their favorite non-GUI text 
editor and leave it at that unless they ask for suggestions.

As I've mentioned other times, I also infest fedoraforum.org.  I've seen 
posters go the extra mile by posting step-by-step instructions how to 
use vi to make an edit, just to be sure.  Of course, that's on a 
website, where people can simply ignore the parts that don't interest 
them.  Here on a mailing list, it's a tad less convenient, and I 
wouldn't expect it.  (Hell, I didn't really expect it there, either.)

[Adam Tong]

Hi,

The thread is very old. The problem I posted was that I had Three choices 
instead of just 2 during startup. After upgrading from fedora 13 to 14 I found 
that I have fedora 14 and Fedora 13, in addition to other (i have a win 
partition). A week ago i did a yum update, and i found an additional entry in 
the boat loader again. So now i'm doing finally the follow up. Here is the 
content of my /etc/grub.conf:
---
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
#          root (hd0,1)
#          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
#          initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sda
default=0
timeout=10
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE)
        root (hd0,1)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE ro 
root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 
KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE.img
title Fedora (2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE)
        root (hd0,1)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE ro 
root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 
KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE.img
title Fedora (2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE)
        root (hd0,1)
        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE ro 
root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 
KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
        initrd /initramfs-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE.img
title Other
        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
        chainloader +1

---

Thank you

----- Original Message ----
From: JB 
To: [e-mail]
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:47:01 PM
Subject: Re: Boot loader after upgrade

Adam Tong <helpcomm <at> yahoo.com> writes:
> ...

just edit
# vi /etc/grub.conf 
and reboot.
If it still does not work, post grub.conf here.
JB

[Kam Leo]

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Adam Tong  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The thread is very old. The problem I posted was that I had Three choices
> instead of just 2 during startup. After upgrading from fedora 13 to 14 I found
> that I have fedora 14 and Fedora 13, in addition to other (i have a win
> partition). A week ago i did a yum update, and i found an additional entry in
> the boat loader again. So now i'm doing finally the follow up. Here is the
> content of my /etc/grub.conf:
>
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> #
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> # NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
> #          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
> #          root (hd0,1)
> #          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
> #          initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=0
> timeout=10
> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> hiddenmenu
> title Fedora (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE)
>        root (hd0,1)
>        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
>        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE.img
> title Fedora (2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE)
>        root (hd0,1)
>        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
>        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE.img
> title Fedora (2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE)
>        root (hd0,1)
>        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
>        initrd /initramfs-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE.img
> title Other
>        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
>        chainloader +1
>
> Thank you

When you upgraded from F13 to F14 the upgrade left a F13 kernel.
(Think of it as a precaution.)

Here is a simple way to remove that extra kernel without editing
skills or usage of a gui:

1. Boot F14.

2. If in Gnome or KDE or other desktop open a terminal.

3. Do "yum list kernel* "

4. Remove undesired installed kernel via "sudo yum remove kernel_____ "

Yum/rpm will take care of/remove the grub entry.

[Kam Leo]

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Kam Leo  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Adam Tong  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The thread is very old. The problem I posted was that I had Three choices
> > instead of just 2 during startup. After upgrading from fedora 13 to 14 I found
> > that I have fedora 14 and Fedora 13, in addition to other (i have a win
> > partition). A week ago i did a yum update, and i found an additional entry in
> > the boat loader again. So now i'm doing finally the follow up. Here is the
> > content of my /etc/grub.conf:
> >
> > # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> > #
> > # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> > # NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
> > #          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
> > #          root (hd0,1)
> > #          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
> > #          initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
> > #boot=/dev/sda
> > default=0
> > timeout=10
> > splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> > hiddenmenu
> > title Fedora (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE)
> >        root (hd0,1)
> >        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE ro
> > root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> > KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
> >        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE.img
> > title Fedora (2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE)
> >        root (hd0,1)
> >        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE ro
> > root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> > KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
> >        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE.img
> > title Fedora (2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE)
> >        root (hd0,1)
> >        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE ro
> > root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> > KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
> >        initrd /initramfs-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE.img
> > title Other
> >        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> >        chainloader +1
> >
> > Thank you
>
> When you upgraded from F13 to F14 the upgrade left a F13 kernel.
> (Think of it as a precaution.)
>
> Here is a simple way to remove that extra kernel without editing
> skills or usage of a gui:
>
> Boot F14.
>
> If in Gnome or KDE or other desktop open a terminal.
>
> Do "yum list kernel* "
>
> Remove undesired installed kernel via "sudo yum remove kernel_____ "
>
> Yum/rpm will take care of/remove the grub entry.

I forgot to mention that there was nothing wrong with your upgrade
from F13 to F14.  Do "man uname" and you will understand.

[Adam Tong]

Here is the result of the first command:
----
# yum list kernel
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
Available Packages
kernel.i686                                             
2.6.35.13-91.fc14                                             updates
----

So in that case I have just one kernel?!!

----- Original Message ----
From: Kam Leo 
To: Community support for Fedora users 
Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 10:34:25 PM
Subject: Re: Boot loader after upgrade

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Adam Tong  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The thread is very old. The problem I posted was that I had Three choices
> instead of just 2 during startup. After upgrading from fedora 13 to 14 I found
> that I have fedora 14 and Fedora 13, in addition to other (i have a win
> partition). A week ago i did a yum update, and i found an additional entry in
> the boat loader again. So now i'm doing finally the follow up. Here is the
> content of my /etc/grub.conf:
>
> # grub.conf generated by anaconda
> #
> # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
> # NOTICE:  You have a /boot partition.  This means that
> #          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg.
> #          root (hd0,1)
> #          kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root
> #          initrd /initrd-[generic-]version.img
> #boot=/dev/sda
> default=0
> timeout=10
> splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> hiddenmenu
> title Fedora (2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE)
>        root (hd0,1)
>        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
>        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.i686.PAE.img
> title Fedora (2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE)
>        root (hd0,1)
>        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
>        initrd /initramfs-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.i686.PAE.img
> title Fedora (2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE)
>        root (hd0,1)
>        kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE ro
> root=/dev/mapper/VolGroup-lv_root  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16
> KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=fr rhgb quiet
>        initrd /initramfs-2.6.34.8-68.fc13.i686.PAE.img
> title Other
>        rootnoverify (hd0,0)
>        chainloader +1
>
> Thank you

When you upgraded from F13 to F14 the upgrade left a F13 kernel.
(Think of it as a precaution.)

Here is a simple way to remove that extra kernel without editing
skills or usage of a gui:

1. Boot F14.

2. If in Gnome or KDE or other desktop open a terminal.

3. Do "yum list kernel* "

4. Remove undesired installed kernel via "sudo yum remove kernel_____ "

Yum/rpm will take care of/remove the grub entry.

[Kam Leo]

On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Adam Tong  wrote:
> Here is the result of the first command:
>
> # yum list kernel
> Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
> Available Packages
> kernel.i686
> 2.6.35.13-91.fc14                                             updates
>
> So in that case I have just one kernel?!!

No!  You left out the trailing asterisk; i.e. kernel*