10:40 p.m.
I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now
can't find the URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
Dave
--
It is told that such are the aerodynamics and wing loading of the
bumblebee that, in principle, it cannot fly...if all this be
true...life among bumblebees must bear a remarkable resemblance to
life in the United States.
-- John Kenneth Galbraith, in American Capitalism: The Concept of
Countervailing Power
10:43 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
Dave,
The boxed set is no longer available. Instead, just download a DVD or CD image from
http://fedoraproject.org/
If you want a vendor supported version, then goto Red Hat (redhat.com) where you can buy
an expensive, well supported version of Linux.
Regards,
David
David Wiener
Senior Analyst
Duke School of Medicine
919-684-6395
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To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: OT: red hat?
I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now
can't find the URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
Dave
--
It is told that such are the aerodynamics and wing loading of the
bumblebee that, in principle, it cannot fly...if all this be
true...life among bumblebees must bear a remarkable resemblance to
life in the United States.
-- John Kenneth Galbraith, in American Capitalism: The Concept of
Countervailing Power
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11:05 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
Quoting "David S. Wiener" <david.s.wiener(a)duke.edu>:
Dave,
The boxed set is no longer available. Instead, just download a DVD
or CD image from http://fedoraproject.org/
If you want a vendor supported version, then goto Red Hat
(redhat.com) where you can buy an expensive, well supported version
of Linux.
Regards,
David
nono a physical wool felt hat I can put on my head to keep warm.
d
David Wiener
Senior Analyst
Duke School of Medicine
919-684-6395
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:40 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: OT: red hat?
I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now
can't find the URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
Dave
--
It is told that such are the aerodynamics and wing loading of the
bumblebee that, in principle, it cannot fly...if all this be
true...life among bumblebees must bear a remarkable resemblance to
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5:42 a.m.
New subject: red hat?
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On 04/13/2012 11:30 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
> nono a physical wool felt hat I can put on my head to keep warm.
Probably you have to buy a subscription to a hat nowdays ;-)
Alan
I would gladly buy clothes by subscription if it was a good service
offering.
Mine always end up falling apart while I'm wearing them.
Bryn.
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12:40 p.m.
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On 2012/04/13 03:42, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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On 04/13/2012 11:30 AM, Alan Cox wrote:
>> nono a physical wool felt hat I can put on my head to keep warm.
>
> Probably you have to buy a subscription to a hat nowdays ;-)
>
> Alan
I would gladly buy clothes by subscription if it was a good service
offering.
Mine always end up falling apart while I'm wearing them.
Bryn.
It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
{O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good straight-line is safe.)
4:04 a.m.
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It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
{O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
straight-line is safe.)
Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
mechanical agitation and all that ;).
Bryn.
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4:22 a.m.
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On 2012/04/16 02:04, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>
> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
> straight-line is safe.)
Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
mechanical agitation and all that ;).
Bryn.
Dirt embedded within the fabric causes more wear with flexing. And some
"gunk" that gets on shirts dries stiffly leading to high stress points
at the edges of the dried gunk - like Elmer's Glue, cyano-acrylate, and
other fun stuff you might find yourself playing with.
You have raised an interesting question that is incredibly far off topic.
Is there an optimum time to wash clothing relative to accumulated dirt of
various types irrespective of odors generated?
{^_-}
1:07 a.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 04/16/2012 05:22 AM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/04/16 02:04, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>
>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>> straight-line is safe.)
>
> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>
> Bryn.
Dirt embedded within the fabric causes more wear with flexing. And some
"gunk" that gets on shirts dries stiffly leading to high stress points
at the edges of the dried gunk - like Elmer's Glue, cyano-acrylate, and
other fun stuff you might find yourself playing with.
You have raised an interesting question that is incredibly far off topic.
Is there an optimum time to wash clothing relative to accumulated dirt of
various types irrespective of odors generated?
Since that was my industry for 26 years, no. Depends on the nature of
the stain (animal fat, petroleum, mineral or protein) and the pH of it.
I guess as a rule of thumb, anything shorter than 8-10 minutes just in
the wash cycle (not subsequent rinses, etc) is a waste of resources. It
takes time, with the proper chemicals, temperatures and mechanical
action. Enzymes take even longer, 15 minutes or more, at skin
temperature. They have all kinds of bugs that will eat just about
anything, leaving the fabric completely intact. They will also eat you.
Leave that one to professionals.
Since we are TOTALLY offtopic I'll share this one with everyone. Take 1
part of nail polish remover (acetate based) and 10 parts liquid
detergent to make a spotter that will get rid of just about any tough
stain, including set ink, if you work it gently and long enough. Enjoy! Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
9:28 a.m.
New subject: red hat?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>
> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
> straight-line is safe.)
Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
mechanical agitation and all that ;).
I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
--
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Do you not know? Have you not heard?
The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom.
----------------------------- Isaiah 40:28 (niv) -----------------------------
1:37 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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>
> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>
>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>> straight-line is safe.)
>
> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
<Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
washing machine? Why not?
{^_-}
2:18 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:37:33AM -0700, jdow wrote:
On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>Hash: SHA1
>>
>>On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>
>>>{O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>straight-line is safe.)
>>
>>Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>
>I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
<Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
washing machine? Why not?
tying back to RH: I was specifically thinking of the red fedora when I
suggested dry cleaning.
--
---- Fred Smith -- fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us -----------------------------
"For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his
glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior
be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before
all ages, now and forevermore! Amen."
----------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 (niv) -----------------------------
2:24 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
Once upon a time, fred smith <fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> said:
tying back to RH: I was specifically thinking of the red fedora when
I
suggested dry cleaning.
My local dry cleaners that I trust wouldn't take my red fedora - they
said they weren't set up to handle it.
--
Chris Adams <cmadams(a)hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
1:16 a.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 04/16/2012 03:24 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, fred smith<fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us>
said:
> tying back to RH: I was specifically thinking of the red fedora when I
> suggested dry cleaning.
My local dry cleaners that I trust wouldn't take my red fedora - they
said they weren't set up to handle it.
If it bled it would wreck the perc (dry cleaning fluid) and then they
would have to distill it all to remove the dye. Any sort of washing will
remove the starch/sizing and then lose the finish and shape. If it's
made from blocked felt then it would be completely wrecked and
worthless. You can attempt to lightly brush it clean. Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
2:31 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 2012/04/16 12:18, fred smith wrote:
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:37:33AM -0700, jdow wrote:
> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>>>
>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>
>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>
>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>
>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
>
> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
> work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
> suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
> find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
> washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
> <Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
>
> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
> washing machine? Why not?
tying back to RH: I was specifically thinking of the red fedora when I
suggested dry cleaning.
A yes. That would be appropriate, methinks.
(Now I need a little Raspberry PI to monitor the washing machine and drier
so it can send a wireless message to the computer room telling me the laundry
is done. I like that idea I tossed off at random.)
{^_-}
2:55 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
Quoting jdow <jdow(a)earthlink.net>:
On 2012/04/16 12:18, fred smith wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:37:33AM -0700, jdow wrote:
>> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>>
>>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>>
>>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>>
>>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
>>
>> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
>> work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
>> suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
>> find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
>> washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
>> <Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
>>
>> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
>> washing machine? Why not?
>
> tying back to RH: I was specifically thinking of the red fedora when I
> suggested dry cleaning.
A yes. That would be appropriate, methinks.
(Now I need a little Raspberry PI to monitor the washing machine and drier
so it can send a wireless message to the computer room telling me the laundry
is done. I like that idea I tossed off at random.)
any rationale that gets me a Pi will do...
d
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1:19 a.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 04/16/2012 03:31 PM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/04/16 12:18, fred smith wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:37:33AM -0700, jdow wrote:
>> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>>
>>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>>
>>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>>
>>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
>>
>> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
>> work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
>> suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
>> find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
>> washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
>> <Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
>>
>> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
>> washing machine? Why not?
>
> tying back to RH: I was specifically thinking of the red fedora when I
> suggested dry cleaning.
A yes. That would be appropriate, methinks.
(Now I need a little Raspberry PI to monitor the washing machine and drier
so it can send a wireless message to the computer room telling me the
laundry
is done. I like that idea I tossed off at random.)
We computerized huge laundry operations and the owner liked the fact
that he could be on his sail boat using his laptop watching the fill
valves open, drain valves dump and the chemicals being pumped, total run
time and costs from a live HTML page. Nice little niche market. :) Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
3:20 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 4/16/2012 2:37 PM, jdow wrote:
On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>
>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>
>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>
> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
<Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
washing machine? Why not?
Before the advent of soap/detergent what was used as a cleaning
component? How did a Roman keep their toga fresh and clean? :-)
--Hal.
4:16 p.m.
New subject: way OT: Re: red hat?
Quoting Hal <hal(a)faams.net>:
On 4/16/2012 2:37 PM, jdow wrote:
> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>
>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>
>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>
>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
>
> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
> work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
> suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
> find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
> washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
> <Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
>
> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
> washing machine? Why not?
>
Before the advent of soap/detergent what was used as a cleaning
component? How did a Roman keep their toga fresh and clean? :-)
--Hal.
the earliest intro to soapmaking I had was pouring rendered fat
through ashes to get soap out. I suppose lye and fat will do it,
doesn't seem very high tech.
here: http://www.delcitysoap.com/soaprecipe.htm
d
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6:56 p.m.
New subject: way OT: Re: red hat?
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 14:16:25 -0700,
Dave Stevens <geek(a)uniserve.com> wrote:
the earliest intro to soapmaking I had was pouring rendered fat
through ashes to get soap out. I suppose lye and fat will do it,
doesn't seem very high tech.
Be sure not to use an aluminum strainer when making lye soap.
1:21 a.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 04/16/2012 04:20 PM, Hal wrote:
On 4/16/2012 2:37 PM, jdow wrote:
> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>
>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>
>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>
>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
>
> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
> work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
> suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
> find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
> washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
> <Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
>
> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
> washing machine? Why not?
>
Before the advent of soap/detergent what was used as a cleaning
component? How did a Roman keep their toga fresh and clean? :-)
Too many movies. my friend. I doubt they were nice and clean. But, water
and sand will do a lot. :) Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
2:36 a.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 4/17/2012 2:21 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 04/16/2012 04:20 PM, Hal wrote:
> On 4/16/2012 2:37 PM, jdow wrote:
>> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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>>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>>
>>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>>
>>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>>
>>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
>>
>> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
>> work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
>> suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
>> find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
>> washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
>> <Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
>>
>> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora
>> controlled
>> washing machine? Why not?
>>
> Before the advent of soap/detergent what was used as a cleaning
> component? How did a Roman keep their toga fresh and clean? :-)
Too many movies. my friend. I doubt they were nice and clean. But,
water and sand will do a lot. :) Ric
Roger had the answer. The Romans used stale human URINE(Uric Acid) to
was their togas and other things. No movies my friend.
--Hal.
8:42 a.m.
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On 04/17/2012 08:36 AM, Hal wrote:
Roger had the answer. The Romans used stale human URINE(Uric Acid)
to was their togas and other things. No movies my friend.
More likely they were using stale urine for its high ammonia content.
Dried-on uric acid causes stains that are difficult to remove.
Regards,
Bryn.
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On 04/16/2012 09:20 PM, Hal wrote:
On 4/16/2012 2:37 PM, jdow wrote:
> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves
>> wrote:
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>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>
>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>
>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower
>>> (intense mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>
>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it,
>> no?
>
> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It
> MIGHT work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the
> clothing in a suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing
> detergent if you can find one with phosphates in it and really
> want clean. Ditto for dish washing, too. That's once a year
> whether they need it or not, right? <Sigh - hoists a glass
> saluting the good old days!>)
>
> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora
> controlled washing machine? Why not?
>
Before the advent of soap/detergent what was used as a cleaning
component? How did a Roman keep their toga fresh and clean? :-)
With soap of course :-)
The word soap comes from the Latin sapo, The Romans certainly
understood saponification and I think there is evidence for soap
production dating back even earlier than that (Babylonian era):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soap#Roman_history
Regards,
Bryn.
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6:09 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
Hal wrote:
On 4/16/2012 2:37 PM, jdow wrote:
> On 2012/04/16 07:28, fred smith wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:04:45AM +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> On 04/13/2012 06:40 PM, jdow wrote:
>>>> It might help if you washed them once and awhile.
>>>>
>>>> {O.O} (You should know by not I lurk here and NO good
>>>> straight-line is safe.)
>>>
>>> Washing tends to make them fall apart faster, not slower (intense
>>> mechanical agitation and all that ;).
>>
>> I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
>
> I don't think I've ever tried to get a tee-shirt dry cleaned. It MIGHT
> work. Dry clean is a third best to actually washing the clothing in a
> suitable detergent. (Best is a phosphate bearing detergent if you can
> find one with phosphates in it and really want clean. Ditto for dish
> washing, too. That's once a year whether they need it or not, right?
> <Sigh - hoists a glass saluting the good old days!>)
>
> Now, how can we tie this back to Linux? Anybody made a Fedora controlled
> washing machine? Why not?
>
Before the advent of soap/detergent what was used as a cleaning
component? How did a Roman keep their toga fresh and clean? :-)
Beaten on rocks in the river, by slaves.
--
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the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
6:16 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 04/28/2012 04:09 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Beaten on rocks in the river, by slaves.
Considering that their togas were probably wool, they were most likely
cleaned using Fuller's Earth. And, in fact, that's also used to clean
hats, bringing things around full circle.
11:49 p.m.
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I would think dry-cleaning would be the proper way to do it, no?
Nup!, according to Tony Robinson's "Worlds Dirtiest Jobs" the way to
cleanliness is to wash clothing in stale urine. It worked a treat in the
15-1600's and people got paid a farthing a day to stamp around in the
tub up to their knees.
Roger
1:54 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 11:42 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
I would gladly buy clothes by subscription if it was a good service
offering.
Mine always end up falling apart while I'm wearing them.
You buy vanity sizes instead of your real size?
You're a rock star who keeps getting mobbed?
You're a stripper?
You're The Incredible Hulk?
;-)
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2:08 p.m.
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On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 04:24:03AM +0930, Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 11:42 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> I would gladly buy clothes by subscription if it was a good service
> offering.
>
> Mine always end up falling apart while I'm wearing them.
You buy vanity sizes instead of your real size?
You're a rock star who keeps getting mobbed?
You're a stripper?
You're The Incredible Hulk?
That would explain the excessive pairs of purple pants...
;-)
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2:12 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On 04/13/2012 11:54 AM, Tim wrote:
You buy vanity sizes instead of your real size?
You're a rock star who keeps getting mobbed?
You're a stripper?
You're The Incredible Hulk?
You wear them for so many years that they finally come apart when you're
tucking them back in? (This one's happened to me, more than once. If I
like a shirt, I'll wear it, off and on, until it falls apart or
otherwise gets ruined.)
4:12 p.m.
New subject: red hat?
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:12:27 -0700
Joe Zeff wrote:
You wear them for so many years that they finally come apart when
you're
tucking them back in? (This one's happened to me, more than once. If I
like a shirt, I'll wear it, off and on, until it falls apart or
otherwise gets ruined.)
My wife gets after me sometime to throw away pants. I unfailing say, "They're
not too bad yet, lets just save them and I can use them when I'm painting or
something."
Of course, when I am actually doing some painting I just wear whatever pants I
happen to be wearing at the time anyway, but it's the principle of the thing!
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10:47 p.m.
On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now
can't find the
URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
Dave
http://co-store.com/redhatcoolstuff
Seems like they don't see the fedora any longer....
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10:51 p.m.
On 04/13/2012 11:47 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
Seems like they don't see the fedora any longer....
This is what you get when you're thinking "I don't see the fedora" and
wanting to say
"they don't sell the fedora" while watching the Colbert Report.
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of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage
11:11 p.m.
Quoting Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com>:
On 04/13/2012 11:47 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Seems like they don't see the fedora any longer....
This is what you get when you're thinking "I don't see the fedora"
and wanting to say
"they don't sell the fedora" while watching the Colbert Report.
well as far as I can see they DON'T sell the fedora, just ball caps
and beanies...
d
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2:46 a.m.
On 04/12/2012 11:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now can't find
the
> URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
>
> Dave
>
>
http://co-store.com/redhatcoolstuff
Seems like they don't see the fedora any longer....
I've still got mine, the one Bob young gave me personally! RIc
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3:12 a.m.
On 04/13/2012 03:46 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
On 04/12/2012 11:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
>> I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now can't
find the
>> URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
> http://co-store.com/redhatcoolstuff
>
> Seems like they don't see the fedora any longer....
I've still got mine, the one Bob young gave me personally! RIc
That, and 15NTD, will get you a bus ride in Taipei.
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3:45 a.m.
On 04/13/2012 04:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/13/2012 03:46 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 04/12/2012 11:47 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
>>> I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now
can't find the
>>> URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>> http://co-store.com/redhatcoolstuff
>>
>> Seems like they don't see the fedora any longer....
>
>
> I've still got mine, the one Bob young gave me personally! RIc
>
>
That, and 15NTD, will get you a bus ride in Taipei.
Heh, same with my shares at $250. I should have asked for the printed
certificates, so I'd have something to use if I ran out of toilet paper.
But, the official Red Hat Fedora was very well made. I was proud to have
gotten it from Uncle Bob. He remains a great guy. Imagine, Red Hat
started in his living room. :) Ric
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11:11 p.m.
On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now
can't find the
URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
Dave
But......
http://bit.ly/HCa5w1
May get you an alternate source......
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11:27 p.m.
Quoting Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com>:
On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and
> now can't find the
> URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
>
> Dave
>
>
But......
http://bit.ly/HCa5w1
point taken, still looking. Why would RH not want to sell people items
that advertise the RH brand????
Thanks, Ed.
D
May get you an alternate source......
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8:19 a.m.
Once upon a time, Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com> said:
On 04/13/2012 12:27 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> point taken, still looking. Why would RH not want to sell people items that
> advertise the RH brand????
Cost to stock seldom ordered products?
I believe they still have them and distribute them in various ways (e.g.
I think they gave them to RHCEs a few years ago), but they don't sell
them. I think the coolstuff store is all just stuff made by/for the
store company with logos added, so they don't carry the fedoras.
I asked the New York Hat Company (place that makes them for Red Hat)
about the red fedoras, and they said that they only do them on special
order for Red Hat.
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10:27 p.m.
On 04/12/2012 11:27 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
Quoting Ed Greshko <Ed.Greshko(a)greshko.com>:
> On 04/13/2012 11:40 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
>> I bought a red fedora from the Red Hat store a few years ago and now
>> can't find the
>> URL to order another. Anyone know where I should look?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>
> But......
>
> http://bit.ly/HCa5w1
point taken, still looking. Why would RH not want to sell people items
that advertise the RH brand????
Generally, you only get one from Red Hat when you go to work there. I
think in the past they were given away at trade shows and the like, but
now the only way I know to get one is to get hired there.
Thomas
9:04 a.m.
Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron <thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> said:
Generally, you only get one from Red Hat when you go to work there. I
think in the past they were given away at trade shows and the like, but
now the only way I know to get one is to get hired there.
I don't think they ever gave them away at trade shows (at least not that
I saw). They did sell them on redhat.com for a long time, but that
stopped when they moved the "swag" type stuff (hats, notepads, etc.) to
an outsourced site.
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11:05 a.m.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Chris Adams <cmadams(a)hiwaay.net> wrote:
Once upon a time, Thomas Cameron
<thomas.cameron(a)camerontech.com> said:
> Generally, you only get one from Red Hat when you go to work there. I
> think in the past they were given away at trade shows and the like, but
> now the only way I know to get one is to get hired there.
I don't think they ever gave them away at trade shows (at least not that
I saw). They did sell them on redhat.com for a long time, but that
stopped when they moved the "swag" type stuff (hats, notepads, etc.) to
an outsourced site.
They have given them away at the Summit and a few other places I've
seen but it isn't common. It is an expensive item for swag so usually
they are only given away at special events within the event.
For years they have been sold through brandfuel. I can see on the
Internet Archive that happened through at least August 2010. When
exactly or why it stopped I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised to
see them show up again, perhaps they are just currently out of them.
John
1:40 p.m.
Once upon a time, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> said:
For years they have been sold through brandfuel. I can see on the
Internet Archive that happened through at least August 2010. When
exactly or why it stopped I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised to
see them show up again, perhaps they are just currently out of them.
No, they haven't sold them for a while now (I even asked my RH sales
rep).
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2:35 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Chris Adams <cmadams(a)hiwaay.net> wrote:
Once upon a time, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> said:
> For years they have been sold through brandfuel. I can see on the
> Internet Archive that happened through at least August 2010. When
> exactly or why it stopped I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised to
> see them show up again, perhaps they are just currently out of them.
No, they haven't sold them for a while now (I even asked my RH sales
rep).
No what?
Brand Fuel sold them at least throughout the years 2005-2010. There is
no contradiction between that and "they haven't sold them for a while
now."
John
2:37 p.m.
Once upon a time, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> said:
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Chris Adams
<cmadams(a)hiwaay.net> wrote:
> Once upon a time, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> said:
>> For years they have been sold through brandfuel. I can see on the
>> Internet Archive that happened through at least August 2010. When
>> exactly or why it stopped I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised to
>> see them show up again, perhaps they are just currently out of them.
>
> No, they haven't sold them for a while now (I even asked my RH sales
> rep).
No what?
No, they are not just out of stock, Red Hat stopped selling them (I
asked). They haven't been available for sale for over a year now.
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