FC 8
What Fedora application can I successfully sync my Ipod with ??
Jim wrote:
Todd Zullinger wrote:
Jim wrote:
FC 8
That will be unsupported in just about a week (in case you weren't already aware of that).
What Fedora application can I successfully sync my Ipod with ??
What iPod? For models other than the new iPhone and Touch, you should be alright.
Amarok, banshee, gtkpod, and rhythmbox are just a few of the apps that should work well for managing your iPod.
Just a 8gb Ipod. Thanks.
I would recommend checking out songbird ( www.getsongbird.com ). It's got ipod integration that is fairly similar to itunes and works great.
Jim wrote:
FC 8
That will be unsupported in just about a week (in case you weren't already aware of that).
What Fedora application can I successfully sync my Ipod with ??
What iPod? For models other than the new iPhone and Touch, you should be alright.
Amarok, banshee, gtkpod, and rhythmbox are just a few of the apps that should work well for managing your iPod.
Todd Zullinger wrote:
Jim wrote:
FC 8
That will be unsupported in just about a week (in case you weren't already aware of that).
What Fedora application can I successfully sync my Ipod with ??
What iPod? For models other than the new iPhone and Touch, you should be alright.
Amarok, banshee, gtkpod, and rhythmbox are just a few of the apps that should work well for managing your iPod.
Just a 8gb Ipod. Thanks.
Endy wrote:
I would recommend checking out songbird ( www.getsongbird.com ). It's got ipod integration that is fairly similar to itunes and works great.
But songbird isn't included in Fedora, unlike the apps I mentioned. :/
Hopefully, the Songbird folks will get their patches to xulrunner upstreamed and then Songbird will be acceptable in Fedora.
They're working on it. I do know that they've sent patches to libgpod upstream (which they use for iPod integration -- just like Amarok, Gtkpod, and Rhythmbox do).
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Todd Zullinger tmz@pobox.com wrote:
Amarok, banshee, gtkpod, and rhythmbox are just a few of the apps that should work well for managing your iPod.
Amarok 2 no longer works with media players, including ipods. This is supposed to be fixed some time down the road.
poc
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Amarok 2 no longer works with media players, including ipods. This is supposed to be fixed some time down the road.
iPods are supposed to be supported, but the emphasis is on "supposed to", there are reports to the contrary. Support for MTP devices is also there in principle. Plain USB mass storage devices are currently not supported (except as regular file system directories).
Kevin Kofler
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Amarok 2 no longer works with media players, including ipods. This is supposed to be fixed some time down the road.
iPods are supposed to be supported, but the emphasis is on "supposed to", there are reports to the contrary. Support for MTP devices is also there in principle. Plain USB mass storage devices are currently not supported (except as regular file system directories).
To paraphrase the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy, this must be some strange new usage of the word "support" with which I was not previously familiar.
Amarok 2 from the standard (non-testing) Fedora repo does not support any media player, including ipods, in any shape or form. I don't mean the support doesn't work, I mean it isn't physically there.
poc
On Monday 29 December 2008 17:12:55 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Todd Zullinger tmz@pobox.com wrote:
Amarok, banshee, gtkpod, and rhythmbox are just a few of the apps that should work well for managing your iPod.
Amarok 2 no longer works with media players, including ipods. This is supposed to be fixed some time down the road.
I think I read a couple of days ago that ipod support had just been committed, so it won't have filtered down yet.
Anne
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Amarok 2 from the standard (non-testing) Fedora repo does not support any media player, including ipods, in any shape or form. I don't mean the support doesn't work, I mean it isn't physically there.
What does it link these in for then? libgpod.so.3()(64bit) libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
Kevin Kofler
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Amarok 2 from the standard (non-testing) Fedora repo does not support any media player, including ipods, in any shape or form. I don't mean the support doesn't work, I mean it isn't physically there.
What does it link these in for then? libgpod.so.3()(64bit) libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
$ ldd /usr/bin/amarok|egrep gpod|mtp $
poc
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:09:21 +1930, Patrick wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Amarok 2 from the standard (non-testing) Fedora repo does not support any media player, including ipods, in any shape or form. I don't mean the support doesn't work, I mean it isn't physically there.
What does it link these in for then? libgpod.so.3()(64bit) libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
$ ldd /usr/bin/amarok|egrep gpod|mtp $
Try again with
libamarok_collection-ipodcollection.so libamarok_collection-mtpcollection.so
;)
You can also use Yamipod
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Todd Zullinger tmz@pobox.com wrote:
Jim wrote:
FC 8
That will be unsupported in just about a week (in case you weren't already aware of that).
What Fedora application can I successfully sync my Ipod with ??
What iPod? For models other than the new iPhone and Touch, you should be alright.
Amarok, banshee, gtkpod, and rhythmbox are just a few of the apps that should work well for managing your iPod.
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On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwendt@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:09:21 +1930, Patrick wrote:
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kofler@chello.at wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Amarok 2 from the standard (non-testing) Fedora repo does not support any media player, including ipods, in any shape or form. I don't mean the support doesn't work, I mean it isn't physically there.
What does it link these in for then? libgpod.so.3()(64bit) libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
$ ldd /usr/bin/amarok|egrep gpod|mtp $
Try again with
libamarok_collection-ipodcollection.so libamarok_collection-mtpcollection.so
What do you mean? The /usr/bin/amarok binary contains no library references to anything with gpod, or ipod, or mtp in its name. Once more with feeling:
$ ldd /usr/bin/amarok|egrep gpod|ipod|mtp $ rpm -q amarok amarok-2.0-2.fc10.x86_64 $ rpm -ql amarok|egrep gpod|ipod|mtp /usr/lib64/kde4/libamarok_collection-ipodcollection.so /usr/lib64/kde4/libamarok_collection-mtpcollection.so /usr/share/kde4/services/amarok_collection-ipodcollection.desktop /usr/share/kde4/services/amarok_collection-mtpcollection.desktop $
IOW the package does contain this stuff, but the executable doesn't refer to it. Furthermore, there is no apparent way of loading plugins that I can see after extensive and careful perusal of the interface, including the Configuration dialogue.
Attempting to read the online help gives a window with: There is no documentation available for /amarok/index.html.
The main GUI window has 4 vertical tabs on the left: * Collection * Internet * Playlists * Files
In Amarok 1.x there was also a tab for external media. That no longer exists.
poc
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 11:09:56AM -0500, Jim wrote:
FC 8
What Fedora application can I successfully sync my Ipod with ??
There isn't support for the newest iPods like the 4th-generation 8GB Nanos in current libgpod, gtkpod, and rhythmbox. My wife got one of these for Christmas and I spent a significant amount of time getting it working for her.
You can find SRPMS for those here, but I've only built these for Fedora 10. You're welcome to try rebuilding them for F8 but I can't make any promises or offer tech support. Caveat emptor!
http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/libgpod-0.7.0-0.1svn2184.fc1... http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/gtkpod-0.99.13-0.1svn2184.fc...
I then rebuilt the rhythmbox already in CVS against the new libgpod, too. I would expect that you'll see some sort of update for F-9 and F-10 down the road a bit to support all these newer models.
The banshee application had some support, but: * wouldn't load podcasts * continually screwed up the cover art database
My rebuilt gtkpod thus far had the fewest problems, especially after I read the included documentation in /usr/share/gtkpod/doc/the-sysinfo-file.html.
Paul W. Frields wrote:
There isn't support for the newest iPods like the 4th-generation 8GB Nanos in current libgpod, gtkpod, and rhythmbox. My wife got one of these for Christmas and I spent a significant amount of time getting it working for her.
Other than some artwork issues, libgpod-0.6.0 should support those iPod's. The apps which use libgpod may not offer those models in their ipod selections, but the support hasn't changed much other than the artwork support -- which I understand is mostly related to cover flow.
You can find SRPMS for those here, but I've only built these for Fedora 10. You're welcome to try rebuilding them for F8 but I can't make any promises or offer tech support. Caveat emptor!
http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/libgpod-0.7.0-0.1svn2184.fc1... http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/gtkpod-0.99.13-0.1svn2184.fc...
Hey, those are some fresh builds Paul! :)
Perhaps it's better to build libgpod-0.7.0rc1 (which is just a little bit older, but upstream we'd like the testing). I've built packages, but haven't put them up anywhere yet. I'll have to build for x86_64 and post them to my fedorapeople.org account.
I'll work on building libgpod-0.7.0rc1, gtkpod-0.99.13SVN, and rhythmbox for x86_64 and post those builds along with the i386 builds that I have already done in the next few days.
I then rebuilt the rhythmbox already in CVS against the new libgpod, too. I would expect that you'll see some sort of update for F-9 and F-10 down the road a bit to support all these newer models.
We expect to have libgpod-0.7.0 released sometime in the next few weeks, FWIW. Once released, I'll build these for rawhide as quickly as possible. Hopefully after some testing there, we'll push updates back to F-10 (and *maybe* F-9).
My rebuilt gtkpod thus far had the fewest problems, especially after I read the included documentation in /usr/share/gtkpod/doc/the-sysinfo-file.html.
You really shouldn't have to do any of this manually. If you do, then there's a bug with the libgpod HAL support. I've had a few random reports of this sort, but no one yet has been able to help pinpoint what might have gone wrong so we haven't been able to find and fix any bugs that might be present there. The goal is that plugging in an iPod should cause libgpod's hal callout to setup the SysInfoExtended file automagically. Any help in identifying cases where this does not work would be greatly appreciated. I'll do my best to make sure that we get such things fixed upstream so everyone can benefit. :)
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
The main GUI window has 4 vertical tabs on the left:
- Collection
- Internet
- Playlists
- Files
How it's supposed to work is, in amarok's center pane, click '+', add "Media Devices" applet. Haven't had a chance to procure an ipod yet myself to test... ymmv.
-- Rex
Hi,
I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find hostapd for FC8 and not 10.
Much appreciated in advanced!
Alex
Support wrote:
Hi,
I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find hostapd for FC8 and not 10.
Much appreciated in advanced!
You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings. You've hijacked a thread.....
I've deleted the "References" header from this message so it should appear as a new thread.
Don't reply to a message, and change the subject to your choice.... that is hijacking. Breaks threading an gives people an upset tummy.
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:42:02 +1930, Patrick wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Amarok 2 from the standard (non-testing) Fedora repo does not support any media player, including ipods, in any shape or form. I don't mean the support doesn't work, I mean it isn't physically there.
What does it link these in for then? libgpod.so.3()(64bit) libmtp.so.8()(64bit)
$ ldd /usr/bin/amarok|egrep gpod|mtp $
Try again with
libamarok_collection-ipodcollection.so libamarok_collection-mtpcollection.so
What do you mean? The /usr/bin/amarok binary contains no library references to anything with gpod, or ipod, or mtp in its name. Once more with feeling:
$ ldd /usr/bin/amarok|egrep gpod|ipod|mtp $ rpm -q amarok amarok-2.0-2.fc10.x86_64 $ rpm -ql amarok|egrep gpod|ipod|mtp /usr/lib64/kde4/libamarok_collection-ipodcollection.so /usr/lib64/kde4/libamarok_collection-mtpcollection.so /usr/share/kde4/services/amarok_collection-ipodcollection.desktop /usr/share/kde4/services/amarok_collection-mtpcollection.desktop $
IOW the package does contain this stuff, but the executable doesn't refer to it.
ldd /usr/bin/amarok is insufficient if you want to prove that. Examine libamaroklib.so.1.0.0, its symbols and what it is linked with. If you don't want to use objdump and similar, even using "strings" reveals something. It may be necessary to skim over the source code to find out how and when these plugins are activated.
On Wed, 2008-12-31 at 14:06 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
Support wrote:
Hi,
I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find hostapd for FC8 and not 10.
Much appreciated in advanced!
You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings. You've hijacked a thread.....
I've deleted the "References" header from this message so it should appear as a new thread.
Don't reply to a message, and change the subject to your choice.... that is hijacking. Breaks threading an gives people an upset tummy.
On my machine in evolution it appears as part of the same thread. There is obviously something I don't understand about the complaints about this that people keep making. -- ======================================================================= There is no education that is not political. An apolitical education is also political because it is purposely isolating. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 1:18 AM, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
The main GUI window has 4 vertical tabs on the left:
- Collection
- Internet
- Playlists
- Files
How it's supposed to work is, in amarok's center pane, click '+', add "Media Devices" applet. Haven't had a chance to procure an ipod yet myself to test... ymmv.
I figured that might be it just after my last post (the '+' doesn't exactly jump out at you), however it doesn't seem to do anything, not even an error message.
This just in: if you have an ipod actually plugged in, it suddenly appears! Not only, that, I can see the contents!
I'm afraid this is far too "user-friendly" for me :-) Some serious interface rethinking to be done here, however I'll lay off till I've actually tried it in anger.
poc
Ed Greshko:
I've deleted the "References" header from this message so it should appear as a new thread.
Aaron Konstam:
On my machine in evolution it appears as part of the same thread. There is obviously something I don't understand about the complaints about this that people keep making.
Look at Ed's message's headers. Ed's was a reply to Alex's, so they still fit together. Alex's was still completely (erroneously) linked into the thread, so it's still connected with the message that Alex "replied" to. Ed's removing of the references just means that those two messages are tied together, not the whole lot of them. It's, now, an isolated branch in the thread.
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Ed Greshko Ed.Greshko@greshko.com wrote:
Support wrote:
Hi,
I have not setup an AP for a while and would like someone to point in the right direction on setting an AP on Fedora 10. One can only find hostapd for FC8 and not 10.
Much appreciated in advanced!
You have committed one of the cardinal sins of mail list postings. You've hijacked a thread.....
I've deleted the "References" header from this message so it should appear as a new thread.
Don't reply to a message, and change the subject to your choice.... that is hijacking. Breaks threading an gives people an upset tummy.
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Hi Ed and Alex. Really do not understand the complaint about "Hijacked Thread." My email is gmail and shows Alex with the 1st email of a new thread and Ed replying with 2nd message that this is a hijacked subject.... This is not the first time I have seen this with a new thread. Does this show differently with other email readers? Really want to understand this question. Why does this question often appear on what gmail shows as "new threads?" Fnnix
Fennix wrote:
Really want to understand this question. Why does this question often appear on what gmail shows as "new threads?"
Maybe GMail ignores the References header if the subject changed.
But most threaded mail clients will assume the author knows what he/she is doing when he/she decides to reply to a message. In the threaded world, replying is not just a way to specify the address to send to, it also specifies what thread the message belongs to. Users who do not use threaded mail clients usually do not realize this. I blame the mail clients because they fail to make it clear what Reply really does (they don't show the References header at all - if they showed "In reply to: [link]" above the To: field, more people would realize what they're doing, and the client could also give them the opportunity to easily (with a [Clear] button) delete the References header if what they're sending is not actually a reply).
Kevin Kofler
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 00:58 +0800, Fennix wrote:
Why does this question often appear on what gmail shows as "new threads?"
That'd be down to the way gmail works, or is configured. Sounds like it's time for you to wade through gmail's configuration options, and read the help for any functions that you don't understand.
I wrote:
Paul W. Frields wrote:
You can find SRPMS for those here, but I've only built these for Fedora 10. You're welcome to try rebuilding them for F8 but I can't make any promises or offer tech support. Caveat emptor!
http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/libgpod-0.7.0-0.1svn2184.fc1... http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/packages/SRPMS/gtkpod-0.99.13-0.1svn2184.fc...
Hey, those are some fresh builds Paul! :)
Perhaps it's better to build libgpod-0.7.0rc1 (which is just a little bit older, but upstream we'd like the testing). I've built packages, but haven't put them up anywhere yet. I'll have to build for x86_64 and post them to my fedorapeople.org account.
Well, it was more than the few days I thought it would be, but I've got builds of libgpod-0.7.0rc2, gtkpod-0.99.13SVN and rhythmbox for F-9 and F-10 (i386 and x86_64) completed. They're even in a yum repo, for handy testing:
http://tmz.fedorapeople.org/repo/libgpod/
Just grab the libgpod.repo file and put it in /etc/yum.repos.d, then update or install libgpod, gtkpod or rhythmbox. The packages are signed with the same key I use to sign my mail. Yum will prompt you to install this key if you enable the above repository. The key fingerprint is 2067 23CE 8C4A 9D39 9FFF B8E7 4325 938B BEAF 0CE3.
NOTE 1: These builds are only for folks wishing to test the libgpod release candidates ad while I'm interested in reports of any problems, I don't have the time to provide a lot of support.
NOTE 2: I have not built all of the things which require libgpod, notably amarok is not built at this time. If you use amarok or have it installed, then you should NOT use the above repo. (Also not rebuilt are kipi-plugins, and, from rpmfusion, gnome-mplayer and lastfm.)
If time permits, I'll hopefully get amarok and kipi-plugins added.
My rebuilt gtkpod thus far had the fewest problems, especially after I read the included documentation in /usr/share/gtkpod/doc/the-sysinfo-file.html.
You really shouldn't have to do any of this manually. If you do, then there's a bug with the libgpod HAL support.
And there was just such a bug! Thanks to Paul for prodding, I've fixed up the HAL callout in the 0.7.0rc2 packages so that it should now actually run whenever an iPod is plugged in.
This exposed some SELinux denials, which are fixed for F-10 in selinux-policy-3.5.13-38.fc10 (in updates-testing). They are scheduled to get added to the policy on F-9 as well, but I don't think that's been committed to the selinux-policy package in CVS yet. So on F-9, you'd need to run in permissive mode when plugging in your iPod for the first time to have the SysInfoExtended file setup.
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