Copy and paste working to Firefox, but not from Firefox

[Don Marti]

I'm trying to track down a problem with copy/paste between Firefox and 
other applications on Fedora 34.

I can copy in other applications and paste to Firefox, but not the other 
way around.

[~](master)$ rpm -qf `which firefox`
firefox-93.0-2.fc34.x86_64
[~](master)$ rpm -qf `which gnome-terminal`
gnome-terminal-3.40.3-1.fc34.x86_64
[~](master)$ rpm -qf `which thunderbird`
thunderbird-91.1.0-1.fc34.x86_64

shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: works

ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-shift-V in gnome-terminal: does not work 
(nothing is pasted)
ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: does not work (same)

ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then shift-ctrl-V in gnome-terminal: works

Any suggestions or other things to try would be welcome, thank you.

[George N. White III]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 17:37, Don Marti  wrote:
> I'm trying to track down a problem with copy/paste between Firefox and
> other applications on Fedora 34.
>
> I can copy in other applications and paste to Firefox, but not the other
> way around.
>
> [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which firefox`
> firefox-93.0-2.fc34.x86_64
> [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which gnome-terminal`
> gnome-terminal-3.40.3-1.fc34.x86_64
> [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which thunderbird`
> thunderbird-91.1.0-1.fc34.x86_64
>
> shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
> shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: works
>
> ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-shift-V in gnome-terminal: does not work
> (nothing is pasted)
> ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: does not work (same)
>
> ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
> ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then shift-ctrl-V in gnome-terminal: works
>
> Any suggestions or other things to try would be welcome, thank you.

Are you using Wayland or X.org?   Try switching.   If the problem is
present in wayland you could install the wl-clipboard package to help
debug the problem.

[George N. White III]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 21:10, George N. White III  wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 17:37, Don Marti  wrote:
> > I'm trying to track down a problem with copy/paste between Firefox and
> > other applications on Fedora 34.
> >
> > I can copy in other applications and paste to Firefox, but not the other
> > way around.
> >
> > [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which firefox`
> > firefox-93.0-2.fc34.x86_64
> > [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which gnome-terminal`
> > gnome-terminal-3.40.3-1.fc34.x86_64
> > [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which thunderbird`
> > thunderbird-91.1.0-1.fc34.x86_64
> >
> > shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
> > shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: works
> >
> > ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-shift-V in gnome-terminal: does not work
> > (nothing is pasted)
> > ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: does not work (same)
> >
> > ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
> > ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then shift-ctrl-V in gnome-terminal: works
> >
> > Any suggestions or other things to try would be welcome, thank you.
>
> Are you using Wayland or X.org?   Try switching.   If the problem is
> present in wayland you could install the wl-clipboard package to help
> debug the problem.
>
> Could this be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722369.

[Tim]

On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 22:22 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> Could this be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722369.

Just reading through the contributions to that, one thing jumped out at
me as a long term issue I'd suffered from:  If, at some time, while
dragging an icon across the screen to drop it somewhere you had a tiny
fumble (lost pressure on the mouse button at an inopportune moment, or
hit some random part of the GUI), you'd lock-out any access to the
desktop.  You could move the mouse around, but nothing would respond to
it.  If you had at terminal open, you *may* be able to alt-tab to it
and type in some commands, but you could never regain control.  You had
to reboot or hard reset the PC.

I could never duplicate the fault on purpose, to make any error report
about it, and wouldn't know how to gain useful info for such a hard
break down.  I'd say I've encountered this, from time to time, for over
a decade.

[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 16 Oct 2021 at 16:56, Tim via users wrote:

Subject:        	Re: Copy and paste working to Firefox, but 
not from Firefox
To:             	[e-mail]
Date sent:      	Sat, 16 Oct 2021 16:56:52 +1030
Send reply to:  	Community support for Fedora 
users 
From:           	Tim via users 

Copies to:      	Tim
> On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 22:22 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > Could this be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722369.
>
> Just reading through the contributions to that, one thing jumped out at
> me as a long term issue I'd suffered from:  If, at some time, while
> dragging an icon across the screen to drop it somewhere you had a tiny
> fumble (lost pressure on the mouse button at an inopportune moment, or
> hit some random part of the GUI), you'd lock-out any access to the
> desktop.  You could move the mouse around, but nothing would respond to
> it.  If you had at terminal open, you *may* be able to alt-tab to it
> and type in some commands, but you could never regain control.  You had
> to reboot or hard reset the PC.
>
> I could never duplicate the fault on purpose, to make any error report
> about it, and wouldn't know how to gain useful info for such a hard
> break down.  I'd say I've encountered this, from time to time, for over
> a decade.

Note sure if this is related. Have 4 main machines I'm 
working with. Notebook is used to vnc into 3 other 
machines. Just upgraded one of the machines from 
Fedora 33 to Fedora 34?
Now Ctrl-C Ctrl-V Shift-Ctrl-C Shift-Ctrl-V and even using 
menu options is not working when vnced into this 
machine? Works fine with all the other machines still 
running Fedora 33?

Tried it with gedit, geany, and even libreoffice?
Not sure if it is the copy option, or past option that isn't 
working? Don't have monitor on machine, so haven't 
checked if it works fine with local access, but not with a 
vnc session?

Was planning on upgrading all the machines to Fedora 
34??

Any Ideals??
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[Michael D. Setzer II]

On 16 Oct 2021 at 17:28, Michael D. Setzer II via user 
wrote:

To:             	Community support for Fedora users 

Date sent:      	Sat, 16 Oct 2021 17:28:57 +1000
Subject:        	Re: Copy and paste working to Firefox, but 
not from Firefox
Priority:       	normal
Send reply to:  	Community support for Fedora 
users 
From:           	"Michael D. Setzer II via users" 

Copies to:      	"Michael D. Setzer II"
> On 16 Oct 2021 at 16:56, Tim via users wrote:
>
> Subject:        	Re: Copy and paste working to Firefox, but 
> not from Firefox
> To:             	[e-mail]
> Date sent:      	Sat, 16 Oct 2021 16:56:52 +1030
> Send reply to:  	Community support for Fedora 
> users 
> From:           	Tim via users 
>
> Copies to:      	Tim
> > On Fri, 2021-10-15 at 22:22 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > > Could this be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722369.
> >
> > Just reading through the contributions to that, one thing jumped out at
> > me as a long term issue I'd suffered from:  If, at some time, while
> > dragging an icon across the screen to drop it somewhere you had a tiny
> > fumble (lost pressure on the mouse button at an inopportune moment, or
> > hit some random part of the GUI), you'd lock-out any access to the
> > desktop.  You could move the mouse around, but nothing would respond to
> > it.  If you had at terminal open, you *may* be able to alt-tab to it
> > and type in some commands, but you could never regain control.  You had
> > to reboot or hard reset the PC.
> >
> > I could never duplicate the fault on purpose, to make any error report
> > about it, and wouldn't know how to gain useful info for such a hard
> > break down.  I'd say I've encountered this, from time to time, for over
> > a decade.
>
> Note sure if this is related. Have 4 main machines I'm 
> working with. Notebook is used to vnc into 3 other 
> machines. Just upgraded one of the machines from 
> Fedora 33 to Fedora 34?
> Now Ctrl-C Ctrl-V Shift-Ctrl-C Shift-Ctrl-V and even using 
> menu options is not working when vnced into this 
> machine? Works fine with all the other machines still 
> running Fedora 33?

Found solution to my problem, but not sure why?
Had an old Lenova R60 notebook that I had also upgrade 
to Fedora 34. Locally, the copy paste worked fine. VNCed 
to other Fedora 34 system, and not working. Clicked on 
the clipboard manager clipit, and unloaded it, and copy 
paste went back to working just fine. So guess the Fedora 
34 version an Fedora34 vnc don't work well together. 
Ctrl-C Ctrl-V is much more useful than clipit for me.
> Tried it with gedit, geany, and even libreoffice?
> Not sure if it is the copy option, or past option that isn't 
> working? Don't have monitor on machine, so haven't 
> checked if it works fine with local access, but not with a 
> vnc session?
>
> Was planning on upgrading all the machines to Fedora 
> 34??
>
> Any Ideals??
> > --
> >
> > uname -rsvp
> > Linux 3.10.0-1160.42.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 7 14:49:57 UTC 2021 x86_64
> >
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[Don Marti]

On 10/15/21 18:22, George N. White III wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 21:10, George N. White III <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 at 17:37, Don Marti <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:

...
>     I can copy in other applications and paste to Firefox, but not
>     the other
>     way around.
> Are you using Wayland or X.org?   Try switching.   If the problem is
> present in wayland you could install the wl-clipboard package to help
> debug the problem.
>
> Could this be https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722369 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1722369.

Thank you. I read that Bugzilla thread. My session appears to be 
Wayland, and according to xeyes, gnome-terminal and Firefox are Wayland 
windows and Thunderbird is X.

In Firefox, I went to "about.config" and set

widget.wayland.async-clipboard.enabled

to "true" and now it seems to be working.

More info: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1725149#c5

(I didn't type that Bugzilla URL, I copied it in Firefox and pasted into 
this Thunderbird window, just want I wanted to be able to do)

The async clipboard is planned to be the default in Firefox 94 so this 
should not be needed in 94 and later.  Thank you again.

[Robert McBroom]

On 10/15/21 16:37, Don Marti wrote:
> I'm trying to track down a problem with copy/paste between Firefox and 
> other applications on Fedora 34.
>
> I can copy in other applications and paste to Firefox, but not the 
> other way around.
>
> [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which firefox`
> firefox-93.0-2.fc34.x86_64
> [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which gnome-terminal`
> gnome-terminal-3.40.3-1.fc34.x86_64
> [~](master)$ rpm -qf `which thunderbird`
> thunderbird-91.1.0-1.fc34.x86_64
>
> shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
> shift-ctrl-C in gnome-terminal, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: works
>
> ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-shift-V in gnome-terminal: does not work 
> (nothing is pasted)
> ctrl-C in Firefox, then ctrl-V in Thunderbird: does not work (same)
>
> ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then ctrl-V in Firefox: works
> ctrl-C in Thunderbird, then shift-ctrl-V in gnome-terminal: works
>
> Any suggestions or other things to try would be welcome, thank you.

A quirk. For quite a while Iv'e found right mouse click brings up the 
menu and copy loads the clipboard. The usual paste options into other 
apps work.