A welcoming email

[Stefano L. Sordini]

Hello, my name is Stefano Sordini and am new to this mailing list. I 
want to ask if this mailing list is safe from viruses etc.. Hope admins 
have installed a quite strong firewall and filters :)

Thanks,

--
Stefano L. Sordini
University Of Athens
Computer Science Dept
http://www.netshop-isp.com

[ne...]

On Oct 20, 2004 at 13:45, Stefano L. Sordini in a soothing rage wrote:
> Hello, my name is Stefano Sordini and am new to this mailing list. I 
> want to ask if this mailing list is safe from viruses etc.. Hope admins 
> have installed a quite strong firewall and filters :)

Welcome! Since the mailing list is located in the US and
there are not enough flu vaccines to go round in the US...

N.Emile...

[Guy Fraser]

ne... wrote:
> On Oct 20, 2004 at 13:45, Stefano L. Sordini in a soothing rage wrote:
> > Hello, my name is Stefano Sordini and am new to this mailing list. I 
> > want to ask if this mailing list is safe from viruses etc.. Hope admins 
> > have installed a quite strong firewall and filters :)
>
> Welcome! Since the mailing list is located in the US and
> there are not enough flu vaccines to go round in the US...
>
> N.Emile...

We have more than enough here in Canada, too bad its illegal for you to 
buy it
from us. You can thank George W. Bush for that. By the way does the W stand
for Weenie. ;-)

[Brian Fahrlander]

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 08:45, Stefano L. Sordini wrote:
> Hello, my name is Stefano Sordini and am new to this mailing list. I 
> want to ask if this mailing list is safe from viruses etc.. Hope admins 
> have installed a quite strong firewall and filters :)

[Joking!]

Nah, we're sitting pretty on hardware here, three room-sized
computers soaking in liquid nitrogen, running the latest copies of
Windows XP authorized by Bill Gates himself.  Using Exchnange on a
billion-person license we manage to post almost 10, completely
spam/virus/trojan/nigerian scam-free messages a day.  We're going to
talk to the guys at MIT to see if they can teach us how to shorten the
reboot time; for a couple thousand dollars we can soon reboot _while_ we
accept messages!

[/Joking]

Nah, it's obvious you're new.  Linux is a place where, when
something's crap, it gets dropped. Great things get elevated to a point
where everyone can share it without even trying.  There are 60,000
Windows viruses in the wild; there have been 2 for Linux. I can't
believe this is _only_ cause there are more windows boxes. The
environment's tougher, less happens "for your convenience".

Not only do most of the machines on this network not 'understand'
the code of viruses, the servers have antispam to keep things nice and
clean.  There's a good bunch of hard working guys that maintain the
thing; it's good.

When the viruses start to come en-mass, instead of setting up
external corporations and selling corporations antivirus help for
millions, we'll just FIX it.

The biggest misunderstanding about Linux is that it's a replacement
to Windows.  No.  It's a replacement to all operating systems.  And it's
the collective will of the people that guides it.

So welcome to Linux!  Anything else is a waste of time.

[John Thompson]

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Stefano L. Sordini wrote:

| Hello, my name is Stefano Sordini and am new to this mailing list. I
| want to ask if this mailing list is safe from viruses etc.. Hope admins
| have installed a quite strong firewall and filters :)

Welcome, Stephano! Most of us use linux to read and post to the list,
and viruses, etc. simply aren't a problem. RedHat (the list host)
appears to run Spamassassin on list submissions, so that type of
annoyance is also minimal.  And Fedora comes with a very capable
firewall (iptables) with strong default settings. So don't worry, be happy.

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[Santiago Cepas]

El mié, 20-10-2004 a las 15:45, Stefano L. Sordini escribió:
> Hello, my name is Stefano Sordini and am new to this mailing list. I 
> want to ask if this mailing list is safe from viruses etc.. Hope admins 
> have installed a quite strong firewall and filters :)
>
> Thanks,

Wellcome Stefano.
Rest asure, the list is pretty secure. I've been subscribed since last
june and haven't got a single problem (except the ocasional mailbox
overflow when on holidays!)

Sometimes the guys tend to talk about off topic stuff (like politics)
but that's fine to me since it doesn't happen too often,

Regards,

Santi

[Trevor Smith]

On October 20, 2004 11:21 am, Guy Fraser wrote:
> We have more than enough here in Canada, too bad its illegal for you to
> buy it

Newsflash: the US drug companies want a certain level of profit. If they make 
less on sales to us, the must make more on sales to the Americans (and maybe 
Europeans & Japanese).

If the US drug companies lose sales/profit to American consumers because they 
sell cheaply to us and we resell to their customers, our prices will go up. 
(I'm in Canada for those who have missed that.)

So stop gloating. People in Canada who don't realize this and think it's all a 
"big conspiracy" by the US companies miss the point that we, as Canadians, 
are part of that conspiracy and our "cheap drugs" won't last if we laugh too 
loudly at the people who are getting screwed (the American consumer).

This, of course, does not include home-grown Canadian substances that our 
friends out west provide so well. :-)

[Yang Xiao]

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:25:59 -0300, Trevor Smith  wrote:
> On October 20, 2004 11:21 am, Guy Fraser wrote:
> > We have more than enough here in Canada, too bad its illegal for you to
> > buy it
>
> Newsflash: the US drug companies want a certain level of profit. If they make
> less on sales to us, the must make more on sales to the Americans (and maybe
> Europeans & Japanese).
>
> If the US drug companies lose sales/profit to American consumers because they
> sell cheaply to us and we resell to their customers, our prices will go up.
> (I'm in Canada for those who have missed that.)
>
> So stop gloating. People in Canada who don't realize this and think it's all a
> "big conspiracy" by the US companies miss the point that we, as Canadians,
> are part of that conspiracy and our "cheap drugs" won't last if we laugh too
> loudly at the people who are getting screwed (the American consumer).
>
> This, of course, does not include home-grown Canadian substances that our
> friends out west provide so well. :-)
>
> --
> Trevor Smith // [e-mail]
>
> --
> fedora-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

This is getting boring and out of hand now, do we have to listen to
this kind of partisan bicking everywhere? Can we just get all get
along in the Fedora World? Leave politics out of it please.
Just my $0.02.
Yang

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Wednesday 20 October 2004 09:45 am, Stefano L. Sordini wrote:
> Hello, my name is Stefano Sordini and am new to this mailing list. I
> want to ask if this mailing list is safe from viruses etc.. Hope admins
> have installed a quite strong firewall and filters :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Stefano L. Sordini
> University Of Athens
> Computer Science Dept
> http://www.netshop-isp.com

Stenano:
Well, assuming that you're still subscribed, you've seen the worst of it. Once 
in a while a thread does get forked or a flame war starts. Sorry that it 
happened in your case; it is not normal behavior here. Nor are malware and 
spam a problem (well, not until yesterday.)

We do observe the basic rules of netiquette here. Don't top-post, don't use 
HTML, don't hijack threads, keep it brief, and _always_ do some research 
before asking a question. You probably are well aware of those rules. In any 
event, netiquette (as interpreted here) -- and much more -- is covered in a 
weekly newsletter published by Lisa (The Average Jane); it's subject line is 
"README: Current Fedora Core 1 Problems & Solutions/Helpful Links". The most 
recent issue can be read here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fedora-list&m=109754144607868&w=2
She also posts the same information here:
http://www.peepingdarklord.com/fedoralist/

-- cmg

[Z]

Trevor Smith wrote:
> On October 20, 2004 11:21 am, Guy Fraser wrote:
> > We have more than enough here in Canada, too bad its illegal for you to
> > buy it
>
> Newsflash: the US drug companies want a certain level of profit. If they make 
> less on sales to us, the must make more on sales to the Americans (and maybe 
> Europeans & Japanese).

Wrong. They want the maximum profit they can get away with. If some 
hundreds of thousands out there have to die for this to happen, so be it.

[Austin Isler]

Trevor Smith wrote:
> On October 20, 2004 11:21 am, Guy Fraser wrote:
> > We have more than enough here in Canada, too bad its illegal for you to
> > buy it
>
> Newsflash: the US drug companies want a certain level of profit. If they make 
> less on sales to us, the must make more on sales to the Americans (and maybe 
> Europeans & Japanese).
>
> If the US drug companies lose sales/profit to American consumers because they 
> sell cheaply to us and we resell to their customers, our prices will go up. 
> (I'm in Canada for those who have missed that.)
>
> So stop gloating. People in Canada who don't realize this and think it's all a 
> "big conspiracy" by the US companies miss the point that we, as Canadians, 
> are part of that conspiracy and our "cheap drugs" won't last if we laugh too 
> loudly at the people who are getting screwed (the American consumer).
>
> This, of course, does not include home-grown Canadian substances that our 
> friends out west provide so well. :-)

Canadian greens have nothing on California's Humbolt County.

Austin

FC 3 + 9000 Series of 3ware

[Laurent van der Straten]

Hi,
Some one can say how to fix the warning the illegal length with a 3ware
9000?

And also help me to fix the problem with the tw_cli who say that no
controller is found. The OS is installed on this controller

Any idea?

Laurent
UniPress

FC 3 + 9000 Series of 3ware

[Jurgen Kramer]

On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 10:40 +0100, Laurent van der Straten wrote:
> Hi,
> Some one can say how to fix the warning the illegal length with a 3ware
> 9000?

I am getting the same error messages:

3w-9xxx: scsi0: ERROR: (0x03:0x0104): SGL entry has illegal
length:address=0x3C9EF000, length=0xFF, cmd=X.

This will probably be fixed in the next kernel update, otherwise it will
be time to report it in bugzilla.
> And also help me to fix the problem with the tw_cli who say that no
> controller is found. The OS is installed on this controller

You need a newer version of the 3DM2 tools. I am using "3DM 2 version
2.02.00.013" via its web interface without problems.
> Any idea?
>
> Laurent
> UniPress