network mgr applet - cannot disable wireless

[Genes MailLists]

Often when I do backups on laptop, I'll plug in wired ethernet - NM
happily switches the connection from wireless to wired -

however it always leaves the wireless on as well
     + correct if its a different subnet than wired
     + arguably wrong if its the same subnet - probably a bug ? - or at
least it should offer to shutoff wireless when the 2 subnets are the same.

Since the route via wireless is active, the backup could/does use
wireless instead of wired. So I usually right click the nm applet and
disable wireless.

Today - that option along with the disable netowrking option are
grayed out and I can not uncheck the 'emable wireless/networking radio
buttons.

This is f13 - fully updated (+ some testing and 2.6.32.6-47 kernel
from koji). NetworkManager is 8.1.4.git20100817.

Anyway know what causes this or suggestions on how to deal with it ?

Thanks ..

gene/

[Wolfgang S. Rupprecht]

Genes MailLists  writes:
> Often when I do backups on laptop, I'll plug in wired ethernet - NM
> happily switches the connection from wireless to wired -
>
> however it always leaves the wireless on as well
>      + correct if its a different subnet than wired
>      + arguably wrong if its the same subnet - probably a bug ? - or at
> least it should offer to shutoff wireless when the 2 subnets are the same.
>   Since the route via wireless is active, the backup could/does use
>
> wireless instead of wired. So I usually right click the nm applet and
> disable wireless.
>   Today - that option along with the disable netowrking option are
>
> grayed out and I can not uncheck the 'emable wireless/networking radio
> buttons.
> This is f13 - fully updated (+ some testing and 2.6.32.6-47 kernel
>
> from koji). NetworkManager is 8.1.4.git20100817.
>    Anyway know what causes this or suggestions on how to deal with it ?

I am in the same boat and it is darn annoying.  I'm thinking that I may
have to go to a routed wireless net instead of bridged so that I can
differentiate between the two links at the routing level and add a bit
of routing cost to the wireless link.

-wolfgang

[Terry Polzin]

On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 07:54 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> Genes MailLists  writes:
> > Often when I do backups on laptop, I'll plug in wired ethernet - NM
> > happily switches the connection from wireless to wired -
> >
> > however it always leaves the wireless on as well
> >      + correct if its a different subnet than wired
> >      + arguably wrong if its the same subnet - probably a bug ? - or at
> > least it should offer to shutoff wireless when the 2 subnets are the same.
> >   Since the route via wireless is active, the backup could/does use
> >
> > wireless instead of wired. So I usually right click the nm applet and
> > disable wireless.
> >   Today - that option along with the disable netowrking option are
> >
> > grayed out and I can not uncheck the 'emable wireless/networking radio
> > buttons.
> > This is f13 - fully updated (+ some testing and 2.6.32.6-47 kernel
> >
> > from koji). NetworkManager is 8.1.4.git20100817.
> >    Anyway know what causes this or suggestions on how to deal with it ?
>
> I am in the same boat and it is darn annoying.  I'm thinking that I may
> have to go to a routed wireless net instead of bridged so that I can
> differentiate between the two links at the routing level and add a bit
> of routing cost to the wireless link.
> -wolfgang
>
> Wolfgang S. Rupprecht      http://www.wsrcc.com/wolfgang/      (IPv6-only)

There are lot's of things that don't work in NM-APPLET,  I can't create
a vpnc connection, nor can I get my wireless card to stay in managed
mode from reboot to reboot.  I have to physically turn off the wireless
card on my D630 to keep from attaching to co-workers web enabled phones
ad-hoc at the office.

[SternData]

On 08/30/2010 07:01 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> Often when I do backups on laptop, I'll plug in wired ethernet - NM
> happily switches the connection from wireless to wired -
>
> however it always leaves the wireless on as well
>      + correct if its a different subnet than wired
>      + arguably wrong if its the same subnet - probably a bug ? - or at
> least it should offer to shutoff wireless when the 2 subnets are the same.
>   Since the route via wireless is active, the backup could/does use
>
> wireless instead of wired. So I usually right click the nm applet and
> disable wireless.
>   Today - that option along with the disable netowrking option are
>
> grayed out and I can not uncheck the 'emable wireless/networking radio
> buttons.
> This is f13 - fully updated (+ some testing and 2.6.32.6-47 kernel
>
> from koji). NetworkManager is 8.1.4.git20100817.
>    Anyway know what causes this or suggestions on how to deal with it ?
>
>     Thanks ..
>
> gene/

I clicked on EDIT CONNECTIONS. nm-applet asked for the root password.
Now, all the formerly grayed out boxes are enabled. Whatever is going on
seems to be in the applet.

[Genes MailLists]

Followup - after switching to wired being on wired for a while - the
radio buttons are no longer grayed out ... it now seems normal.

This may be useful for the bug.