F13 DNS (client) not working

[Aaron Gray]

Hi,

I have just installed F13 server and the DNS is not working. I can ping out
but am not getting google.

On filling in the Network Configuration DNS tab then restarting Network
Configure the DNS values have disappeared and are blank.

Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

[Scott Ford]

Aaron:

How is your Fedora configured. I have mine going thry Virtualbox thru
Windows 7 no problem to a router
What are you connected to ( Hardware)

Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer

[mobile] 609-346-0399
[direct]   678-266-3399 x304

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[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Aaron Gray
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 5:16 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: F13 DNS (client) not working

Hi,

I have just installed F13 server and the DNS is not working. I can ping out
but am not getting google.

On filling in the Network Configuration DNS tab then restarting Network
Configure the DNS values have disappeared and are blank.

Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

[Aaron Gray]

Its not the router, or the firewall or the local firewall.

On 1 October 2010 22:17, Scott Ford  wrote:
> Aaron:
>
> How is your Fedora configured. I have mine going thry Virtualbox thru
> Windows 7 no problem to a router
> What are you connected to ( Hardware)
>
> Scott Ford
> Senior Systems Engineer
>
> *[mobile]* 609-346-0399
> *[direct]*   678-266-3399 x304
>
> identityforge.com http://identityforge.com
>
> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain
> privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have
> received it in error, please notify the sender immediately or let us know
> at [e-mail] , and then delete the original. Any other use
> of his email by you is prohibited.
>
> *From:* [e-mail] [mailto:
> [e-mail]] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Gray
> *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 5:16 PM
> *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> *Subject:* F13 DNS (client) not working
>
> Hi,
>
> I have just installed F13 server and the DNS is not working. I can ping out
> but am not getting google.
>
> On filling in the Network Configuration DNS tab then restarting Network
> Configure the DNS values have disappeared and are blank.
>
> Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance,
>
> Aaron
>
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[Scott Ford]

Aaron:

Ok, but is your address via DHCP or Static ?
Can you 'ping' Fedora from the Router ?
Can you 'ping' the router from Fedora ?

Also what do you see if you do a IFCONFIG eth0

Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer

[mobile] 609-346-0399
[direct]   678-266-3399 x304

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From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Aaron Gray
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 5:25 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: Re: F13 DNS (client) not working

Its not the router, or the firewall or the local firewall.

On 1 October 2010 22:17, Scott Ford  wrote:

Aaron:

How is your Fedora configured. I have mine going thry Virtualbox thru
Windows 7 no problem to a router
What are you connected to ( Hardware)

Scott Ford
Senior Systems Engineer

[mobile] 609-346-0399
[direct]   678-266-3399 x304

identityforge.com  http://identityforge.com/ http://identityforge.com

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From: [e-mail]
[mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Aaron Gray
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 5:16 PM
To: Community support for Fedora users
Subject: F13 DNS (client) not working

Hi,

I have just installed F13 server and the DNS is not working. I can ping out
but am not getting google.

On filling in the Network Configuration DNS tab then restarting Network
Configure the DNS values have disappeared and are blank.

Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance,

Aaron

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[Aaron Gray]

On 1 October 2010 22:39, Scott Ford  wrote:
> Aaron:
>
> Ok, but is your address via DHCP or Static ?

Static
> Can you 'ping' Fedora from the Router ?

Yes
> Can you 'ping' the router from Fedora ?

Yes

I have an existing parallel F11 server that is fine and online.
> Also what do you see if you do a IFCONFIG eth0
>
> Scott Ford
> Senior Systems Engineer
>
> *[mobile]* 609-346-0399
> *[direct]*   678-266-3399 x304
>
> identityforge.com http://identityforge.com
>
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> *From:* [e-mail] [mailto:
> [e-mail]] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Gray
> *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 5:25 PM
>
> *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> *Subject:* Re: F13 DNS (client) not working
>
> Its not the router, or the firewall or the local firewall.
>
> On 1 October 2010 22:17, Scott Ford  wrote:
> > Aaron:
> >
> > How is your Fedora configured. I have mine going thry Virtualbox thru
> > Windows 7 no problem to a router
> > What are you connected to ( Hardware)
> >
> > Scott Ford
> > Senior Systems Engineer
> >
> > *[mobile]* 609-346-0399
> > *[direct]*   678-266-3399 x304
> >
> > identityforge.com http://identityforge.com
> >
> > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain
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> > received it in error, please notify the sender immediately or let us know
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> >
> > *From:* [e-mail] [mailto:
> > [e-mail]] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Gray
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 5:16 PM
> > *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> > *Subject:* F13 DNS (client) not working
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have just installed F13 server and the DNS is not working. I can ping
> > out but am not getting google.
> >
> > On filling in the Network Configuration DNS tab then restarting Network
> > Configure the DNS values have disappeared and are blank.
> >
> > Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance,
> >
> > Aaron
> >
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[JD]

On 10/01/2010 02:42 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> On 1 October 2010 22:39, Scott Ford <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> Aaron:
> Ok, but is your address via DHCP or Static ?
>
>
> Static

Since you have a static IP address, then
you need to populate /etc/resolv.conf.
Personally, I have always done that by hand
as I have no faith in the net tools.
Can you populate you resolv.conf manually
and see if that works?
> Can you 'ping' Fedora from the Router ?
>
>
> Yes
> Can you 'ping' the router from Fedora ?
>
>
> Yes
>
> I have an existing parallel F11 server that is fine and online.
> Also what do you see if you do a IFCONFIG eth0
> Scott Ford
> Senior Systems Engineer
> *[mobile]* 609-346-0399
> *[direct]*   678-266-3399 x304
> identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com>
> http://identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com/>
> This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain
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>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* [e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>
> [mailto:[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>] *On Behalf Of
> *Aaron Gray
> *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 5:25 PM
>
> *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> *Subject:* Re: F13 DNS (client) not working
>
> Its not the router, or the firewall or the local firewall.
>
> On 1 October 2010 22:17, Scott Ford <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     Aaron:
>     How is your Fedora configured. I have mine going thry
>     Virtualbox thru Windows 7 no problem to a router
>     What are you connected to ( Hardware)
>     Scott Ford
>     Senior Systems Engineer
>     *[mobile]* 609-346-0399
>     *[direct]*   678-266-3399 x304
>     identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com>
>     http://identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com/>
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>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* [e-mail]
>     <mailto:[e-mail]>
>     [mailto:[e-mail]
>     <mailto:[e-mail]>] *On Behalf Of
>     *Aaron Gray
>     *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 5:16 PM
>     *To:* Community support for Fedora users
>     *Subject:* F13 DNS (client) not working
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I have just installed F13 server and the DNS is not working. I
>     can ping out but am not getting google.
>
>     On filling in the Network Configuration DNS tab then
>     restarting Network Configure the DNS values have disappeared
>     and are blank.
>
>     Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance,
>
>     Aaron
>
>
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[Aaron Gray]

On 1 October 2010 23:00, JD  wrote:
> On 10/01/2010 02:42 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> > On 1 October 2010 22:39, Scott Ford <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > Aaron:
> > Ok, but is your address via DHCP or Static ?
> >
> >
> > Static
>
> Since you have a static IP address, then
> you need to populate /etc/resolv.conf.
> Personally, I have always done that by hand
> as I have no faith in the net tools.
> Can you populate you resolv.conf manually
> and see if that works?
>
> I have done that but as soon as I do a "service network restart" it is

blanked again.
> > Can you 'ping' Fedora from the Router ?
> >
> >
> > Yes
> > Can you 'ping' the router from Fedora ?
> >
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > I have an existing parallel F11 server that is fine and online.
> > Also what do you see if you do a IFCONFIG eth0
> > Scott Ford
> > Senior Systems Engineer
> > *[mobile]* 609-346-0399
> > *[direct]*   678-266-3399 x304
> > identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com>
> > http://identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com/>
> > This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain
> > privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you
> > have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately or
> > let us know at [e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]> , and then delete the original.
> > Any other use of his email by you is prohibited.
> > *From:* [e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > [mailto:[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>] *On Behalf Of
> > *Aaron Gray
> > *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 5:25 PM
> >
> > *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> > *Subject:* Re: F13 DNS (client) not working
> >
> > Its not the router, or the firewall or the local firewall.
> >
> > On 1 October 2010 22:17, Scott Ford <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Aaron:
> >     How is your Fedora configured. I have mine going thry
> >     Virtualbox thru Windows 7 no problem to a router
> >     What are you connected to ( Hardware)
> >     Scott Ford
> >     Senior Systems Engineer
> >     *[mobile]* 609-346-0399
> >     *[direct]*   678-266-3399 x304
> >     identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com>
> >     http://identityforge.com <http://identityforge.com/>
> >     This message is for the designated recipient only and may
> >     contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private
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> >     and then delete the original. Any other use of his email by
> >     you is prohibited.
> >     *From:* [e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>
> >     [mailto:[e-mail]
> >     <mailto:[e-mail]>] *On Behalf Of
> >     *Aaron Gray
> >     *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 5:16 PM
> >     *To:* Community support for Fedora users
> >     *Subject:* F13 DNS (client) not working
> >
> >     Hi,
> >
> >     I have just installed F13 server and the DNS is not working. I
> >     can ping out but am not getting google.
> >
> >     On filling in the Network Configuration DNS tab then
> >     restarting Network Configure the DNS values have disappeared
> >     and are blank.
> >
> >     Hope you can help. Many thanks in advance,
> >
> >     Aaron
> >
> >
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[Aaron Gray]

On 1 October 2010 23:10, Aaron Gray  wrote:
> On 1 October 2010 23:00, JD  wrote:
> > On 10/01/2010 02:42 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> > > On 1 October 2010 22:39, Scott Ford <[e-mail]
> > > > wrote:
> > > Aaron:
> > > Ok, but is your address via DHCP or Static ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Static
> >
> > Since you have a static IP address, then
> > you need to populate /etc/resolv.conf.
> > Personally, I have always done that by hand
> > as I have no faith in the net tools.
> > Can you populate you resolv.conf manually
> > and see if that works?
> >
> > I have done that but as soon as I do a "service network restart" it is
>
> blanked again.

Its telling me in a comment in /etc/resolv.conf to put it in :-

ifcfg files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts

[JD]

On 10/01/2010 03:10 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> On 1 October 2010 23:00, JD <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> On 10/01/2010 02:42 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> > On 1 October 2010 22:39, Scott Ford
> <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>
> > <mailto:[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>>> wrote:
> >
> >     Aaron:
> >     Ok, but is your address via DHCP or Static ?
> >
> >
> > Static
> Since you have a static IP address, then
> you need to populate /etc/resolv.conf.
> Personally, I have always done that by hand
> as I have no faith in the net tools.
> Can you populate you resolv.conf manually
> and see if that works?
>
> I have done that but as soon as I do a "service network restart" it is 
> blanked again.

It is being done by the Nework Manager - that beastly piece of 
unmentionable matter.

[Genes MailLists]

On 10/01/2010 06:11 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> Its telling me in a comment in /etc/resolv.conf to put it in :-
> ifcfg files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts 

Can you share the output of:

# chkconfig --list NetworkManager
   # chkconfig --list network

thanks.

g/

[Genes MailLists]

On 10/01/2010 06:11 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> On 1 October 2010 23:10, Aaron Gray <[e-mail]
> Its telling me in a comment in /etc/resolv.conf to put it in :-
> ifcfg files in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts 

Did you try taking its advice - out of curiosity

and add

DNS1=ip1
   DNS2=ip2

to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or whatever)

gene/

[Genes MailLists]

On 10/01/2010 06:20 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> >   # chkconfig --list NetworkManager
> >
> > NetworkManager  0:off   1:off   2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:off
> >   # chkconfig --list network
> >
> > network         0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off

Well your original mail said you were using network service but in
fact network is off and NetworkManager is on. If you're really using
network then you need to turn it on and turn off NetworkManager.

If you're using NetworkManager then you're not setting it up right.

If you are using network - as your mail suggests then please:

chkconfig NetworkManager off
 chkconfig network on
 service NetworkManager stop
 (fix your settings) and then
 service network start
    (or restart)

gene

[Aaron Gray]

On 2 October 2010 05:28, Genes MailLists  wrote:
> On 10/01/2010 06:20 PM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> > >   # chkconfig --list NetworkManager
> > >
> > > NetworkManager  0:off   1:off   2:on    3:on    4:on    5:on    6:off
> > >   # chkconfig --list network
> > >
> > > network         0:off   1:off   2:off   3:off   4:off   5:off   6:off
>
> Well your original mail said you were using network service but in
> fact network is off and NetworkManager is on. If you're really using
> network then you need to turn it on and turn off NetworkManager.
>
> If you're using NetworkManager then you're not setting it up right.
>
> If you are using network - as your mail suggests then please:
>
> chkconfig NetworkManager off
>  chkconfig network on
>  service NetworkManager stop
>  (fix your settings) and then
>  service network start
>    (or restart)
>
> I did not know they were mutually exclusive. AFAICT on existing and

previous Fedora Servers I have just used network AFAICT.

Nayway this does not work either...going back to F11...

Aaron

[Tim]

JD:
> > Since you have a static IP address, then you need to
> > populate /etc/resolv.conf.

Aaron Gray:
> I have done that but as soon as I do a "service network restart" it is
> blanked again.

I would try:  Stop the network service.  Edit the configuration files.
Start the network service.

If you're modifying the files while the service is running, it could be
reverting to backups when stopping/restarting.

[Genes MailLists]

On 10/02/2010 09:23 AM, Tim wrote:
>
> I would try:  Stop the network service.  Edit the configuration files.
> Start the network service.
>
> If you're modifying the files while the service is running, it could be
> reverting to backups when stopping/restarting.

Looking over what he did - it seems he used network manager to config
the connection (or at least edited the ifcfg files which NM owns) ..
then changed them and started network service on top - so both network
services are now competing which is a right old mess.

He chose to revert to f11 instead of just turning off NM for some
reason ...

I think he should have turned off NM and gone about his merry way ..

But its not my machine!

g/

[Aaron Gray]

On 2 October 2010 15:42, Genes MailLists  wrote:
> On 10/02/2010 09:23 AM, Tim wrote:
> >
> > I would try:  Stop the network service.  Edit the configuration files.
> > Start the network service.
> >
> > If you're modifying the files while the service is running, it could be
> > reverting to backups when stopping/restarting.
>
> Looking over what he did - it seems he used network manager to config
> the connection (or at least edited the ifcfg files which NM owns) ..
> then changed them and started network service on top - so both network
> services are now competing which is a right old mess.
>
> He chose to revert to f11 instead of just turning off NM for some
> reason ...
>
> I think he should have turned off NM and gone about his merry way ..
>
> But its not my machine!

Going back to F11 for now seemed better :)

Aaron