Trying to install f8 on intel core 2 duo/sata hdd/dvd writer/shuttle xpc . The problem with the install 'hanging' at the 'loading ata_piix driver' seems to be commonly reported but has several variants . My situation is of the form
1) install 'stalls' at 'loading ata_piix driver' for a few minutes 2) install eventually asks from whence you want to install 3) seems the dvd drive we booted from is now 'lost'
Is there any info about what is causing this ? Is a bug or a feature ? Will it be addressed (perhaps it has been)? I have seen some posts about various boot options helping the situation but nothing has worked for me yet.
My next move is to boot from usb dvd and try installing . After that I come to installing from the network.
Any help would be appreciated
John Minson wrote:
Trying to install f8 on intel core 2 duo/sata hdd/dvd writer/shuttle xpc . The problem with the install 'hanging' at the 'loading ata_piix driver' seems to be commonly reported but has several variants . My situation is of the form
- install 'stalls' at 'loading ata_piix driver' for a few minutes
- install eventually asks from whence you want to install
- seems the dvd drive we booted from is now 'lost'
Is there any info about what is causing this ? Is a bug or a feature ? Will it be addressed (perhaps it has been)? I have seen some posts about various boot options helping the situation but nothing has worked for me yet.
My next move is to boot from usb dvd and try installing . After that I come to installing from the network.
Any help would be appreciated
I can give some information regarding what I have seen to cause problems. One problem is with discs being burned on a DVD+R media using a burner would fail in that way. I ended up taking that disk on a DVD-R player and making an ISO of the disc. then burned another disc on a computer that only could write to DVD+R discs, the target computer and after transferring the iso file make a successful recording from the target machine and proceeded afterward to successfully upgrade the computer. There was also another problem related to the DVD burner not being recognized and it would report the CD/DVD as /media/disk. This sounds like on a guess what is happening to you. I don't know if this is your problem but it was fixed from reporting the DVD burner, USB in my case and the burner worked on later Fedora release.
These situations may not be what is happening on your system. I am just trying to put out some possibilities.
Jim
after fighting with the 'loading ata_piix driver' issue I managed to get fc8 installed via a usb dvd drive . the install went fine but now when I boot off the hd (sata) I eventually get
ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 sactt serr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
it then displays 'loading udev' and hangs
once again this problem (or some variant there of) has been reported lots but no clear indication of what to do. I keep seeing references to the 'libpata' module having issues
Jim Cornette wrote:
John Minson wrote:
Trying to install f8 on intel core 2 duo/sata hdd/dvd writer/shuttle xpc . The problem with the install 'hanging' at the 'loading ata_piix driver' seems to be commonly reported but has several variants . My situation is of the form
- install 'stalls' at 'loading ata_piix driver' for a few minutes
- install eventually asks from whence you want to install
- seems the dvd drive we booted from is now 'lost'
Is there any info about what is causing this ? Is a bug or a feature ? Will it be addressed (perhaps it has been)? I have seen some posts about various boot options helping the situation but nothing has worked for me yet.
My next move is to boot from usb dvd and try installing . After that I come to installing from the network.
Any help would be appreciated
I can give some information regarding what I have seen to cause problems. One problem is with discs being burned on a DVD+R media using a burner would fail in that way. I ended up taking that disk on a DVD-R player and making an ISO of the disc. then burned another disc on a computer that only could write to DVD+R discs, the target computer and after transferring the iso file make a successful recording from the target machine and proceeded afterward to successfully upgrade the computer. There was also another problem related to the DVD burner not being recognized and it would report the CD/DVD as /media/disk. This sounds like on a guess what is happening to you. I don't know if this is your problem but it was fixed from reporting the DVD burner, USB in my case and the burner worked on later Fedora release.
These situations may not be what is happening on your system. I am just trying to put out some possibilities.
Jim
John Minson wrote:
after fighting with the 'loading ata_piix driver' issue I managed to get fc8 installed via a usb dvd drive . the install went fine but now when I boot off the hd (sata) I eventually get
ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 sactt serr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
it then displays 'loading udev' and hangs
once again this problem (or some variant there of) has been reported lots but no clear indication of what to do. I keep seeing references to the 'libpata' module having issues
I had similar issues (what is your hardware?) which I finally solved by telling the installer which modules to load instead of relying on the probe. I also have to use the 'noirqdebug' because of irq problems with my motherboard bios.
Try appending the following to your install line:
module=ata_piix module=pata_jmicron module=ata_generic noirqdebug
and:
noirqdebug
to the kernel line in grub.
by 'installer' do you mean the boot parms ?
Mark Knoop wrote:
John Minson wrote:
after fighting with the 'loading ata_piix driver' issue I managed to get fc8 installed via a usb dvd drive . the install went fine but now when I boot off the hd (sata) I eventually get
ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 sactt serr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
it then displays 'loading udev' and hangs
once again this problem (or some variant there of) has been reported lots but no clear indication of what to do. I keep seeing references to the 'libpata' module having issues
I had similar issues (what is your hardware?) which I finally solved by telling the installer which modules to load instead of relying on the probe. I also have to use the 'noirqdebug' because of irq problems with my motherboard bios.
Try appending the following to your install line:
module=ata_piix module=pata_jmicron module=ata_generic noirqdebug
and:
noirqdebug
to the kernel line in grub.
John Minson wrote:
by 'installer' do you mean the boot parms ?
Yes.
Mark Knoop wrote:
John Minson wrote:
after fighting with the 'loading ata_piix driver' issue I managed to get fc8 installed via a usb dvd drive . the install went fine but now when I boot off the hd (sata) I eventually get
ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 sactt serr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
it then displays 'loading udev' and hangs
once again this problem (or some variant there of) has been reported lots but no clear indication of what to do. I keep seeing references to the 'libpata' module having issues
I had similar issues (what is your hardware?) which I finally solved by telling the installer which modules to load instead of relying on the probe. I also have to use the 'noirqdebug' because of irq problems with my motherboard bios.
Try appending the following to your install line:
module=ata_piix module=pata_jmicron module=ata_generic noirqdebug
and:
noirqdebug
to the kernel line in grub.
John Minson wrote:
after fighting with the 'loading ata_piix driver' issue I managed to get fc8 installed via a usb dvd drive . the install went fine but now when I boot off the hd (sata) I eventually get
ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 sactt serr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
it then displays 'loading udev' and hangs
once again this problem (or some variant there of) has been reported lots but no clear indication of what to do. I keep seeing references to the 'libpata' module having issues
It's great that the DVD got you further through the process. Apparently the Distribution linked below has a solution and a kernel available to remove the error.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=275504
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/26012
According to the comment that led to the above link, it is fixed in the next kernel series 2.6.24.
The next release is up to that version kernel. I'm not sure if later kernels would have a backported fix in it or not. The changelog shows these for a search for ata. The bugs should be found in bugzilla.
Jim ---
rpm -q --changelog kernel-2.6.23.14-107.fc8.i686 |grep ata - libata: fix AHCI controller reset (#411171) - libata: fix ATAPI tape drives (#394961) - libata: allow short SCSI commands for ATAPI devices - Fix libata handling of IO ready test (#389971) - libata: fix resume on some systems - libata: fix pata_serverworks with some drive combinations - Fix completely broken sata_sis libata driver (#365331) - nfs: fix writeback race causing data corruption - direct-io: fix return of stale data after DIO write - md/raid5: fix data corruption in some failure cases - Use upstream libata DMA disable patch (libata.dma parameter replaces libata.pata_dma) - leave boot option as "libata.pata_dma" for now - libata: change boot option name to "libata.dma" - add option to disable libata PATA DMA - Terminate list in ata-piix - add Intel ICH8M (Santa Rosa) PCI ID to ata_piix driver - As the x86-64 kernel is now relocatable, -kdump can go.
as it turns out the source of all my issues was the dvd drive itself. I installed a 9 year old dvd reader and everything works with no boot options or bios changes . I dont know if the dvd writer is broken or just sucks . The drive is a SAMSUNG|SH-S202N 20X =-O
Jim Cornette wrote:
John Minson wrote:
after fighting with the 'loading ata_piix driver' issue I managed to get fc8 installed via a usb dvd drive . the install went fine but now when I boot off the hd (sata) I eventually get
ata1.00 exception emask 0x0 sactt serr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
it then displays 'loading udev' and hangs
once again this problem (or some variant there of) has been reported lots but no clear indication of what to do. I keep seeing references to the 'libpata' module having issues
It's great that the DVD got you further through the process. Apparently the Distribution linked below has a solution and a kernel available to remove the error.
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=275504
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ide/26012
According to the comment that led to the above link, it is fixed in the next kernel series 2.6.24.
The next release is up to that version kernel. I'm not sure if later kernels would have a backported fix in it or not. The changelog shows these for a search for ata. The bugs should be found in bugzilla.
Jim
rpm -q --changelog kernel-2.6.23.14-107.fc8.i686 |grep ata
- libata: fix AHCI controller reset (#411171)
- libata: fix ATAPI tape drives (#394961)
- libata: allow short SCSI commands for ATAPI devices
- Fix libata handling of IO ready test (#389971)
- libata: fix resume on some systems
- libata: fix pata_serverworks with some drive combinations
- Fix completely broken sata_sis libata driver (#365331)
- nfs: fix writeback race causing data corruption
- direct-io: fix return of stale data after DIO write
- md/raid5: fix data corruption in some failure cases
- Use upstream libata DMA disable patch (libata.dma parameter replaces libata.pata_dma)
- leave boot option as "libata.pata_dma" for now
- libata: change boot option name to "libata.dma"
- add option to disable libata PATA DMA
- Terminate list in ata-piix
- add Intel ICH8M (Santa Rosa) PCI ID to ata_piix driver
- As the x86-64 kernel is now relocatable, -kdump can go.
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 12:35 -0500, John Minson wrote:
as it turns out the source of all my issues was the dvd drive itself. I installed a 9 year old dvd reader and everything works with no boot options or bios changes . I dont know if the dvd writer is broken or just sucks . The drive is a SAMSUNG|SH-S202N 20X =-O
Jim Cornette wrote:
I have had a similar problem with Fedora 8 and two different 2-3 year-old DVD/CD burner/reader and two almost identical 64-bit Athlon systems. I first had this problem starting with Fedora 6, although the symptoms differed. (I never tried installing F7 on these 64 bit Athlon machines.) In F6, the install would install almost all the packages and then hang after about 95%. With F8, after booting the install DVD, some disk drive drivers would be installed and then it could not find the DVD/CD device. My solution was to use a much older CD burner/DVD reader combo drive. (I also installed from CD's instead of using a DVD and that worked fine but is a pain.)
I have no idea what is different about the newer drives that prevents Fedora 6 and 8 from installing. No one has ventured a reason for this strange behavior. I don't know if the drives are at fault or it's something weird with Fedora.
One of the problematic drives appears to be an IOMagick DVD drive (model number DD0203 but does not include a brand name).
Rick B.
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 07:29 -0500, John Minson wrote:
LiteOn dvd writer from Walmart works fine
Rick Bilonick wrote:
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 12:35 -0500, John Minson wrote:
as it turns out the source of all my issues was the dvd drive itself. I installed a 9 year old dvd reader and everything works with no boot options or bios changes . I dont know if the dvd writer is broken or just sucks . The drive is a SAMSUNG|SH-S202N 20X =-O
Jim Cornette wrote:
Thanks. I will check this out - I'm tired of moving the one drive from machine to machine!
Rick B.
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