Suddenly after last updates any usb stick is only real on my sistems but I can access them from terminal (writing is allowed) .Any idea??
Allegedly, on or about 13 December 2017, Antonio M sent:
Suddenly after last updates any usb stick is only real on my sistems but I can access them from terminal (writing is allowed) .Any idea??
Have you rebooted since the update?
Tim, you are right: after reboot anything worked again.
I apologize for the delay in answering but your email was sent to Spam, shame on Gmail :-)
Antonio Montagnani
Linux Fedora 27(Workstation) da/from Gmail
2017-12-13 9:03 GMT+01:00 Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au:
Allegedly, on or about 13 December 2017, Antonio M sent:
Suddenly after last updates any usb stick is only real on my sistems but I can access them from terminal (writing is allowed) .Any idea??
Have you rebooted since the update?
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Allegedly, on or about 13 December 2017, Antonio M sent:
Tim, you are right: after reboot anything worked again.
It's not always necessary, but worth remembering that if things behave oddly after software updates you may have to:
a. Log out and back in again. b. Or, reboot.
It depends on what was in the set of updates.
I apologize for the delay in answering but your email was sent to Spam, shame on Gmail :-)
That's down to another flawed idea about spam rejection (in this case, because of the mailing list sending mail *from* me through their service). Nothing I can do about it, little the mailing list can do about it, and you probably can't do anything much about it, either.
I gave up on anti-spam software, years ago. I just make sure that my email addresses are kept private. I get very few spams, and don't have to deal with false positives and negatives.
On 12/14/2017 03:17 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 13 December 2017, Antonio M sent:
Tim, you are right: after reboot anything worked again.
It's not always necessary, but worth remembering that if things behave oddly after software updates you may have to:
a. Log out and back in again. b. Or, reboot.
It depends on what was in the set of updates.
And this is exactly why the default is to do offline updates.
Tim:
It's not always necessary, but worth remembering that if things behave oddly after software updates you may have to:
a. Log out and back in again. b. Or, reboot.
It depends on what was in the set of updates.
Having said the above, I rarely have to do that.
Samuel Sieb:
And this is exactly why the default is to do offline updates.
Which, would mean, in my case, and many others, that updates wouldn't get done. And I intensely dislike the lazy approach of "we'll just make you reboot," rather than work out how to do an update that doesn't needed it. This isn't Windows.
On 12/15/2017 12:12 AM, Tim wrote:
Which, would mean, in my case, and many others, that updates wouldn't get done. And I intensely dislike the lazy approach of "we'll just make you reboot," rather than work out how to do an update that doesn't needed it. This isn't Windows.
Yup! I don't use either Gnome, or their GUI updater. I use dnf from the command line and almost never reboot unless there's a new kernel. I heart uptime.
same here, I will use dnf on command line, unless gnomesoftware will not clear cache automatically. Most users have Gbytes on uneeded rpm's stored in a cache.
Antonio Montagnani
Linux Fedora 27(Workstation) da/from Gmail
2017-12-15 9:43 GMT+01:00 Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us:
On 12/15/2017 12:12 AM, Tim wrote:
Which, would mean, in my case, and many others, that updates wouldn't get done. And I intensely dislike the lazy approach of "we'll just make you reboot," rather than work out how to do an update that doesn't needed it. This isn't Windows.
Yup! I don't use either Gnome, or their GUI updater. I use dnf from the command line and almost never reboot unless there's a new kernel. I heart uptime.
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On Fri, 2017-12-15 at 00:43 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/15/2017 12:12 AM, Tim wrote:
Which, would mean, in my case, and many others, that updates wouldn't get done. And I intensely dislike the lazy approach of "we'll just make you reboot," rather than work out how to do an update that doesn't needed it. This isn't Windows.
Yup! I don't use either Gnome, or their GUI updater. I use dnf from the command line and almost never reboot unless there's a new kernel. I heart uptime.
Ditto, plus using 'tracer'.
poc
On 12/15/2017 12:12 AM, Tim wrote:
Tim:
It's not always necessary, but worth remembering that if things behave oddly after software updates you may have to:
a. Log out and back in again. b. Or, reboot.
It depends on what was in the set of updates.
Having said the above, I rarely have to do that.
Samuel Sieb:
And this is exactly why the default is to do offline updates.
Which, would mean, in my case, and many others, that updates wouldn't get done. And I intensely dislike the lazy approach of "we'll just make you reboot," rather than work out how to do an update that doesn't needed it. This isn't Windows.
I think you missed my point. For a typical user, they won't understand why things are acting strangely. That's why it's the default to do offline updates. It doesn't stop you from doing them live. I do that, but then I also usually reboot as well at a convenient time because there's usually a new kernel in the updates.
If you want to figure out how do updates without requiring a reboot then go for it! No one else thinks it's worth their time to solve it because most people don't think it's a problem and the ones that understand it realize how hard it is to solve if it's even possible.
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