yum or dnf question

[Joachim Backes]

Hi guys,

is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
downloaded from koji)?

Example: I need such a mechanism if mutual dependencies exist between
pkgs from the repo and the rpm on my box.

KInd regards

Joachim Backes

[Chris Murphy]

On Dec 19, 2014 1:55 AM, "Joachim Backes" 
wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
> repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
> downloaded from koji)?

Yes. I do it all the time.

mkdir blah
cd blah
curl -Os blah.rpm &
dnf upgrade *rpm

Chris

[Joachim Backes]

On 12/19/2014 10:16 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Dec 19, 2014 1:55 AM, "Joachim Backes" <[e-mail]
> > wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
> > repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
> > downloaded from koji)?
>
> Yes. I do it all the time.
>
> mkdir blah
> cd blah
> curl -Os blah.rpm &
> dnf upgrade *rpm
>
> Chris

Hi Chris,

that means I have to download *all* rpms before running update/upgrade?

I wanted to avoid this.

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 12/19/2014 10:31 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 12/19/2014 10:16 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 2014 1:55 AM, "Joachim Backes" <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
> > > repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
> > > downloaded from koji)?
> >
> > Yes. I do it all the time.
> that means I have to download *all* rpms before running update/upgrade?

Yes and no. If you don't know which ones you need, you need all of them. 
If you know which subset you need, you only need those.
> I wanted to avoid this.

That's the difference between "a bunch of rpms" and a repository ;)

Ralf

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 10:31 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 12/19/2014 10:16 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 2014 1:55 AM, "Joachim Backes" <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
> > > repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
> > > downloaded from koji)?
> >
> > Yes. I do it all the time.
> >
> > mkdir blah
> > cd blah
> > curl -Os blah.rpm &
> > dnf upgrade *rpm
> >
> > Chris
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> that means I have to download *all* rpms before running update/upgrade?

yum will download those RPMs it needs to resolve dependencies (from the
repos you have configured). Preumably dnf does the same.

poc

[Chris Murphy]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:31 AM, Joachim Backes
 wrote:
> On 12/19/2014 10:16 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 2014 1:55 AM, "Joachim Backes" <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi guys,
> > >
> > > is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
> > > repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
> > > downloaded from koji)?
> >
> > Yes. I do it all the time.
> >
> > mkdir blah
> > cd blah
> > curl -Os blah.rpm &
> > dnf upgrade *rpm
> >
> > Chris
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> that means I have to download *all* rpms before running update/upgrade?

Pretty sure it finds dependencies as long as they're in an enabled
repo. For example if you get a kernel off koji that isn't in any repo
yet, and you only download the kernel file, the command can't go get
kernel-core and kernel-modules, so in that case yes you have to have
all the rpms downloaded.

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 12/19/2014 09:55 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
> repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
> downloaded from koji)?

Yes. yum/dnf only care about dependencies between installed and to-be 
installed packages from repos.

I.e. yum/dnf won't notice you have a locally built package installed 
until some dependency breaks.
> Example: I need such a mechanism if mutual dependencies exist between
> pkgs from the repo and the rpm on my box.

In general, I'd recommend to setup a local repo and to pull packages 
from there, instead.

Ralf

[Dr J Austin]

On Fri, 2014-12-19 at 09:55 +0100, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> is it possible to run "yum/dnf update [<some pkgs>]" (from the official
> repos) together with some rpm file residing on my box (for example
> downloaded from koji)?
>
> Example: I need such a mechanism if mutual dependencies exist between
> pkgs from the repo and the rpm on my box.
>
> KInd regards
> Joachim Backes
>
> Fedora release 21 (Twenty One)
> Kernel-3.17.6-300.fc21.x86_64
>
> Joachim Backes 
> https://www-user.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes

Hi
I use the following method to achieve this - there may
be a better method

I have a local-20-update repo which I populate with "update" rpms
and then run createrepo

When I run yum, the "cost=1" setting forces this repo to be used first
If an rpm or dependency is required that is not available locally
it will be down loaded from the "normal" remote repo

Each of my machines are set to pick up "updates" locally if possible

ja@paxos yum.repos.d 4$ cat local-20-update.repo
[local-20-update]
name=Local Fedora $releasever - $basearch - Updates
cost=1
baseurl=file:///global/local_repos/20/
enabled=1
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora-$basearch

John

PS
I also have a script that picks up "updates" 
and hence only one download is required for several machines