I was asked by one of the people working Fedora Infrastructure issue #8824 ("posts submitted to Fedora Users List getting lost") to try sending a 'text only' email and see if that gets dropped. I logged out, logged in to my root account where the font is set to Free Serif (not a UKai font!). I made sure root's Thunderbird was set to text only (no HTMl) for sending messages. I shut down Thunderbird.
I re-launched Thunderbird. This is the test message. To ensure a good test, it's a few paragraphs long with a few sentences in each paragraph.
I wonder if this will reach the user's list. Are there any occurrences of upper case 'A' with a "hat" (circumflex) in this message. I did not put any. But they have been occurring between sentences. They only show up when the message is viewed with Thunderbird's "View Source" function.
Time's up! Typing fingers down! Hand in the test!
On 4/11/20 2:52 PM, home user wrote:
I wonder if this will reach the user's list. Are there any occurrences of upper case 'A' with a "hat" (circumflex) in this message. I did not put any. But they have been occurring between sentences. They only show up when the message is viewed with Thunderbird's "View Source" function.
It arrived, no funny characters are visible. View source shows that it was sent as utf-8 encoded as base64.
On 2020-04-12 05:52, home user wrote:
I wonder if this will reach the user's list. Are there any occurrences of upper case 'A' with a "hat" (circumflex) in this message. I did not put any. But they have been occurring between sentences. They only show up when the message is viewed with Thunderbird's "View Source" function.
FWIW, the message you posted a screen shot of in the Issue Ticket arrived just fine in my "fedora" folder.
There are no instances of  which is
UTF-8: 0xC3 0x82 UTF-16: 0x00C2
On 2020-04-12 05:52, home user wrote:
And I should have read the first paragraph before saying what I did in the previous message.
Wake Up and Have Coffee.
On 2020-04-12 05:52, home user wrote:
Time's up! Typing fingers down! Hand in the test!
OK, in doing this "experiment" I seem to have found a small "bug" in Thunderbird.
I sent my first reply with a  LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH CIRCUMFLEX and it would seem to have made it to the list and into HyperKitty.
However, when I look at the "sent mail" in Thunderbird that character is actually show as à (LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH TILDE).
On 2020-04-12 05:52, home user wrote:
Time's up! Typing fingers down! Hand in the test!
OK, I'm really, really sorry for all of these "extraneous" messages. But, one more, as I'm getting really confused by T-Bird.
I just looked again in my "sent" mail folder at the message I sent at 07:25 my time. I used "view source" of T-Bird.
In the "quoted" portion which is taken from your message I see "reach the user's list." followed by the Upper Case A with circumflex.
In my reply I see "no instances of" and then an Upper Case A with a tilde.
The view in the "view source" does NOT match what is shown in the Main T-Bird.
In the main T-bird window there is no extraneous character shown in the quoted portion and what I typed is what is shown.
(general response) I don't mind the conversation here at all. It's interesting. But the information in this conversation is needed by the people handling the issue in Fedora Infrastructure. That's the important place to post your comments. The issue is here: "https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8824". My original post in this thread was merely a test.
More digging has me nearly convinced that the A-hat characters are not the problem. They were in messages I posted in this list before the upgrade, and those messages did not get lost or blocked. (I will post this observation in the thread also.)
Meanwhile, I could sure use help on the problem that I reported in my last post in the "upgrade attempts are failing." thread. That xeyes problem is real; I use xeyes for practical reasons, not merely for fun or cosmetic purposes, and it is new to f31.
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