On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:25:48 -0400 (EDT), Honza Šilhan wrote:
The more I think about it DNF does it right. You should report it to Fedora infrastructure. DNF shouldn't inspect all mirrors - you would waste too much resources then. We need a better mechanism. Just 1 reference repomd metadata with the most up-to-date metadata checksums (on one server only). Than we could detect the mirror DNF chose is outdated.
Stuff for everyone interested.
The feedback in the ticket I've opened is not encouraging so far. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4866
On 24.08.2015, Michael Schwendt wrote:
The feedback in the ticket I've opened is not encouraging so far. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4866
Maybe it's time to take a look at how other distributions do it. Arch's pacman has worked for me without any trouble a long time. And there is Opensuse & Co..
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:48:22 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
Maybe it's time to take a look at how other distributions do it. Arch's pacman has worked for me without any trouble a long time. And there is Opensuse & Co..
For such a step, evaluating where we are today should come first, IMO. Then you can compare with how others do it, whether they distribute their users to the same number of mirrors world-wide, or whether they prefer a few mirrors run by passioned admins.
The master repository is updated.
Announcements are mailed out.
Users read an announcement, but they don't "see" the updates yet. WTF? Why not? Forum posts around the world suggest "yum clean all" and "dnf clean all" as _the fix_. But it isn't a fix, if the nearby mirrors don't carry the changed repo contents yet. dnf --refresh doesn't force retrieval of latest repodata either. (And that it even reverted to old data is an unrelated bug in the implementation.) Any automatically triggered check of the metadata would have achieved the same, if done at the right time. Mirrors not being up-to-date, nothing new to fetch.
Updates become available as soon as they arrive on the nearby mirrors. Is that sent as a clear message to all Fedora users? I don't think so.
On average, how long does it take for updates to arrive on the mirrors? Is anything known here? How long does it take for updates to arrive in another country? Are there any high-priority mirrors, who likely carry the latest changes quickly after release? Would it be possible to assign users to nearby repos in a more reliable way? Questions, questions, questions.
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