Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
Sent: Sep 30, 2010 10:00 PM To: Sam Sharpe lists.redhat@samsharpe.net Cc: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: Can I know which fedora is stable?
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 00:43:28 +0100, Sam Sharpe lists.redhat@samsharpe.net wrote:
On 1 October 2010 00:40, Gordon Messmer yinyang@eburg.com wrote:
On 09/30/2010 08:56 AM, James Mckenzie wrote:
However, be aware that Fedora tries to be on a six month or shorter release cycle. Fedora is basically a 'wide beta' for RedHat and that is also stated on the Project's web page.
Where is that stated?
It isn't stated in those terms, but it is an accepted representation of the status quo.
Not universally. There is a difference between being a beta and being an early show case of new technologies.
Fedora is used as an test platform for the various RedHat technology releases and Red Hat Linux has stated this from the first release of the program. That my friend is tech speak for 'wide beta'. Red Hat is very interested in what breaks for the common user of their Linux products and whether or not a fix works and does not cause further problems.
As to the six month cycle, that was also stated from the beginning. This is to allow 'refreshes' of the product and to allow folks to run on a clean build of Fedora.
Yes, there are 'alpha' and 'beta' releases of Fedora as well. This is to allow early detection of problems on the Fedora user base systems which vary from brand new equipment to equipment twenty years old (yes there are folks running Fedora on Pentium II based systems and it works unlike a major name brand operating system.)
So, if we are using 'stable' as in released, Fedora Core 13 is the latest with Fedora Core 14 in the soon to be release state (beta) if nothing goes majorly wrong. This is as clear an answer to the OPs original question.
Again, the Fedora project does not recommend running FC in a production environment because things do go wrong, but they do want people to 'beat the bugs out' and run it in a similiar to environment (use it as if you were on production, but not with critical, cannot loose data.)
James McKenzie
On Fri, Oct 01, 2010 at 06:54:57 -0700, James Mckenzie jjmckenzie51@earthlink.net wrote:
Fedora is used as an test platform for the various RedHat technology releases and Red Hat Linux has stated this from the first release of the program. That my friend is tech speak for 'wide beta'. Red Hat is very interested in what breaks for the common user of their Linux products and whether or not a fix works and does not cause further problems.
It's on a different scale though and different kinds of issues are expected. Fedora releases are supposed to work. Some of the new technology make work in the sense of not having an unusually high number of bugs, but have issues with usability or other things.
Again, the Fedora project does not recommend running FC in a production environment because things do go wrong, but they do want people to 'beat the bugs out' and run it in a similiar to environment (use it as if you were on production, but not with critical, cannot loose data.)
Really, where to you see that recommendation? Fedora releases are not supposed to have data loss bugs. The reason many people (inluding myself) don't recommend it for servers (production or not) is that it's too much work to maintain because of the rapid release cycle, not because it doesn't work. That said, I do run it on my personal servers because computing is a hobby and I am willing to do the work needed.
Around 02:54pm on Friday, October 01, 2010 (UK time), James Mckenzie scrawled:
Fedora is used as an test platform for the various RedHat technology releases and Red Hat Linux has stated this from the first release of the program.
Can you give any cites for Red Hat stating this?
Steve
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