So long nouveau

[Tom Horsley]

Well I've been using my newly installed fedora 26 boot partition
for all of a half day, and the nouveau driver just completely froze
up the display (exactly the same thing that happened on fedora 24
with nouveau). I guess I'm off to look through the logs for any
info and then install the rpmfusion nvidia binaries.

[evade.]

I'm having the same problem with Wayland enabled.

Although I don't get the error message in this link, it might be the same bug. I have
one of the affected graphics cards.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/Common#Wayland_sessions_crash_on_star...


Evade


On 28 July 2017 3:32:50 am AEST, Tom Horsley <horsley1953(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> Well I've been using my newly installed fedora 26 boot partition
> for all of a half day, and the nouveau driver just completely froze
> up the display (exactly the same thing that happened on fedora 24
> with nouveau). I guess I'm off to look through the logs for any
> info and then install the rpmfusion nvidia binaries.
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[ChunYu Wang]

But as far as I know.. The compatibility maybe depend on graphics card
vendor's customization.... Once upon a time I 've got a piece of nv
card by GIGABYTE, and the CUDA driver can only run as expected on
Fedora 23/24, but not Ubuntu or even CentOS.

Feel like dying with driving the graphics card on Linux....

- Chunyu

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:16 AM, evade. <evade(a)internode.on.net&gt; wrote:
> I'm having the same problem with Wayland enabled.
>
> Although I don't get the error message in this link, it might be the same
> bug. I have one of the affected graphics cards.
>
>
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs/Common#Wayland_sessions_crash_on_star...
>
>
> Evade
>
>
> On 28 July 2017 3:32:50 am AEST, Tom Horsley <horsley1953(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>>
>> Well I've been using my newly installed fedora 26 boot partition
>> for all of a half day, and the nouveau driver just completely froze
>> up the display (exactly the same thing that happened on fedora 24
>> with nouveau). I guess I'm off to look through the logs for any
>> info and then install the rpmfusion nvidia binaries.
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>>
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>
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 07/27/2017 08:56 PM, ChunYu Wang wrote:
>  Feel like dying with driving the graphics card on Linux.... 
No, that's just the problem with NVidia cards.  Use an AMD or Intel 
graphics and you're very unlikely to have a problem.

[ChunYu Wang]

Yes, I AGREE!

But one of the key features upon NV cards is CUDA, which we cannot use
it on other platforms. Though OpenCL is another solution to achieve
GPGPU resolutions, but it is hard to learn and hard to use, at least,
for me..

- Chunyu

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net&gt; wrote:
> On 07/27/2017 08:56 PM, ChunYu Wang wrote:
>>
>> Feel like dying with driving the graphics card on Linux....
>
>
> No, that's just the problem with NVidia cards.  Use an AMD or Intel graphics
> and you're very unlikely to have a problem.
>
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[Amadeus W.M.]

On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 14:18:16 +0800, ChunYu Wang wrote:

>  Yes, I AGREE!
>  
>  But one of the key features upon NV cards is CUDA, which we cannot use
>  it on other platforms. Though OpenCL is another solution to achieve
>  GPGPU resolutions, but it is hard to learn and hard to use, at least,
>  for me..
>  
>  - Chunyu 
I can't use cuda on fedora either, because gcc that comes with fedora is 
way too recent for cuda. I'm not sure now, but about a year ago gcc-5.2 
was the highest version cuda would tolerate, and that was experimental. 
Regularly it wanted gcc 4.9 I think. Don't know now, but I doubt cuda 
will like gcc-7.x.

[Richard Shaw]

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Amadeus W.M. <amadeus84(a)verizon.net&gt; wrote:

>  I can't use cuda on fedora either, because gcc that comes with fedora is
>  way too recent for cuda. I'm not sure now, but about a year ago gcc-5.2
>  was the highest version cuda would tolerate, and that was experimental.
>  Regularly it wanted gcc 4.9 I think. Don't know now, but I doubt cuda
>  will like gcc-7.x. 

Maybe a good way to work around such issues is to use a docker container?

https://hub.docker.com/r/nvidia/cuda/

Thanks,
Richard

[Amadeus W.M.]

On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 07:09:58 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:

>  On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Amadeus W.M.
> <amadeus84(a)verizon.net&gt;
>  wrote:
>  
>  
> > I can't use cuda on fedora either, because gcc that comes with fedora
> > is way too recent for cuda. I'm not sure now, but about a year ago
> > gcc-5.2 was the highest version cuda would tolerate, and that was
> > experimental. Regularly it wanted gcc 4.9 I think. Don't know now, but
> > I doubt cuda will like gcc-7.x.
>  
>  
>  Maybe a good way to work around such issues is to use a docker
>  container?
>  
>  https://hub.docker.com/r/nvidia/cuda/
>   
Oh, excellent suggestion! I didn't know they provide docker images. 
Thanks!

[Tom Horsley]

I did find some messages in the log, so I added
this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1475994

[Amadeus W.M.]

On Thu, 27 Jul 2017 13:32:50 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

>  Well I've been using my newly installed fedora 26 boot partition
> for all
>  of a half day, and the nouveau driver just completely froze up the
>  display (exactly the same thing that happened on fedora 24 with
>  nouveau). I guess I'm off to look through the logs for any info and then
>  install the rpmfusion nvidia binaries.
>  _______________________________________________
>  users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send
>  an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org 
I started to have this problem in F25 (after some recent upgrade, not 
from the beginning) but it seems gone (knock on wood) in F26. 

I'm having the same problem at work on an Ubuntu workstation (16.04 I 
think?) but only when using gnome (or mate). No problems yet under Unity. 
So perhaps something in gnome triggers the crash in nouveau. 

The whole system doesn't crash, only the X-server (or wayland) and you 
can ssh into the system from another machine and run dmesg. The last 
things you see are nouveau error messages.