FC4 - File System with Errors!

[Hoffmann]

Hello:

I realized that since the beginning of the week,
during the booting process, I have got the follow
error:

/1. Contains a file system with errors, check forced.

In the majority of the times, after that error, the
system restarts normally. However, one day, it didn't
work, and I needed to cut the power off manually.

What does that error mean? Should I reinstall Fedora,
just in case?

Thanks!
Hoffmann

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[Peter Arremann]

On Saturday 28 January 2006 19:37, Hoffmann wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I realized that since the beginning of the week,
> during the booting process, I have got the follow
> error:
>
> /1. Contains a file system with errors, check forced.
>
> In the majority of the times, after that error, the
> system restarts normally.

Why are you gettting that so often? You should only get the file system check 
only if your system crashes or you power it off without a proper shutdown. 
Either that, or your disk is going bad.
> However, one day, it didn't 
> work, and I needed to cut the power off manually.

That fixed the issue? I'm surprised. You should have used fsck to check your 
filesystem completely.
> What does that error mean? Should I reinstall Fedora,
> just in case?

Either your system wasn't shut down properly or your harddisk is dying...

Peter.

[Hoffmann]

--- Peter Arremann  wrote:
> On Saturday 28 January 2006 19:37, Hoffmann wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > I realized that since the beginning of the week,
> > during the booting process, I have got the follow
> > error:
> >
> > /1. Contains a file system with errors, check
>
> forced.
> > In the majority of the times, after that error,
>
> the
> > system restarts normally.
>
> Why are you gettting that so often? You should only
> get the file system check 
> only if your system crashes or you power it off
> without a proper shutdown. 
> Either that, or your disk is going bad.
> > However, one day, it didn't 
> > work, and I needed to cut the power off manually.
>
> That fixed the issue? I'm surprised. You should have
> used fsck to check your 
> filesystem completely.
> > What does that error mean? Should I reinstall
>
> Fedora,
> > just in case?
>
> Either your system wasn't shut down properly or your
> harddisk is dying...
>
> Peter.
>
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Hi Peter,

I just used fsck to check my filesystem, and I got no
error.

What do you think?

It seems like I am alright, so?

Thanks!
Hofmmann

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[Jeff Vian]

On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 20:21 -0800, Hoffmann wrote:
> --- Peter Arremann  wrote:
> > On Saturday 28 January 2006 19:37, Hoffmann wrote:
> > > Hello:
> > >
> > > I realized that since the beginning of the week,
> > > during the booting process, I have got the follow
> > > error:
> > >
> > > /1. Contains a file system with errors, check
> >
> > forced.
> > > In the majority of the times, after that error,
> >
> > the
> > > system restarts normally.
> >
> > Why are you gettting that so often? You should only
> > get the file system check 
> > only if your system crashes or you power it off
> > without a proper shutdown. 
> > Either that, or your disk is going bad.
> > > However, one day, it didn't 
> > > work, and I needed to cut the power off manually.
> >
> > That fixed the issue? I'm surprised. You should have
> > used fsck to check your 
> > filesystem completely.
> > > What does that error mean? Should I reinstall
> >
> > Fedora,
> > > just in case?
> >
> > Either your system wasn't shut down properly or your
> > harddisk is dying...
> >
> > Peter.
> >
> > -- 
> > fedora-list mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I just used fsck to check my filesystem, and I got no
> error.
>
> What do you think?
>
> It seems like I am alright, so?

If this is happening on a frequent basis and you cannot otherwise
identify why, it could be a drive failing.

Use hdparm to test it and find out what has already been logged on the
drive for errors.

[Bob Chiodini]

Jeff Vian wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 20:21 -0800, Hoffmann wrote:
> > --- Peter Arremann  wrote:
> > > On Saturday 28 January 2006 19:37, Hoffmann wrote:
> > > > Hello:
> > > >
> > > > I realized that since the beginning of the week,
> > > > during the booting process, I have got the follow
> > > > error:
> > > >
> > > > /1. Contains a file system with errors, check
> > >
> > > forced.
> > > > In the majority of the times, after that error,
> > >
> > > the
> > > > system restarts normally.
> > >
> > > Why are you gettting that so often? You should only
> > > get the file system check 
> > > only if your system crashes or you power it off
> > > without a proper shutdown. 
> > > Either that, or your disk is going bad.
> > > > However, one day, it didn't 
> > > > work, and I needed to cut the power off manually.
> > >
> > > That fixed the issue? I'm surprised. You should have
> > > used fsck to check your 
> > > filesystem completely.
> > > > What does that error mean? Should I reinstall
> > >
> > > Fedora,
> > > > just in case?
> > >
> > > Either your system wasn't shut down properly or your
> > > harddisk is dying...
> > >
> > > Peter.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > fedora-list mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
> >
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I just used fsck to check my filesystem, and I got no
> > error.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > It seems like I am alright, so?
>
> If this is happening on a frequent basis and you cannot otherwise
> identify why, it could be a drive failing.
>
> Use hdparm to test it and find out what has already been logged on the
> drive for errors.

Try the SMART tools, such as smartctl.  man smartctl.

Bob...

[Alessandro Brezzi]

2006/1/29, Hoffmann :
> Hi Peter,
>
> I just used fsck to check my filesystem, and I got no
> error.
>
> What do you think?
>
> It seems like I am alright, so?
>
> Thanks!
> Hofmmann

Hi Hoffmann,
is your HD a SATA drive? It happen to me the same with such a drive and it
turn out the connector was not properly plugged in the MoBo.
Just my 2 EuroCents
HTH

--
Alessandro Brezzi

[Hoffmann]

--- Alessandro Brezzi 
wrote:
> 2006/1/29, Hoffmann :
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > I just used fsck to check my filesystem, and I got
>
> no
> > error.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > It seems like I am alright, so?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Hofmmann
>
> Hi Hoffmann,
> is your HD a SATA drive? It happen to me the same
> with such a drive and it
> turn out the connector was not properly plugged in
> the MoBo.
> Just my 2 EuroCents
> HTH
>
> --
> Alessandro Brezzi
> > --

Hi Alessandro,

Yes, my HD is a SATA. And, as you can see from my
previous posting ("FC4 - SERIOUS problem with GRUB.
How can I solve this?"), now I have neither Windows
nor Fedora. I am stuggling to have my OS's back...

Hoffmann

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[Alessandro Brezzi]

2006/1/30, Hoffmann [e-mail]:
> Hi Alessandro,
>
> Yes, my HD is a SATA. And, as you can see from my
> previous posting ("FC4 - SERIOUS problem with GRUB.
> How can I solve this?"), now I have neither Windows
> nor Fedora. I am stuggling to have my OS's back...
>
> Hoffmann

Can you assure your CD / DVD drive is working? Please try mount the drive in
another box to see if it is working.
Have you tried to boot the same CD /DVD of Fedora in a different PC?
Is you PC booting from a live distro if the SATA drive is disconnected?

If all the answer are affermative (I assume your SATA drive is connected to
the integrated VIA / nVIDIA controller), chance are your MoBo have some
problem.

--
Alessandro Brezzi

[Hoffmann]

--- Alessandro Brezzi 
wrote:
> 2006/1/30, Hoffmann [e-mail]:
> > Hi Alessandro,
> >
> > Yes, my HD is a SATA. And, as you can see from my
> > previous posting ("FC4 - SERIOUS problem with
>
> GRUB.
> > How can I solve this?"), now I have neither
>
> Windows
> > nor Fedora. I am stuggling to have my OS's back...
> >
> > Hoffmann
>
> Can you assure your CD / DVD drive is working?
> Please try mount the drive in
> another box to see if it is working.
> Have you tried to boot the same CD /DVD of Fedora in
> a different PC?
> Is you PC booting from a live distro if the SATA
> drive is disconnected?
>
> If all the answer are affermative (I assume your
> SATA drive is connected to
> the integrated VIA / nVIDIA controller), chance are
> your MoBo have some
> problem.
>
> --
> Alessandro Brezzi

Alessandro:

Both my CD/DVD drivers were working FINE!
All the mess happened after I deleted the Fedora
partition. Now all I have is a 'stupid' Grub ( grub>_
) prompt that is preventing me to boot to Windows.
Moreover, now I cannot even install Fedora back. 
What I did now was to call a technician to fix my
machine.

Hoffmann

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[Christofer C. Bell]

On 1/30/06, Hoffmann  wrote:
> Both my CD/DVD drivers were working FINE!
> All the mess happened after I deleted the Fedora
> partition. Now all I have is a 'stupid' Grub ( grub>_
> ) prompt that is preventing me to boot to Windows.
> Moreover, now I cannot even install Fedora back.
> What I did now was to call a technician to fix my
> machine.

If the machine has a floppy drive, get yourself a floppy made on a
Windows machine using the "Make System Disk" option (right click the
floppy drive on Windows, select Format, check off the System Disk
box).  Boot your Linux machine with it and run "fdisk /mbr".  That
should clear up the problem.

--
Chris

"I trust the Democrats to take away my money, which I can afford.  I
trust the Republicans to take away my freedom, which I cannot."

[Hoffmann]

--- "Christofer C. Bell" 
wrote:
> On 1/30/06, Hoffmann  wrote:
> > Both my CD/DVD drivers were working FINE!
> > All the mess happened after I deleted the Fedora
> > partition. Now all I have is a 'stupid' Grub (
>
> grub>_
> > ) prompt that is preventing me to boot to Windows.
> > Moreover, now I cannot even install Fedora back.
> > What I did now was to call a technician to fix my
> > machine.
>
> If the machine has a floppy drive, get yourself a
> floppy made on a
> Windows machine using the "Make System Disk" option
> (right click the
> floppy drive on Windows, select Format, check off
> the System Disk
> box).  Boot your Linux machine with it and run
> "fdisk /mbr".  That
> should clear up the problem.
>
> --
> Chris
>
> "I trust the Democrats to take away my money, which
> I can afford.  I
> trust the Republicans to take away my freedom, which
> I cannot."
>
> --

Hi Chris:

I don't have floppy drive. Would you suggest any
alternative?
Remember that my CDROM is not working for while...
Thanks!
Hoffmann

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[Christofer C. Bell]

On 1/30/06, Hoffmann  wrote:
> I don't have floppy drive. Would you suggest any
> alternative?
> Remember that my CDROM is not working for while...

If the machine has no means to boot from a source other than the
internal hard disk, and that's not working, then I'd say the US$10-20
investment in a floppy drive might be a good idea. ;-)  I do not
believe your issue is correctable without booting from alternative
media (CD-ROM, floppy, the network, another hard disk, etc).

--
Chris

"I trust the Democrats to take away my money, which I can afford.  I
trust the Republicans to take away my freedom, which I cannot."

[Jonathan Berry]

On 1/30/06, Hoffmann  wrote:
> Both my CD/DVD drivers were working FINE!
> All the mess happened after I deleted the Fedora
> partition. Now all I have is a 'stupid' Grub ( grub>_

grub> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
grub> chainloader +1

Try the above commands to get Windows to boot from the GRUB command
prompt.  Those assume that Windows is installed as normal on the first
partition of the first BIOS drive.  If that doesn't work, try tweaking
the (hd0,0).  GRUB supports tab completion and will show you what your
options should be.  You deleted your Fedora partition which had the
grub.conf on it which told GRUB where your OSes where installed.

Knowing a little about GRUB comes in handy at times:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
> ) prompt that is preventing me to boot to Windows.
> Moreover, now I cannot even install Fedora back.
> What I did now was to call a technician to fix my
> machine.

Best wishes if you decide to pursue that technician route... : )

Jonathan

> Yes, my HD is a SATA. And, as you can see from my
> previous posting ("FC4 - SERIOUS problem with GRUB.
> How can I solve this?"), now I have neither Windows
> nor Fedora. I am stuggling to have my OS's back...
>
> Hoffmann

Look there are two solutions to your problem:
1. Boot windows without fedora. Run the dos: fdisk /mbr
and you Windows will boot again.
2. You want fedora and Windows. Then clear up your CDROM using any of
the techniques suggested or call a repair person. Once the CDROM
works install fedora and the grub installed will be able to boot both
OS-s.