Install other Apps - HOW TO

[Terry R. Grier]

Hello.

I have installed my first linux.  Fedora3.

I want to use Thunderbird / and other programs.

I have read the manuals on redhat
Installation guide
Getting Started
and
Customize

And I cannot find a section that discusses how to install programs.
> From Mozilla it says that there is not install. you just download and "run" TB.

Couple of questions.
Where do I put programs?  In the Home? or another dir?  Opt?

I downloaded the Gzip and then extracted it in my home.
Then I went to ACTIONS and RUN "thunderbird"
nothing happened.

Please Advise ...

Respectfully,
T

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am So, den 28.11.2004 schrieb Terry R. Grier um 20:13:
> I have installed my first linux.  Fedora3.
>
> I want to use Thunderbird / and other programs.

Comes with FC3.

Use FC RPMs whenever you can and avoid source installs (just as you are
a beginner and will into not trivial problems else). Learn things step
by step and don't start with the difficult steps.
> T

www.fedorafaq.org

Alexander

[Terry R. Grier]

Understood.
Step by Step.

FC3 did not come with TB that I can see.

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Alexander Dalloz 
To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
Sent: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:27:17 +0100
Subject: Re: Install other Apps - HOW TO
> Am So, den 28.11.2004 schrieb Terry R. Grier um 20:13:
> > I have installed my first linux.  Fedora3.
> >
> > I want to use Thunderbird / and other programs.
>
> Comes with FC3.
>
> Use FC RPMs whenever you can and avoid source installs (just as you are
> a beginner and will into not trivial problems else). Learn things 
> step by step and don't start with the difficult steps.
> > T
>
> www.fedorafaq.org
>
> Alexander
>
> -- 
> Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | new address - new key: 0xB366A773
> legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html
> Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on Athlon kernel 2.6.9-1.6_FC2smp
>
> Serendipity 20:25:51 up 8 days, 15:13, load average: 0.44, 0.42, 0.42

------- End of Original Message -------

[Doug Maurer]

On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 15:38 -0400, Terry R. Grier wrote:
> Understood.
> Step by Step.
>
> FC3 did not come with TB that I can see.

Go to system settings / add remove programs 
under "graphical internet" its the first option.

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am So, den 28.11.2004 schrieb Terry R. Grier um 20:38:

Please don't top-post
(http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html)!
> FC3 did not come with TB that I can see.

http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-core/3/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/thund...

You should learn to use "yum" for instance.

Alexander

[Terry R. Grier]

--------- Original Message -----------
From: Alexander Dalloz 
To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
Sent: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 20:48:35 +0100
Subject: Re: Install other Apps - HOW TO
> Am So, den 28.11.2004 schrieb Terry R. Grier um 20:38:
>
> Please don't top-post
> (http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html)!
> > FC3 did not come with TB that I can see.
>
> http://wftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/fedora-
> core/3/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/thunderbird-0.8.0-9.i386.rpm
>
> You should learn to use "yum" for instance.
>
> Alexander

OK...
Got TB installed.
Used YUM to learn
even tho. I figured out how to get it from the ADD APPLICATIONS.

How do I go about learning to install programs that are not listed via yum?

For example.. I require
Mozilla: SUNBIRD and NVU
and Moneydance

T
> -- 
> Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | new address - new key: 0xB366A773
> legal statement: http://www.uni-x.org/legal.html
> Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) on Athlon kernel 2.6.9-1.6_FC2smp
>
> Serendipity 20:48:11 up 8 days, 15:35, load average: 0.72, 0.63, 0.51

------- End of Original Message -------

[Matthew Miller]

On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:35:04PM -0400, Terry R. Grier wrote:
> How do I go about learning to install programs that are not listed via yum?

If you're lucky, they're packaged in a reputable third-party yum repository
-- see http://fedoratracker.org/tracker.py?mode=pkgSearch to search.

Otherwise, there's a _lot_ to learn. Here's one place to start
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html. (Although it's a
little out of date -- software like yum solves the main problem the author
has with RPM packages.)

[Terry R. Grier]

---------- Original Message -----------
From: Matthew Miller 
To: For users of Fedora Core releases 
Sent: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 15:39:30 -0500
Subject: Re: Install other Apps - HOW TO
> On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:35:04PM -0400, Terry R. Grier wrote:
> > How do I go about learning to install programs that are not listed via yum?
>
> If you're lucky, they're packaged in a reputable third-party yum repository
> -- see http://fedoratracker.org/tracker.py?mode=pkgSearch to search.
>
> Otherwise, there's a _lot_ to learn. Here's one place to start
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html. (Although 
> it's a little out of date -- software like yum solves the main 
> problem the author has with RPM packages.)

Wow... as a newbie.. I guess...I should have "read" more info... which I have
read.. quite a bit.. and I never saw anything about this install issue.

I basiclly switched to be MS free and thought that programs like mozilla TB,
Sunbird, NVU ... and programs like moneydance ... had linux versions... so
that I could make the switch and use all of my same programs.

I guess.. I am going to have to learn how to install these programs...some how..

[Matthew Miller]

On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 04:52:59PM -0400, Terry R. Grier wrote:
> I basiclly switched to be MS free and thought that programs like mozilla
> TB, Sunbird, NVU ... and programs like moneydance ... had linux
> versions... so that I could make the switch and use all of my same
> programs.

Well, you basically can. However, most packages main method of distribution
-- the only fail-safe one -- is in source code form. So, you need to either
build the package from source yourself, or use a compiled ("binary", we say
-- even though of course the source code is technically stored in binary
format too, it's at least human-readable). Luckily for new users and anyone
who values convenience, there's quite a few high-quality, trusted sources of
binary packages these days -- Fedora Core itself is one, and Fedora Extras
and the various well-known third-party package collections like FreshRPMs or
Dag Weirs' DAG repository.
> I guess.. I am going to have to learn how to install these programs...some how..
>
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