Dock & window switching issues in Fedora 35

[Matt Morgan]

Hi. I recently upgraded to Fedora 35. I would like to change two behaviors
back to what I had before:

1) when I mouse up to the hot corner, the application dock is now at the
bottom of the screen. How can I get the dock to position itself vertically
along the left side of the screen? I've tried a few gnome extensions but
none I can find does that (except when floating the dock, which is not what
I want).

2) When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window list
(e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for Thunderbird,
not two). I think I used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab" to
change this, but that extension doesn't seem to be available for F35.

Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome anymore. The one
I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a substitute?

Thanks,
Matt

[Todd Zullinger]

Hi,

Matt Morgan wrote:
> Hi. I recently upgraded to Fedora 35. I would like to change two behaviors
> back to what I had before:
> when I mouse up to the hot corner, the application dock is now at the
>
> bottom of the screen. How can I get the dock to position itself vertically
> along the left side of the screen? I've tried a few gnome extensions but
> none I can find does that (except when floating the dock, which is not what
> I want).

I don't know about this, as I don't make use of the dock.
Hopefully someone else will know a way to do what you want.

If there isn't an easier way to move the dock, maybe the
dash-to-dock extension could be useful?

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/

That doesn't look to be packaged for fedora, so you'd need
to install it from the extensions site or package it. :)
> When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window list
>
> (e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for Thunderbird,
> not two). I think I used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab" to
> change this, but that extension doesn't seem to be available for F35.

The alt-tab extension isn't needed (and apparently hasn't
been for some time -- I only noticed that around f33 or f34,
as I used it as well).  You can set alt-tab to switch
windows instead of applications.

This can be done via the keyboard shortcuts UI, but I find
it's simpler to do via gsettings.  I haven't updated to f35
yet, but for f33 and f34, this is what I do (I don't expect
it has changed, but caveat emptor):

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications "[]"
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications-backward "[]"
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows "['<Alt>Tab', '<Super>Tab']"
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows-backward "['<Alt><Shift>Tab', '<Super><Shift>Tab']"
> Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome anymore. The one
> I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a substitute?

I still see the openweather extension in the repos for f35:

$ dnf -q list gnome-shell-extension-openweather | cat
  Available Packages
  gnome-shell-extension-openweather.noarch
  1-0.49.20210509gitd714eb1.fc35  updates

Is it not available or not installable for you?

[c. marlow]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:48:21 -0500
Todd Zullinger  wrote:
> If there isn't an easier way to move the dock, maybe the
> dash-to-dock extension could be useful?
>
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
>
> That doesn't look to be packaged for fedora, so you'd need
> to install it from the extensions site or package it. :)

Is there a substitute?
>

I am using Dash to Dock here in Fedora 35

Chris

[Matt Morgan]

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:49 PM Todd Zullinger  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Matt Morgan wrote:
> > Hi. I recently upgraded to Fedora 35. I would like to change two
>
> behaviors
> > back to what I had before:
> > when I mouse up to the hot corner, the application dock is now at the
> >
> > bottom of the screen. How can I get the dock to position itself
>
> vertically
> > along the left side of the screen? I've tried a few gnome extensions but
> > none I can find does that (except when floating the dock, which is not
>
> what
> > I want).
>
> I don't know about this, as I don't make use of the dock.
> Hopefully someone else will know a way to do what you want.
>
> If there isn't an easier way to move the dock, maybe the
> dash-to-dock extension could be useful?
>
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
>
> That doesn't look to be packaged for fedora, so you'd need
> to install it from the extensions site or package it. :)

Thanks, yes, it's a good suggestion but not what I want.

Is there a good reason the dock has been moved almost as far as possible
from the most sensible hot corner? I thought the whole idea is that the
top-left corner is fastest for most people to get to, and then the dock was
right there. Why would it be on the bottom now? It defeats the purpose.
> > When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window list
> >
> > (e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for
>
> Thunderbird,
> > not two). I think I used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab"
>
> to
> > change this, but that extension doesn't seem to be available for F35.
>
> The alt-tab extension isn't needed (and apparently hasn't
> been for some time -- I only noticed that around f33 or f34,
> as I used it as well).  You can set alt-tab to switch
> windows instead of applications.
>
> This can be done via the keyboard shortcuts UI, but I find
> it's simpler to do via gsettings.  I haven't updated to f35
> yet, but for f33 and f34, this is what I do (I don't expect
> it has changed, but caveat emptor):
>
> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications "[]"
>   gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
> switch-applications-backward "[]"
>   gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows
> "['<Alt>Tab', '<Super>Tab']"
>   gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows-backward
> "['<Alt><Shift>Tab', '<Super><Shift>Tab']"

Thanks! I found it in the keyboard shortcuts settings and swapped them.
> > Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome anymore. The
>
> one
> > I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a substitute?
>
> I still see the openweather extension in the repos for f35:
>
> $ dnf -q list gnome-shell-extension-openweather | cat
>   Available Packages
>   gnome-shell-extension-openweather.noarch
>   1-0.49.20210509gitd714eb1.fc35  updates
>
> Is it not available or not installable for you?

Oh, it's there, I just thought we didn't do that anymore and they were all
in extensions.gnome.org. That's confusing. Anyway, thanks! I installed it.

[Todd Zullinger]

Matt Morgan wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:49 PM Todd Zullinger  wrote:
> > I still see the openweather extension in the repos for f35:
> >
> > $ dnf -q list gnome-shell-extension-openweather | cat
> >   Available Packages
> >   gnome-shell-extension-openweather.noarch
> >   1-0.49.20210509gitd714eb1.fc35  updates
> >
> > Is it not available or not installable for you?
>
> Oh, it's there, I just thought we didn't do that anymore and they were all
> in extensions.gnome.org. That's confusing. Anyway, thanks! I installed it.

I don't know if there's a strong preference for one or the
other which is shared by most folks.

I don't like installing code directly from the web into my
home directory.  I'd much rather do that via an rpm.  Others
feel differently. :)

In the case of the openweather extension, the rpm install
works on Gnome 41 because it has a patch to declare support
for 41 which has not been picked up and released to the
extensions site yet¹.

Hopefully that will get sorted eventually and then extension
will be installable via either method.

¹ https://gitlab.com/jenslody/gnome-shell-extension-openweather/-/issues/303
  https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnome-shell-extension-openweather/blob/ra...

[greg]

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 1:02 PM Matt Morgan  wrote:
> When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window list (e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for Thunderbird, not two). I think I
>
> used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab" to change this, but that extension doesn't seem to be available for F35.

- Super/Windows Key and type help -> open Gnome help app
- choose Your desktop
- see Applications and windows
in particular, switch between windows, useful keyboard shortcuts
> Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome anymore. The one I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a substitute?

- Super/Windows Key and type weather -> open weather app

greg