Hi list
Does anyone know of a program that can directly connect a Linux box to a windoze box so that we can chat?
Privacy is one thing, the other is with normal instant messengers, all clients are dependant on the server. If the server is overloaded or unavailable, it doesn't work.
By stateless I actually meant that it doesn't rely on a constant connection, like if for instance it uses the UDP protocol to send messages and the TCP to send acks or something?
Anyone know of such a beast?
With kind regards
Andy
Andy Pieters wrote:
Hi list
Does anyone know of a program that can directly connect a Linux box to a windoze box so that we can chat?
Privacy is one thing, the other is with normal instant messengers, all clients are dependant on the server. If the server is overloaded or unavailable, it doesn't work.
By stateless I actually meant that it doesn't rely on a constant connection, like if for instance it uses the UDP protocol to send messages and the TCP to send acks or something?
Anyone know of such a beast?
With kind regards
Andy
Would gaim with OTR plug-in work for you? That addresses the whole security point of it, but stateless? Hrmm..could you just run an extremely restricted irc server? Of course that doesn't satisfy the whole security viewpoint.
I think Off the Record would work for you but can't help you with the whole stateless thing. Sorry!
HTH
Alex White
Andy Pieters wrote:
Hi list
Does anyone know of a program that can directly connect a Linux box to a windoze box so that we can chat?
I recall doing a little search for a LAN chat program some while back.
These required no server and nothing more than a LAN...
I never tried it personally, but I remember coming across something called Akeni Lan which was cross platform if i recall correctly.
http://www.akeni.com/en/product/lanmessenger.php
Privacy is one thing, the other is with normal instant messengers, all clients are dependant on the server. If the server is overloaded or unavailable, it doesn't work.
By stateless I actually meant that it doesn't rely on a constant connection, like if for instance it uses the UDP protocol to send messages and the TCP to send acks or something?
Anyone know of such a beast?
With kind regards
Andy
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 20:32 +0100, Andy Pieters wrote:
Does anyone know of a program that can directly connect a Linux box to a windoze box so that we can chat?
Two IRC clients with a DCC connection? mIRC can do it without needing a server, I haven't looked if XIRC can.
Running the "talk" client and server. I think you can run that over the internet without too many dramas, but it's been ages since I played with talk.
Various IM systems can do direct peer-to-peer for some connections.
You can always run your own server, if you don't like external ones (whether that be an IRC server, Jabber server, or something else).
Hi list
Thank you all for your suggestions.
I have researched your answers and I thank you for your suggestions.
The main thing would be that if there is a glitch in the connection between the two computers that the "sender" just tries to send again after an interval of a few seconds.
Yesterday I was talking to my dad via icq (he's using windows icq client) and I use Kopete.
There was a thunderstorm going on and there were quite a few connection breaks of a few seconds each.
The connection with the icq server got severed each time I saw lightning but the most anoying part was that I didn't get any warning of connection failure.
Basically I had to connect, type a sentence, see if an answer gets trough, and if not, disconnect, and connect again to see the answer.
If it were peer to peer with each side retrying to send we could have continued our chat without even noticing the glitches.
We are about 1.500 km (~1000 miles) apart from each other.
With kind regards
Andy
Andy Pieters wrote:
Hi list
Thank you all for your suggestions.
I have researched your answers and I thank you for your suggestions.
The main thing would be that if there is a glitch in the connection between the two computers that the "sender" just tries to send again after an interval of a few seconds.
Yesterday I was talking to my dad via icq (he's using windows icq client) and I use Kopete.
There was a thunderstorm going on and there were quite a few connection breaks of a few seconds each.
The connection with the icq server got severed each time I saw lightning but the most anoying part was that I didn't get any warning of connection failure.
Basically I had to connect, type a sentence, see if an answer gets trough, and if not, disconnect, and connect again to see the answer.
If it were peer to peer with each side retrying to send we could have continued our chat without even noticing the glitches.
We are about 1.500 km (~1000 miles) apart from each other.
With kind regards
Andy
I'm bad at trimming so won't, as the entire thing is relevant. I only think that tcp is going to help you there, because udp doesn't care if the packet got there or not.
However, I don't know of any technology aside from starting up a gnutella client of some sort? IRC would probably be the way to go though, as that would immediately disco if there was any severing of a connection. Most clients (xchat I know for certain) will reco all on its lonesome if it loses connectivity. And as was mentioned before with direct connect via DCC you have at least that much security but I don't think that's really secure since if either of you are being sniffed all that data is (I think) plain text.
HTH
Alex White
On Thursday 01 December 2005 01:28, Alex White wrote:
I only think that tcp is going to help you there, because udp doesn't care if the packet got there or not.
I just thought of something.
What if I run netcat to listen on say port 30.000 and tell my dad to telnet to my ip @ port 30.000
Would that work?
With kind regards
Andy
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