Soundcard configuration lost following a reboot

[Nick Pierpoint]

My soundcard configuration is lost each time I reboot - thankfully a
rare event but annoying nonetheless.

If I reboot and run system-config-soundcard then everything is pretty
much fine. However, following a reboot the system will be silent again.

Does anyone know what system-config-soundcard actually does?

The content of /etc/modprobe.conf is untouched by by
system-config-soundcard when I run it - is this the expected behaviour
or is something awry?

I'm running FC2 - recently upgraded from RH9.

Many thanks for any help.

--
nick

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:57:22 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> My soundcard configuration is lost each time I reboot - thankfully a
> rare event but annoying nonetheless.
>
> If I reboot and run system-config-soundcard then everything is pretty
> much fine. However, following a reboot the system will be silent again.
>
> Does anyone know what system-config-soundcard actually does?
>
> The content of /etc/modprobe.conf is untouched by by
> system-config-soundcard when I run it - is this the expected behaviour
> or is something awry?
>
> I'm running FC2 - recently upgraded from RH9.

Is the soundcard listed in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf? If so, cut out the
block and run /usr/sbin/kudzu as root. Following the instructions,
you should see activity in /etc/modprobe.conf

[Nick Pierpoint]

On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 13:15, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:57:22 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > My soundcard configuration is lost each time I reboot - thankfully a
> > rare event but annoying nonetheless.
> >
> > If I reboot and run system-config-soundcard then everything is pretty
> > much fine. However, following a reboot the system will be silent again.
> >
> > Does anyone know what system-config-soundcard actually does?
> >
> > The content of /etc/modprobe.conf is untouched by by
> > system-config-soundcard when I run it - is this the expected behaviour
> > or is something awry?
> >
> > I'm running FC2 - recently upgraded from RH9.
>
> Is the soundcard listed in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf? If so, cut out the
> block and run /usr/sbin/kudzu as root. Following the instructions,
> you should see activity in /etc/modprobe.conf

Thanks Michael - worked a treat. The first time no changes were made to
modprobe.conf but after I deleted the snd entry and repeated kudzu then
it was re-created (correctly this time). The configuration is now
happily still there after a reboot. Many thanks.

One outstanding issue is that there's no output from the CD player.
System sounds and xmms are fine but not output from the CD player -
still looking around for a solution though...

Thanks again.

Nick.

[Antonio Montagnani]

Nick Pierpoint wrote/ha scritto, On/il 29/08/2004 21:05:
> On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 13:15, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:57:22 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > My soundcard configuration is lost each time I reboot - thankfully a
> > > rare event but annoying nonetheless.
> > >
> > > If I reboot and run system-config-soundcard then everything is pretty
> > > much fine. However, following a reboot the system will be silent again.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what system-config-soundcard actually does?
> > >
> > > The content of /etc/modprobe.conf is untouched by by
> > > system-config-soundcard when I run it - is this the expected behaviour
> > > or is something awry?
> > >
> > > I'm running FC2 - recently upgraded from RH9.
> >
> > Is the soundcard listed in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf? If so, cut out the
> > block and run /usr/sbin/kudzu as root. Following the instructions,
> > you should see activity in /etc/modprobe.conf
>
> Thanks Michael - worked a treat. The first time no changes were made to
> modprobe.conf but after I deleted the snd entry and repeated kudzu then
> it was re-created (correctly this time). The configuration is now
> happily still there after a reboot. Many thanks.
>
> One outstanding issue is that there's no output from the CD player.
> System sounds and xmms are fine but not output from the CD player -
> still looking around for a solution though...
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Nick.

Is the cable connecting the CD player and the soundcard???

[Nick Pierpoint]

On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 20:10, antonio montagnani wrote:
> Nick Pierpoint wrote/ha scritto, On/il 29/08/2004 21:05:
> > On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 13:15, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:57:22 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > > My soundcard configuration is lost each time I reboot - thankfully a
> > > > rare event but annoying nonetheless.
> > >
> > > Is the soundcard listed in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf? If so, cut out the
> > > block and run /usr/sbin/kudzu as root. Following the instructions,
> > > you should see activity in /etc/modprobe.conf
> >
> > Thanks Michael - worked a treat. The first time no changes were made to
> > modprobe.conf but after I deleted the snd entry and repeated kudzu then
> > it was re-created (correctly this time). The configuration is now
> > happily still there after a reboot. Many thanks.
> >
> > One outstanding issue is that there's no output from the CD player.
> > System sounds and xmms are fine but not output from the CD player -
> > still looking around for a solution though...
>
> Is the cable connecting the CD player and the soundcard???

Yes it is. Worked fine in RH9 but stopped following the FC2 upgrade.

[I've an nvidia board but I'm using the snd-intel driver instead of the
nvidia (nvsound) one at the moment - one thing at a time...]

--
nick

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:04:09 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > One outstanding issue is that there's no output from the CD player.
> > > System sounds and xmms are fine but not output from the CD player -
> > > still looking around for a solution though...
> >
> > Is the cable connecting the CD player and the soundcard???
>
> Yes it is. Worked fine in RH9 but stopped following the FC2 upgrade.

You may need to un-mute a corresponding audio channel using alsamixer.

Many people prefer playing audio CDs digitally, e.g. with XMMS' CD reader
plugin. In the preferences, it can be configured to read audio CDs
digitally. That technique doesn't need a cable.

[Nick Pierpoint]

On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 23:12, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:04:09 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > > One outstanding issue is that there's no output from the CD player.
> > > > System sounds and xmms are fine but not output from the CD player -
> > > > still looking around for a solution though...
> > >
> > > Is the cable connecting the CD player and the soundcard???
> >
> > Yes it is. Worked fine in RH9 but stopped following the FC2 upgrade.
>
> You may need to un-mute a corresponding audio channel using alsamixer.

I've un-muted the CD channel in alsamixer but didn't seem to have any
effect.
> Many people prefer playing audio CDs digitally, e.g. with XMMS' CD reader
> plugin. In the preferences, it can be configured to read audio CDs
> digitally. That technique doesn't need a cable.

I don't often play CDs directly so its not a big issue - just a nagging
annoyance that it worked under RH9 and has only stopped working
following the upgrade.

--
nick

[Satish Balay]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 23:12, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:04:09 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > > > One outstanding issue is that there's no output from the CD player.
> > > > > System sounds and xmms are fine but not output from the CD player -
> > > > > still looking around for a solution though...
> > > >
> > > > Is the cable connecting the CD player and the soundcard???
> > >
> > > Yes it is. Worked fine in RH9 but stopped following the FC2 upgrade.
> >
> > You may need to un-mute a corresponding audio channel using alsamixer.
>
> I've un-muted the CD channel in alsamixer but didn't seem to have any
> effect.
> > Many people prefer playing audio CDs digitally, e.g. with XMMS' CD reader
> > plugin. In the preferences, it can be configured to read audio CDs
> > digitally. That technique doesn't need a cable.
>
> I don't often play CDs directly so its not a big issue - just a nagging
> annoyance that it worked under RH9 and has only stopped working
> following the upgrade.

On my 600E with rawhide - I have to crank up 'line-2' control in
gnome-volume-control to get the sound from the CD player.

Satish

[Nick Pierpoint]

On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 20:51, Satish Balay wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 23:12, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 21:04:09 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > > > > One outstanding issue is that there's no output from the CD player.
> > > > > > System sounds and xmms are fine but not output from the CD player -
> > > > > > still looking around for a solution though...
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the cable connecting the CD player and the soundcard???
> > > >
> > > > Yes it is. Worked fine in RH9 but stopped following the FC2 upgrade.
> > >
> > > You may need to un-mute a corresponding audio channel using alsamixer.
> >
> > I've un-muted the CD channel in alsamixer but didn't seem to have any
> > effect.
> > > Many people prefer playing audio CDs digitally, e.g. with XMMS' CD reader
> > > plugin. In the preferences, it can be configured to read audio CDs
> > > digitally. That technique doesn't need a cable.
> >
> > I don't often play CDs directly so its not a big issue - just a nagging
> > annoyance that it worked under RH9 and has only stopped working
> > following the upgrade.
>
> On my 600E with rawhide - I have to crank up 'line-2' control in
> gnome-volume-control to get the sound from the CD player.

Thanks for the suggestion - Line-2 didn't work but AUX did. Thanks very
much.

CD would be too simple!

--
nick

[Allen Winter]

On Sunday 29 August 2004 03:05 pm, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 13:15, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:57:22 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > My soundcard configuration is lost each time I reboot - thankfully a
> > > rare event but annoying nonetheless.
> > >
> > > If I reboot and run system-config-soundcard then everything is pretty
> > > much fine. However, following a reboot the system will be silent again.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what system-config-soundcard actually does?
> > >
> > > The content of /etc/modprobe.conf is untouched by by
> > > system-config-soundcard when I run it - is this the expected behaviour
> > > or is something awry?
> > >
> > > I'm running FC2 - recently upgraded from RH9.
> >
> > Is the soundcard listed in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf? If so, cut out the
> > block and run /usr/sbin/kudzu as root. Following the instructions,
> > you should see activity in /etc/modprobe.conf

I had the same problem with sound going away each time I rebooted.
So, I removed the AUDIO section from /etc/sysconf/hwconf and then
ran kudzu as suggested above.  (kudzu didn't ask me any questions at all).
Now when system-config-soundcard fails with:
# system-config-soundcard
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 31
  Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device
-9

Help!
Allen

[Allen Winter]

On Tuesday 31 August 2004 09:07 pm, Allen Winter wrote:
> On Sunday 29 August 2004 03:05 pm, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 13:15, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 11:57:22 +0100, Nick Pierpoint wrote:
> > > > My soundcard configuration is lost each time I reboot - thankfully a
> > > > rare event but annoying nonetheless.
> > > >
> > > > If I reboot and run system-config-soundcard then everything is pretty
> > > > much fine. However, following a reboot the system will be silent again.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know what system-config-soundcard actually does?
> > > >
> > > > The content of /etc/modprobe.conf is untouched by by
> > > > system-config-soundcard when I run it - is this the expected behaviour
> > > > or is something awry?
> > > >
> > > > I'm running FC2 - recently upgraded from RH9.
> > >
> > > Is the soundcard listed in /etc/sysconfig/hwconf? If so, cut out the
> > > block and run /usr/sbin/kudzu as root. Following the instructions,
> > > you should see activity in /etc/modprobe.conf
>
> I had the same problem with sound going away each time I rebooted.
> So, I removed the AUDIO section from /etc/sysconf/hwconf and then
> ran kudzu as suggested above.  (kudzu didn't ask me any questions at all).
> Now when system-config-soundcard fails with:
> # system-config-soundcard
> Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
>   Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
>   Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
> sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device
> -9

So I reboot and no sound.  So I run system-config-soundcard again and this time it
finds dev/dsp and I have sound.  Should I expect sound to work on reboot now?
Or what am I doing wrong?

-Allen

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:27:01 -0400, Allen Winter wrote:
> > I had the same problem with sound going away each time I rebooted.
> > So, I removed the AUDIO section from /etc/sysconf/hwconf and then
> > ran kudzu as suggested above.  (kudzu didn't ask me any questions at all).
> > Now when system-config-soundcard fails with:
> > # system-config-soundcard
> > Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
> >   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
> >   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> >   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
> >   Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
> >   Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
> > sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device
> > -9
>
> So I reboot and no sound.  So I run system-config-soundcard again and this time it
> finds dev/dsp and I have sound.  Should I expect sound to work on reboot now?
> Or what am I doing wrong?

Depends on what you had cut out from /etc/sysconfig/hwconf and
whether kudzu detected your soundcard as NEW and what you have got
in /etc/modprobe.conf currently.

[Allen Winter]

On Thursday 02 September 2004 02:57 am, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:27:01 -0400, Allen Winter wrote:
> > > I had the same problem with sound going away each time I rebooted.
> > > So, I removed the AUDIO section from /etc/sysconf/hwconf and then
> > > ran kudzu as suggested above.  (kudzu didn't ask me any questions at all).
> > > Now when system-config-soundcard fails with:
> > > # system-config-soundcard
> > > Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
> > >   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch pswitch-joined
> > >   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
> > >   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
> > >   Front Left: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
> > >   Front Right: Playback 23 [74%] [on]
> > > sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': No such device
> > > -9
> >
> > So I reboot and no sound.  So I run system-config-soundcard again and this time it
> > finds dev/dsp and I have sound.  Should I expect sound to work on reboot now?
> > Or what am I doing wrong?
>
> Depends on what you had cut out from /etc/sysconfig/hwconf

class: AUDIO
bus: PCI
detached: 0
driver: snd-ali5451
desc: "ALi Corporation|M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device"
vendorId: 10b9
deviceId: 5451
subVendorId: 103c
subDeviceId: 0024
pciType: 1
pcidom:    0
pcibus:  0
pcidev:  6
pcifn:  0
> whether kudzu detected your soundcard as NEW

I don't believe it did because it would have asked me to configure it, right?
> and what you have got in /etc/modprobe.conf currently.

# cat /etc/modprobe.conf
alias eth0 natsemi
alias snd-card-0 snd-ali5451
install snd-ali5451 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ali5451 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
remove snd-ali5451 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-ali5451
alias usb-controller ohci-hcd
install ipv6 /bin/true
alias sound_slot_1 off

And.. sound config does not seem to survive a reboot.  I need to re-run system-config-soundcard
on each reboot.

Regards,
Allen

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 10:20:20 -0400, Allen Winter wrote:
> > whether kudzu detected your soundcard as NEW
>
> I don't believe it did because it would have asked me to configure it, right?

But it did set up /etc/modprobe.conf for you, because now you've got
the alsactl entries in there.
> > and what you have got in /etc/modprobe.conf currently.
>
> # cat /etc/modprobe.conf
> alias eth0 natsemi
> alias snd-card-0 snd-ali5451
> install snd-ali5451 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-ali5451 && /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 || :
> remove snd-ali5451 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-ali5451
> alias usb-controller ohci-hcd
> install ipv6 /bin/true
> alias sound_slot_1 off
>
> And.. sound config does not seem to survive a reboot.  I need to re-run system-config-soundcard
> on each reboot.

That has different reasons and indicates that you still did not set/save
all your audio mixers, because the entries in /etc/modprobe.conf restore
ALSA mixers upon loading the modules. ALSA (the Advanced Linux Sound
Architecture) in Fedora Core 2 comes with two audio drivers, native ALSA
and OSS emulation. Depending on what audio devices files your applications
use, you may need to set different mixers. /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer are
OSS, /dev/snd/* are ALSA. system-config-soundcard justs sets the mixers
for the test sound to be played on /dev/dsp (OSS), so whatever you try
after a reboot, it seems to use OSS and the OSS mixer has not been set
up correctly. Naturally, setting ALSA mixers should get the OSS mixers
in sync, but that doesn't seem to work everywhere and with every audio
driver.