root login

[Nick Price]

Hi all
 
 
Just downloaded F10 and when I try to login as root i get "unable to authenticate
user"
 
so i logged in as myself and then "su" but each time I want to change system
settings it keeps asking me for the root password
 
Ive only had a few hours and its already driving me crazy with this continual requests for
the root password.
 
 
how do I enable root login
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[bruce]

umm...

starting in level 5 doesn't prevent root from running. if you're running f10,
you're going to have to edit the gdm pam file. (don't have the article at my
fingers right now...)

appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you from logging in as the
"root" user. 

if you're using f9, get back to us...

peace


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Nick Price wrote:

>  how do I enable root login 
i normally do not reply to 'text/html' post, but this time i am making
and exception. [see guidelines link at bottom line of post]

i will guess that you are booting run 'level 5', so open a terminal,
su to root.

change to /etc directory and edit inittab and change;

'id:5:initdefault:' to 'id:3:initdefault:'

reboot and log in as root.

note: reply again in 'text/html' and i will not reply.



peace out.

tc,hago.

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[bruce]

"g"....

not sure who you are, nor am i sure i understand your remarks. if your feelings are hurt,
don't take it personally. i've seen people give seriously good advice. i've
seen people give advice that would screw the hell out of the system of the person who was
looking for help.

the fact, your approach wasn't the issue the guy was dealing with. would it have
harmed his system, no. was it the issue, again, no.

unless you "know"/trust the person giveing the advice, or unless you see it from
a number of different people, i would argue that you should take anything with a huge
assed grain of salt!

relax, have some turkey!


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bruce wrote:

>  not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file... 
good. if you do not know then those of us who do will continue to
keep it a secret.

>  moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you don't
> know!!! 
you can keep your reason for being snide a secret too.



peace out.

tc,hago.

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[bruce]

hell...

if nm works as it should with f10.. that might be a reason to upgrade
itself!!!

took a laptop on a trip. had a layover in las vegad, figured, what the heck.
never could access one of the public wifi networks with nm!!

(but it could have been user error!!)

thanks.


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To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: root login


On Tuesday 02 December 2008 13:38:18 Tim wrote:
>  On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 13:08 +0000, Tony Molloy wrote:
>  > If you had installed using the "askmethod" method you could have set
>  > the static address at install time.
>
>  Have things changed, because all that did, in the past, was the
>  configuration of the network for the installation (if the network is
>  needed *during* the installation).  Configuration of the network on the
>  installed system, was separate. 
Well I've been using it for the past few days to install Fedora-10 on
laptops
and desktops with static IP addresses and it works.

It asks for the IP information during the install and then NetworkManager
sets
up the connection data and it's permanent. Did I really say that,
NetworkManager actually works ;-)

Must say a big thank you to all the NetworkManager folks for ironing out the
bugs. It's actually a useful bit of software now and I can take my laptops
from work to home and it recognises the different networks with the minimun
of fuss, Well done.

Regards,

Tony

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F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login

[Fred Silsbee]

--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Tony Molloy <tony.molloy(a)ul.ie&gt; wrote:

>  From: Tony Molloy <tony.molloy(a)ul.ie&gt;
>  Subject: Re: F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login
>  To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."
> <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 6:49 PM
>  On Thursday 04 December 2008 17:33:22 Robert Moskowitz
>  wrote:
>  > Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
>  > > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:34:51PM +0000, John
>  Horne wrote:
>  > >> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce
>  wrote:
>  > >>> appparently f10, has modified the default
>  behavior to restrict you
>  > >>> from logging in as the "root"
>  user.
>  > >
>  > > Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam
>  change that does
>  > > limit the login devices for 'root'.  It
>  can be undone but
>  > > the goal was to limit external and unwanted local
>  root activity.
>  >
>  > I can't find this pearl of wisdom, and right now,
>  as I plow through
>  > getting things working, I really benifit from logging
>  in as root. Yes I
>  > can set inittab to init 3, then run startx, but I am
>  not sure this is
>  > the same thing (and when I exit startx I see an error
>  about running this
>  > as root).
>  
>  Edit /etc/pam.d/gdm
>  
>  find the line
>  
>  auth       required    pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet
>  
>  and replace it with 
>  
>  auth       required    pam_succeed_if.so
>  
>  Then logout and login as root.
>  
>  Tony
>  
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thanks! useful if I ever move to F10

F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login

[Robert Moskowitz]

Tony Molloy wrote:
>  On Thursday 04 December 2008 17:33:22 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>    
> > Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> >     
> >> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:34:51PM +0000, John Horne wrote:
> >>       
> >>> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
> >>>         
> >>>> appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you
> >>>> from logging in as the "root" user.
> >>>>           
> >> Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam change that does
> >> limit the login devices for 'root'.  It can be undone but
> >> the goal was to limit external and unwanted local root activity.
> >>       
> > I can't find this pearl of wisdom, and right now, as I plow through
> > getting things working, I really benifit from logging in as root. Yes I
> > can set inittab to init 3, then run startx, but I am not sure this is
> > the same thing (and when I exit startx I see an error about running this
> > as root).
> >     
>
>  Edit /etc/pam.d/gdm
>
>  find the line
>
>  auth       required    pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet
>
>  and replace it with 
>
>  auth       required    pam_succeed_if.so
>
>  Then logout and login as root. 
thanks!

I have GOT to start my F10 tips 'book'....

F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login

[Tony Molloy]

On Thursday 04 December 2008 17:33:22 Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
>  > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:34:51PM +0000, John Horne wrote:
>  >> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
>  >>> appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you
>  >>> from logging in as the "root" user.
>  >
>  > Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam change that does
>  > limit the login devices for 'root'.  It can be undone but
>  > the goal was to limit external and unwanted local root activity.
>
>  I can't find this pearl of wisdom, and right now, as I plow through
>  getting things working, I really benifit from logging in as root. Yes I
>  can set inittab to init 3, then run startx, but I am not sure this is
>  the same thing (and when I exit startx I see an error about running this
>  as root). 
Edit /etc/pam.d/gdm

find the line

auth       required    pam_succeed_if.so user != root quiet

and replace it with 

auth       required    pam_succeed_if.so

Then logout and login as root.

Tony

F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login

[Chris Tyler]

On Thu, 2008-12-04 at 13:05 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  When you are attempting to debug why drivers and such are not
> working, 
>  being root saves time which is saving money. Once things work, then I go 
>  back to 'normal'.
>  
>  Yes, I often open a terminal window and su, and then 'nautilus &', but 
>  that has given me wierd behaviour. And then I want to sftp some root 
>  files over, gFTP is nice. Most things can be done without being root, 
>  and take a few hours more. I am not an expert at this stuff. My job is 
>  to work on security protocols, not OSs. 
I haven't checked, but perhaps one of the other display managers (such
as kdm or xdm) may allow you to login as root?

-Chris

F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login

[Robert Moskowitz]

Fred Silsbee wrote:
>  --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:
>
>    
> > From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt;
> > Subject: F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login
> > To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."
> <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
> > Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 5:33 PM
> > Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> >     
> >> On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:34:51PM +0000, John Horne
> >>       
> > wrote:
> >     
> >>   
> >>       
> >>> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
> >>>     
> >>>         
> >>>> appparently f10, has modified the default
> >>>>           
> > behavior to restrict you
> >     
> >>>> from logging in as the "root" user. 
> >>>>       
> >>>>           
> >> Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam change
> >>       
> > that does
> >     
> >> limit the login devices for 'root'.  It can be
> >>       
> > undone but
> >     
> >> the goal was to limit external and unwanted local root
> >>       
> > activity.
> >     
> >>   
> >>       
> > I can't find this pearl of wisdom, and right now, as I
> > plow through getting things working, I really benifit from
> > logging in as root. Yes I can set inittab to init 3, then
> > run startx, but I am not sure this is the same thing (and
> > when I exit startx I see an error about running this as
> > root).
> >
> >
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>
>  Has Fedora become puppy Linux? 
When you are attempting to debug why drivers and such are not working, 
being root saves time which is saving money. Once things work, then I go 
back to 'normal'.

Yes, I often open a terminal window and su, and then 'nautilus &', but 
that has given me wierd behaviour. And then I want to sftp some root 
files over, gFTP is nice. Most things can be done without being root, 
and take a few hours more. I am not an expert at this stuff. My job is 
to work on security protocols, not OSs.

F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login

[Fred Silsbee]

--- On Thu, 12/4/08, Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt; wrote:

>  From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm(a)htt-consult.com&gt;
>  Subject: F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login
>  To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora."
> <fedora-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 5:33 PM
>  Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
>  > On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:34:51PM +0000, John Horne
>  wrote:
>  >   
>  >> On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
>  >>     
>  >>> appparently f10, has modified the default
>  behavior to restrict you
>  >>> from logging in as the "root" user. 
>  >>>       
>  > Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam change
>  that does
>  > limit the login devices for 'root'.  It can be
>  undone but
>  > the goal was to limit external and unwanted local root
>  activity.
>  >   
>  
>  I can't find this pearl of wisdom, and right now, as I
>  plow through getting things working, I really benifit from
>  logging in as root. Yes I can set inittab to init 3, then
>  run startx, but I am not sure this is the same thing (and
>  when I exit startx I see an error about running this as
>  root).
>  
>  
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Has Fedora become puppy Linux?

F10 - I REALLY want to log in as root -- was Re: root login

[Robert Moskowitz]

Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
>  On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:34:51PM +0000, John Horne wrote:
>    
> > On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
> >     
> >> appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you
> >> from logging in as the "root" user. 
> >>
> >>       
>  Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam change that does
>  limit the login devices for 'root'.  It can be undone but
>  the goal was to limit external and unwanted local root activity.
>     
I can't find this pearl of wisdom, and right now, as I plow through 
getting things working, I really benifit from logging in as root. Yes I 
can set inittab to init 3, then run startx, but I am not sure this is 
the same thing (and when I exit startx I see an error about running this 
as root).

[Tony Molloy]

On Tuesday 02 December 2008 13:38:18 Tim wrote:
>  On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 13:08 +0000, Tony Molloy wrote:
>  > If you had installed using the "askmethod" method you could have set
>  > the static address at install time.
>
>  Have things changed, because all that did, in the past, was the
>  configuration of the network for the installation (if the network is
>  needed *during* the installation).  Configuration of the network on the
>  installed system, was separate. 
Well I've been using it for the past few days to install Fedora-10 on laptops 
and desktops with static IP addresses and it works.

It asks for the IP information during the install and then NetworkManager sets 
up the connection data and it's permanent. Did I really say that, 
NetworkManager actually works ;-)

Must say a big thank you to all the NetworkManager folks for ironing out the 
bugs. It's actually a useful bit of software now and I can take my laptops 
from work to home and it recognises the different networks with the minimun 
of fuss, Well done.

Regards,

Tony

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>
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>  read messages from the public lists.

eth0 config

[Nick Price]

Hi tried that when I deactivate and reactivate eth0 to get the new settings
the system changes the ifcfg-eth0 file back to what "IT" thinks is what it
should be also a restart does this.  Screws it all up and I get no
connectivity

Driving me crazy

Cheers

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Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 14:09
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: root login

On Tuesday 02 December 2008 12:39:31 Nick wrote:
>  Hi All
>
>
>
>  With F10 if I use DHCP to assign my IP address everything goes OK
>
>  I get an IP address and a subnet mask and I get access to the interent
>
>
>
>  If I try to statically assign the IP address
>  

You need to manually edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

and put in

IPADDR=xxx
NETMASK=xxx

If you had installed using the "askmethod" method you could have set the 
static address at install time.

Tony
>  Many thanks 

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[Tim]

On Tue, 2008-12-02 at 13:08 +0000, Tony Molloy wrote:
>  If you had installed using the "askmethod" method you could
> have set
>  the static address at install time. 
Have things changed, because all that did, in the past, was the
configuration of the network for the installation (if the network is
needed *during* the installation).  Configuration of the network on the
installed system, was separate.

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Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
read messages from the public lists.

[Tony Molloy]

On Tuesday 02 December 2008 12:39:31 Nick wrote:
>  Hi All
>
>
>
>  With F10 if I use DHCP to assign my IP address everything goes OK
>
>  I get an IP address and a subnet mask and I get access to the interent
>
>
>
>  If I try to statically assign the IP address
>  

You need to manually edit /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

and put in

IPADDR=xxx
NETMASK=xxx

If you had installed using the "askmethod" method you could have set the 
static address at install time.

Tony
>  Many thanks

[Joachim Backes]

Nick wrote:
>  Hi All
>  
>   
>  
>  With F10 if I use DHCP to assign my IP address everything goes OK
>  
>  I get an IP address and a subnet mask and I get access to the interent
>  
>   
>  
>  If I try to statically assign the IP address
>  
>   
>  
>  Example 192.168.1.118 255.255.255.240 (please don’t complain about the 
>  range it’s only an example because I don’t want to give out my public IP 
>  for this server) 
Do you have a correct /etc/resolv.conf with a valid nameserver entry?

JB

>  
>   
>  
>  The network configuration takes it but when I reopen it I see it has 
>  changed my subnet mask to 192.168.1.113
>  
>   
>  
>  Also I am not getting onto the internet
>  
>   
>  
>  Ifconfig shows eth0 as 192.168.1.118 255.255.255.255
>  
>   
>  
>  Bcast 192.168.1.118
>  
>   
>  
>  It also shows an IPv6 address even though I haven’t enabled IPv6
>  
>   
>  
>  What is going wrong
>  
>   
>  
>  I need to statically assign the IP address as this will use a public IP 
>  address
>  
>   
>  
>   
>  
>  Many thanks
>   

-- 

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[Nick Price]

Hi All

 

With F10 if I use DHCP to assign my IP address everything goes OK 

I get an IP address and a subnet mask and I get access to the interent

 

If I try to statically assign the IP address

 

Example 192.168.1.118 255.255.255.240 (please don't complain about the range
it's only an example because I don't want to give out my public IP for this
server)

 

The network configuration takes it but when I reopen it I see it has changed
my subnet mask to 192.168.1.113

 

Also I am not getting onto the internet

 

Ifconfig shows eth0 as 192.168.1.118 255.255.255.255

 

Bcast 192.168.1.118

 

It also shows an IPv6 address even though I haven't enabled IPv6

 

What is going wrong

 

I need to statically assign the IP address as this will use a public IP
address

 

 

Many thanks

[Tom Horsley]

On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:23:46 -0800
Nifty Fedora Mitch <niftyfedora(a)niftyegg.com&gt; wrote:

>  Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam change that does
>  limit the login devices for 'root'. 
Yea, but the pam stuff is used only by gdm. If you run kdm,
you could always login as root.

[Nifty Fedora Mitch]

On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 02:34:51PM +0000, John Horne wrote:
>  On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
>  >
>  > appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you
>  > from logging in as the "root" user. 
>  > 
>  Not that I have noticed. I installed F10 on my home PC at the weekend.
>  Installed the KDE desktop, and not GNOME. Logged straight in as root.
>  Didn't have to change anything.
>   
This may depend on upgrade .vs. clean install.

Check the archives.  I seem to recall a pam change that does
limit the login devices for 'root'.  It can be undone but
the goal was to limit external and unwanted local root activity.

You should be able to "su -" then "visudo" and add yourself
to the sudo list and then you have the ability to do what needs
to be done.

It is so very necessary to have good pass words today.
As a minimum have three good pass words and one other.
	you
	root
	money
   and
        lowriskweb





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	Found me a new hat, now what?

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2008-12-01 at 14:34 +0000, John Horne wrote:
>  On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
>  >
>  > appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you
>  > from logging in as the "root" user. 
>  > 
>  Not that I have noticed. I installed F10 on my home PC at the weekend.
>  Installed the KDE desktop, and not GNOME. Logged straight in as root.
>  Didn't have to change anything. 
It's a gdm thing.

poc

[John Horne]

On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:23 -0800, bruce wrote:
>  appparently f10, has modified the default behavior to restrict you
>  from logging in as the "root" user. 
>   
Not that I have noticed. I installed F10 on my home PC at the weekend.
Installed the KDE desktop, and not GNOME. Logged straight in as root.
Didn't have to change anything.



John.

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bruce wrote:

>  not sure who you are, nor am i sure i understand your remarks. if
> your
>  feelings are hurt, don't take it personally. 
reset assured, it would take more than your comments to hurt my feelings.
nor do i take them personally, other than;

i do take them as being towards me as your comments #1 [see below, as
you seem to prefer to top post] states 'keep telling ...'.

so why even bother to post what you did, as you did?

>  the fact, your approach wasn't the issue the guy was dealing
> with.
>  would it have harmed his system, no. was it the issue, again, no. 
issue was that he could not log in as root, so main intent was to get bruce
into his system with as little in his way as possible, ie, a desktop login.

>  unless you "know"/trust the person giveing the advice, or
> unless
>  you see it from a number of different people, 
and your advice of 'Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:51:32 -0800' to edit
'/etc/pam.d', which is a directory, which i have already stated in another
post, is giving good advice?

as for good advice, that was provided by tom horsley, which i did not see
until after i replied to nick's 'text/html' post in my 'html' mbox
and
changed to my text only 'inbox'.

>  i would argue that
>  you should take anything with a huge assed grain of salt! 
argue all you wish. i am just making comments. as for salt, i do not
even use it on food.

>  relax, have some turkey! 
i am very relaxed. and, i will have a most enjoyable 'big bird day' tomorrow.

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>  From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com
>  [mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of g
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:40 PM
>  To: Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.
>  Subject: Re: root login
>  
>  bruce wrote: 
#1)
> > not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file...
>  
>  good. if you do not know then those of us who do will continue to
>  keep it a secret. 
#2)
> > moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you
> don't know!!!
>  
>  you can keep your reason for being snide a secret too. 

peace out.

tc,hago.

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bruce wrote:

>  not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file... 
good. if you do not know then those of us who do will continue to
keep it a secret.

>  moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you don't
> know!!! 
you can keep your reason for being snide a secret too.



peace out.

tc,hago.

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****
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
**
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to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it.
**
learn linux:
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[bruce]

great...

not sure why some kept telling you to deal with the init file... 

moral of story: be careful when taking advice of people you don't know!!!



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[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 12:44 PM
To: 'Community assistance, encouragement,and advice for using Fedora.'
Subject: RE: root login


Hi All 

Many thanks got it fixed now by editing the gdm file


Nick



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Nick wrote:
>  Tried that when I go to save it   I get a error message that I don’t
> have
>  the permissions necessary to save the file.
>  
>  If I do a whoami I am root
>  
>  Where do I go from here 
then there may be some other problems.

at boot screen, press <tab> and 'e' to edit. cursor down to line starting
with 'kernel' press <e> to edit, add to end of line '1'. press
<enter>,
then <b> to boot.

you will start in level 1 maintenance mode.

'cd /etc', 'cp inittab inittab.bak', 'vi inittab', cursor down to
line with
'id:5:initdefault:'. cursor to '5' press <r>, press '3',
enter in sequence,
':qw'. then enter 'reboot'.

this should bring you up in 'command line' mode. enter 'root' at login
prompt,
enter root password.

if refused, you may be using wrong password. changing password is another
'level 1' operation, which can be gone thru it above does not work.


peace out.

tc,hago.

g


****
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
**
to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it;
to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it.
**
learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
'LDP HOWTO-index'   http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html
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Nick wrote:
>  Tried that when I go to save it   I get a error message that I don’t
> have
>  the permissions necessary to save the file.
>  
>  If I do a whoami I am root
>  
>  Where do I go from here 
then there may be some other problems.

at boot screen, press <tab> and 'e' to edit. cursor down to line starting
with 'kernel' press <e> to edit, add to end of line '1'. press
<enter>,
then <b> to boot.

you will start in level 1 maintenance mode.

'cd /etc', 'cp inittab inittab.bak', 'vi inittab', cursor down to
line with
'id:5:initdefault:'. cursor to '5' press <r>, press '3',
enter in sequence,
':qw'. then enter 'reboot'.

this should bring you up in 'command line' mode. enter 'root' at login
prompt,
enter root password.

if refused, you may be using wrong password. changing password is another
'level 1' operation, which can be gone thru it above does not work.


peace out.

tc,hago.

g
.

****
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
**
to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it;
to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it.
**
learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
'LDP HOWTO-index'   http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html
'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/
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bruce wrote:
>  nick...
>  
>  do this...
>  
>  su - root
>  password: <whatever it is>
>  
>  edit /etc/pam.d
>  vi /etc/pam.d (or use your favorite editor) 
that would be a good trick, seeing as how /etc/pam.d is a directory.

if he changes 'inittab', then he can/should be able to log in as root
and get things worked out from there.

plus, he has not made any comment as to what desktop he has set up, so
first is to just getting him in as root and take care of rest after.



peace out.

tc,hago.

g
.

****
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
**
to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it;
to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it.
**
learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
'LDP HOWTO-index'   http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html
'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/
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[bruce]

nick...

do this...

su - root
password: <whatever it is>

edit /etc/pam.d
vi /etc/pam.d (or use your favorite editor)
look for a line that has:
 user != root (or something like that)
comment out the line, or delete it...

save the file, log out, log back in, end you should be able to access as
root...

you don't need to modify the init file...



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[mailto:[e-mail]]On Behalf Of Nick Price
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:35 AM
To: fedora-list(a)redhat.com
Subject: root login


Hi all


Just downloaded F10 and when I try to login as root i get "unable to
authenticate user"

so i logged in as myself and then "su" but each time I want to change system
settings it keeps asking me for the root password

Ive only had a few hours and its already driving me crazy with this
continual requests for the root password.


how do I enable root login



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[Tom Horsley]

>  how do I enable root login 
Edit /etc/pam.d/gdm, find the line with the expression that
says something like "user != root" on the end of the line and
remove that expression from the end of the line.

[Nick Price]

Tried that when I go to save it   I get a error message that I don’t have the permissions
necessary to save the file.

If I do a whoami I am root

Where do I go from here

Thanks

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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 16:10
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Nick Price wrote:

>  how do I enable root login 
i normally do not reply to 'text/html' post, but this time i am making
and exception. [see guidelines link at bottom line of post]

i will guess that you are booting run 'level 5', so open a terminal,
su to root.

change to /etc directory and edit inittab and change;

'id:5:initdefault:' to 'id:3:initdefault:'

reboot and log in as root.

note: reply again in 'text/html' and i will not reply.



peace out.

tc,hago.

g


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On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 14:35 +0000, Nick Price wrote:
>  Hi all
>   
>   
>  Just downloaded F10 and when I try to login as root i get "unable to
>  authenticate user"
>   
>  so i logged in as myself and then "su" but each time I want to change
>  system settings it keeps asking me for the root password 
Did you execute su or su
-
The second turns you into root with root environment.
>   
>  Ive only had a few hours and its already driving me crazy with this
>  continual requests for the root password.
>   
>   
>  how do I enable root login
>  
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Nick Price wrote:

>  how do I enable root login 
i normally do not reply to 'text/html' post, but this time i am making
and exception. [see guidelines link at bottom line of post]

i will guess that you are booting run 'level 5', so open a terminal,
su to root.

change to /etc directory and edit inittab and change;

'id:5:initdefault:' to 'id:3:initdefault:'

reboot and log in as root.

note: reply again in 'text/html' and i will not reply.



peace out.

tc,hago.

g
.

****
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.

learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
'LDP HOWTO-index'   http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html
'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/

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[Nick Price]

Hi All 

Many thanks got it fixed now by editing the gdm file


Nick



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From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
g
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 21:14
To: Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora.
Subject: Re: root login

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Nick wrote:
>  Tried that when I go to save it   I get a error message that I don’t
> have
>  the permissions necessary to save the file.
>  
>  If I do a whoami I am root
>  
>  Where do I go from here 
then there may be some other problems.

at boot screen, press <tab> and 'e' to edit. cursor down to line starting
with 'kernel' press <e> to edit, add to end of line '1'. press
<enter>,
then <b> to boot.

you will start in level 1 maintenance mode.

'cd /etc', 'cp inittab inittab.bak', 'vi inittab', cursor down to
line with
'id:5:initdefault:'. cursor to '5' press <r>, press '3',
enter in sequence,
':qw'. then enter 'reboot'.

this should bring you up in 'command line' mode. enter 'root' at login
prompt,
enter root password.

if refused, you may be using wrong password. changing password is another
'level 1' operation, which can be gone thru it above does not work.


peace out.

tc,hago.

g


****
in a free world without fences, who needs gates.
**
to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it;
to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look at* it.
**
learn linux:
'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition'   http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz
'The Linux Documentation Project'   http://www.tldp.org/
'LDP HOWTO-index'   http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html
'HowtoForge'   http://howtoforge.com/
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firefox

[Nick Price]

Hi All

Running F10 can anyone tell me how to stop firefox switching back to offline
mode every time it starts

Regards

Nick