I did the ($ yum groupremove "GNOME...etc) command, but it also removed some weird stuff along... it removed for example, openoffice.org writer, kdeadmin, openoffice.org langpacks and others...
why the hell did that happen?
On 12/27/05, Ali Helmy alihelmy@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/27/05, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@redhat.com wrote:
Ali Helmy wrote:
Hey
I am currently using KDE on my FC4 system, and I dont need nor use Gnome 99% of the time, so I wanted to remove it form the system. The Add/Remove applications program can only remove certain packages from gnome, but not all of it, nor its core files. Is there anyway I can remove GNome DE?# yum groupremove "GNOME Desktop Environment"
PS: how can i know a package name for a certain program? i mean if i have like, program x, or package x listed in the Add/Remove program, how do i get to know its package name to remove it withrpm?
Add/Remove Program (system-config-packages) doesnt understand repositories. This is scheduled to be fixed for the final release of Fedora Core 5. For now you can use Yumex which is a graphical frontend for yum available from the Fedora Extras repository.
More information available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tools/yum
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Ali Helmy wrote:
I did the ($ yum groupremove "GNOME...etc) command, but it also removed some weird stuff along... it removed for example, openoffice.org writer, kdeadmin, openoffice.org langpacks and others...
why the hell did that happen?
Some of those must have had (correctly or erroneously) dependencies on GNOME libraries. It would be useful if you could post the output of yum, or the list of packages that were removed (you could look in /var/log/yum.log). It may even be a bug in the yum dependency resolver. But without the details, it's impossible to tell. If you have the information, it would be very useful to packagers though.
Hey
Sorry, I dont have the yum output now, cause this happened a long time ago... But it removed everything, I had to re-install FC4 to get any access to my pc, because when the yum was done with the pc, all I could do was log-in to a console :$
I will try to simulate the removal again and find the yum output to list here
On 12/30/05, Jonathan Underwood j.underwood@open.ac.uk wrote:
Ali Helmy wrote:
I did the ($ yum groupremove "GNOME...etc) command, but it also removed some weird stuff along... it removed for example, openoffice.org writer, kdeadmin, openoffice.org langpacks and others...
why the hell did that happen?
Some of those must have had (correctly or erroneously) dependencies on GNOME libraries. It would be useful if you could post the output of yum, or the list of packages that were removed (you could look in /var/log/yum.log). It may even be a bug in the yum dependency resolver. But without the details, it's impossible to tell. If you have the information, it would be very useful to packagers though.
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It would be useful if you could post the output of yum,
or the list of packages that were removed (you could look in /var/log/yum.log). It may even be a bug in the yum dependency resolver. But without the details, it's impossible to tell. If you have the information, it would be very useful to packagers though.
Okay! I decided to see if I could help, I entered the following command and chose no so as not to trash one of my systems.
yum remove gnome*<enter>
below is the list of packages that would have been removed had I proceeded with the uninstall.
Note, this is a clean install of Fedora 4 with all updates applied. The only packages outside of the fedora stock install is xmms-mp3 and the mythtv suite.
I did this because I too wanted to uninstall gnome one time, but when I saw the list if dependency removals I opted not to proceed, as I knew that it would trash my install.
Pay particular attention to the dependency removals.
============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Removing: gnome-applets i386 1:2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 30 M gnome-audio noarch 2.0.0-3 installed 1.4 M gnome-backgrounds noarch 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.8 M gnome-desktop i386 2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.4 M gnome-doc-utils noarch 0.4.4-1.1.fc4.nr installed 977 k gnome-games i386 1:2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 19 M gnome-icon-theme noarch 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 3.4 M gnome-kerberos i386 0.3.3-2 installed 74 k gnome-keyring i386 0.4.5-1.1.fc4.nr installed 594 k gnome-keyring-manager i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 709 k gnome-libs i386 1:1.4.1.2.90-46 installed 2.9 M gnome-mag i386 0.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 336 k gnome-media i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 5.5 M gnome-menus i386 2.10.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 235 k gnome-menus i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 450 k gnome-mime-data i386 2.4.2-1 installed 3.4 M gnome-netstatus i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 974 k gnome-panel i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 8.8 M gnome-pilot i386 2.0.13-5.fc4 installed 1.7 M gnome-print i386 1:0.37-11 installed 1.1 M gnome-python2 i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 579 k gnome-python2-bonobo i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 167 k gnome-python2-canvas i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 158 k gnome-python2-extras i386 2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 156 k gnome-python2-gnomevfs i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 40 k gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 i386 2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 18 k gnome-session i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.2 M gnome-speech i386 0.3.8-1.1.fc4.nr installed 141 k gnome-spell i386 1.0.5-10 installed 188 k gnome-system-monitor i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.9 M gnome-system-tools i386 1.4.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 5.1 M gnome-terminal i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 7.1 M gnome-themes noarch 2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 3.2 M gnome-themes-extras i386 0.9.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 20 M gnome-user-docs noarch 2.8.1-2 installed 1.9 M gnome-utils i386 1:2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 15 M gnome-vfs2 i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 4.3 M gnome-vfs2-smb i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 27 k gnome-vfsmm26 i386 2.10.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 259 k gnome-volume-manager i386 1.5.5-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.4 M gnomemeeting i386 1.2.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 8.9 M Removing for dependencies: Guppi i386 0.40.3-23 installed 1.4 M NetworkManager-gnome i386 0.5.1-1.FC4.4 installed 294 k control-center i386 1:2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 7.4 M desktop-printing i386 0.18-10 installed 270 k dia i386 1:0.94-12.fc4 installed 8.5 M eel2 i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.2 M eog i386 2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 2.1 M evolution i386 2.4.2.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 28 M evolution-data-server i386 1.4.2.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 12 M evolution-webcal i386 2.4.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 283 k fast-user-switch-applet i386 0.2.4-1.1.fc4.nr installed 472 k file-roller i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 3.1 M firefox i386 1.5-1.1.fc4.nr installed 30 M firstboot noarch 1.3.42-1 installed 800 k gaim i386 1:1.5.0-10.1.fc4.nr installed 11 M gconf-editor i386 2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 869 k gdk-pixbuf-gnome i386 1:0.22.0-18.fc4.2 installed 12 k gdm i386 1:2.8.0.7-1.1.fc4.nr installed 9.1 M gedit i386 1:2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 13 M gimp i386 2:2.3.5-1.1.fc4.nr installed 51 M gimp-data-extras noarch 2.0.1-1 installed 7.6 M gimp-gap i386 2.0.2-4 installed 2.9 M gimp-help noarch 2-0.1.0.9.0.fc4.1 installed 35 M gimp-print-plugin i386 4.2.7-7 installed 191 k gnopernicus i386 0.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 6.3 M gnucash i386 1.8.11-3 installed 35 M gok i386 1.0.5-2.1.fc4.nr installed 7.3 M gstreamer-plugins i386 0.8.11-1.1.fc4.nr installed 4.2 M gthumb i386 2.6.8-1.1.fc4.nr installed 5.2 M gtkhtml i386 1.1.9-11 installed 1.4 M gtkhtml2 i386 2.6.3-1 installed 369 k gtkhtml3 i386 3.8.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 2.6 M hwbrowser noarch 0.21-1 installed 206 k krb5-auth-dialog i386 0.2-5 installed 18 k libbonoboui i386 2.10.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.2 M libgail-gnome i386 1.1.0-5 installed 59 k libgal2 i386 2:2.4.3-2.1.fc4.nr installed 2.2 M libglade i386 1:0.17-16 installed 243 k libgnome i386 2.12.0.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 2.9 M libgnomedb i386 1:1.3.91-1.1.fc4.nr installed 2.2 M libgnomemm26 i386 2.12.1-1.1.fc4.nr installed 66 k libgnomeprint15 i386 1:0.37-11 installed 511 k libgnomeui i386 2.12.0-2.1.fc4.nr installed 2.9 M libgnomeuimm26 i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 470 k libgsf i386 1.13.3-1.1.fc4.nr installed 234 k librsvg2 i386 2.12.7-2.1.fc4.nr installed 375 k libwpd i386 0.8.2-2.1.fc4.nr installed 441 k libwpd-tools i386 0.8.2-2.1.fc4.nr installed 52 k mozilla i386 37:1.7.12-1.5.1 installed 25 M nautilus i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 11 M nautilus-cd-burner i386 2.12.2-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.2 M openoffice.org-calc i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 15 M openoffice.org-core i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 210 M openoffice.org-draw i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 2.7 M openoffice.org-graphicfilter i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 368 k openoffice.org-impress i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 4.3 M openoffice.org-javafilter i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 113 k openoffice.org-math i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 3.1 M openoffice.org-pyuno i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 237 k openoffice.org-writer i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 5.8 M openoffice.org-xsltfilter i386 1:2.0.1-143.2.1 installed 210 k planner i386 0.13-2 installed 4.1 M rhn-applet i386 2.1.17-3_9.rhfc4.at installed 895 k system-config-httpd noarch 5:1.3.2-2 installed 1.6 M system-config-lvm noarch 0.9.32-1.0 installed 647 k system-config-network noarch 1.3.26-1 installed 2.1 M system-config-packages noarch 1.2.25-1 installed 1.1 M system-config-printer-gui i386 0.6.131.3-1 installed 440 k up2date-gnome i386 4.4.23-4_11.rhfc4.at installed 661 k vino i386 2.12.0-1.1.fc4.nr installed 1.1 M xine i386 0.99.4-1.2.fc4.rf installed 3.5 M xine-lib i386 1.1.0-1.2.fc4.rf installed 8.4 M xine-lib-devel i386 1.1.0-1.2.fc4.rf installed 605 k xine-skins noarch 1.10-2.2.fc4.rf installed 4.0 M xsane-gimp i386 0.95-3 installed 561 k
Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 0 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 116 Package(s) Total download size: 0 Is this ok [y/N]:
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John Pierce wrote:
It would be useful if you could post the output of yum,
or the list of packages that were removed (you could look in /var/log/yum.log). It may even be a bug in the yum dependency resolver. But without the details, it's impossible to tell. If you have the information, it would be very useful to packagers though.
Okay! I decided to see if I could help, I entered the following command and chose no so as not to trash one of my systems.
yum remove gnome*<enter>
below is the list of packages that would have been removed had I proceeded with the uninstall.
Note, this is a clean install of Fedora 4 with all updates applied. The only packages outside of the fedora stock install is xmms-mp3 and the mythtv suite.
The dependency shows GNOME 2.12 from nrpms. So this is pretty different from a stock installation.
That is true, I will show you the same thing before the nrprms update of gnome, I have another fc4 machine to build first of this week. These hooks into gnome are scatttered all over the stock install. As I recall one item to be removed was the openoffice package, why should that be hooked into gnome?
John
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Hey,
John Pierce Wrote: As I recall one item to be removed was the openoffice package
You got that write, and along with that, all of the KDE files were gone as well... thing is, I did not use the command u listed, i used: # yum groupremove gnome
However, I don't have gnome installed now, so I cant try the command any time soon, but I have another machine that I have gnome on, and I'll try the order again tom and list to you all what it says
On 12/31/05, John Pierce john.j35@gmail.com wrote:
That is true, I will show you the same thing before the nrprms update of gnome, I have another fc4 machine to build first of this week. These hooks into gnome are scatttered all over the stock install. As I recall one item to be removed was the openoffice package, why should that be hooked into gnome?
John
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On 12/31/05, Ali Helmy alihelmy@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
John Pierce Wrote: As I recall one item to be removed was the openoffice package
You got that write, and along with that, all of the KDE files were gone as well... thing is, I did not use the command u listed, i used: # yum groupremove gnome
However, I don't have gnome installed now, so I cant try the command any time soon, but I have another machine that I have gnome on, and I'll try the order again tom and list to you all what it says
On 12/31/05, John Pierce john.j35@gmail.com wrote:
That is true, I will show you the same thing before the nrprms update of gnome, I have another fc4 machine to build first of this week. These hooks into gnome are scatttered all over the stock install. As I recall one item to be removed was the openoffice package, why should that be hooked into gnome?
John
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Hello What if I want to remove gnome but keep some of the utilities like gaim, firefox,.... anyone tried that ?
Thanks hicham
Hello What if I want to remove gnome but keep some of the utilities like gaim, firefox,.... anyone tried that ?
I would leave it alone. If that's not good enough, then remove gnome and whatever goes with it, then reinstall what you want.
If that pulls everything back in, there's nothing more to be done, but that might not happen.
_MY_ time is too valuable to fight over a few dollars worth of disk.
Okay, I finally got around to the fresh install, and the following gnome packages are from the install cd's, note all of the dependencies that would need to be uninstalled.
Dependencies Resolved
============================================================================= Package Arch Version Repository Size ============================================================================= Removing: gnome-applets i386 1:2.10.1-9 installed 28 M gnome-audio noarch 2.0.0-3 installed 1.4 M gnome-desktop i386 2.10.0-5 installed 1.3 M gnome-doc-utils noarch 0.2.0-2 installed 1.0 M gnome-games i386 1:2.10.0-5 installed 20 M gnome-icon-theme noarch 2.10.1-4 installed 3.1 M gnome-kerberos i386 0.3.3-2 installed 74 k gnome-keyring i386 0.4.2-1 installed 558 k gnome-keyring-manager i386 0.0.4-3 installed 508 k gnome-libs i386 1:1.4.1.2.90-46 installed 2.9 M gnome-mag i386 0.12.0-2 installed 221 k gnome-media i386 2.10.2-4 installed 5.0 M gnome-menus i386 2.10.1-3 installed 166 k gnome-mime-data i386 2.4.2-1 installed 3.4 M gnome-netstatus i386 2.10.0-4 installed 909 k gnome-panel i386 2.10.1-10 installed 8.4 M gnome-pilot i386 2.0.13-2 installed 1.7 M gnome-print i386 1:0.37-11 installed 1.1 M gnome-python2 i386 2.10.0-1 installed 548 k gnome-python2-bonobo i386 2.10.0-1 installed 150 k gnome-python2-canvas i386 2.10.0-1 installed 36 k gnome-python2-extras i386 2.10.0-2.1 installed 93 k gnome-python2-gnomevfs i386 2.10.0-1 installed 112 k gnome-python2-gtkhtml2 i386 2.10.0-2.1 installed 17 k gnome-session i386 2.10.0-2 installed 1.2 M gnome-speech i386 0.3.6-1 installed 57 k gnome-spell i386 1.0.5-10 installed 188 k gnome-system-monitor i386 2.10.0-2 installed 1.5 M gnome-terminal i386 2.10.0-2 installed 6.8 M gnome-themes i386 2.10.1-2 installed 3.1 M gnome-user-docs noarch 2.8.1-2 installed 1.9 M gnome-utils i386 1:2.10.0-3 installed 13 M gnome-vfs2 i386 2.10.0-5 installed 3.9 M gnome-vfs2-smb i386 2.10.0-5 installed 26 k gnome-volume-manager i386 1.3.1-1 installed 737 k Removing for dependencies: Guppi i386 0.40.3-23 installed 1.4 M NetworkManager-gnome i386 0.4-15.cvs20050404 installed 180 k control-center i386 1:2.10.1-6 installed 6.6 M desktop-printing i386 0.18-10 installed 270 k dia i386 1:0.94-11 installed 8.5 M eel2 i386 2.10.0-2 installed 1.2 M evince i386 0.3.1-1 installed 996 k evolution i386 2.2.2-5 installed 23 M evolution-data-server i386 1.2.2-3 installed 9.1 M evolution-webcal i386 2.2.0-1 installed 221 k file-roller i386 2.10.0-1 installed 3.2 M firefox i386 1.0.4-4 installed 50 M firstboot noarch 1.3.42-1 installed 800 k gaim i386 1:1.3.0-1.fc4 installed 10 M gconf-editor i386 2.10.0-5 installed 707 k gdk-pixbuf-gnome i386 1:0.22.0-18 installed 12 k gdm i386 1:2.6.0.8-16 installed 7.9 M gedit i386 1:2.10.2-3 installed 12 M gimp i386 2:2.2.7-4 installed 25 M gimp-data-extras noarch 2.0.1-1 installed 7.6 M gimp-gap i386 2.0.2-4 installed 2.9 M gimp-help noarch 2-0.1.0.7.1 installed 21 M gimp-print-plugin i386 4.2.7-7 installed 191 k gnomemeeting i386 1.2.1-1 installed 7.3 M gnopernicus i386 0.10.6-1 installed 5.7 M gnucash i386 1.8.11-3 installed 35 M gok i386 1.0.3-1 installed 7.5 M gstreamer-plugins i386 0.8.8-6 installed 3.6 M gthumb i386 2.6.5-1 installed 5.1 M gtkhtml i386 1.1.9-11 installed 1.4 M gtkhtml2 i386 2.6.3-1 installed 369 k gtkhtml3 i386 3.6.2-1 installed 3.1 M hwbrowser noarch 0.21-1 installed 206 k krb5-auth-dialog i386 0.2-5 installed 18 k libbonoboui i386 2.8.1-4 installed 1.1 M libgail-gnome i386 1.1.0-5 installed 59 k libgal2 i386 2:2.4.2-4 installed 2.2 M libglade i386 1:0.17-16 installed 243 k libgnome i386 2.10.0-3 installed 2.8 M libgnomeprint15 i386 1:0.37-11 installed 511 k libgnomeui i386 2.10.0-1 installed 2.8 M libgsf i386 1.11.1-2 installed 156 k librsvg2 i386 2.9.5-2 installed 370 k mozilla i386 37:1.7.8-2 installed 25 M nautilus i386 2.10.0-4 installed 11 M nautilus-cd-burner i386 2.10.0-2 installed 896 k planner i386 0.13-2 installed 4.1 M rhn-applet i386 2.1.17-3 installed 895 k rhythmbox i386 0.8.8-2 installed 3.3 M sound-juicer i386 2.10.1-1 installed 1.1 M system-config-httpd noarch 5:1.3.2-2 installed 1.6 M system-config-lvm noarch 0.9.32-1.0 installed 647 k system-config-network noarch 1.3.26-1 installed 2.1 M system-config-packages noarch 1.2.25-1 installed 1.1 M system-config-printer-gui i386 0.6.131-1 installed 440 k totem i386 1.0.2-1 installed 3.0 M up2date-gnome i386 4.4.23-4 installed 661 k vino i386 2.10.0-4 installed 977 k xsane-gimp i386 0.95-3 installed 561 k yelp i386 2.10.0-1 installed 1.0 M
Transaction Summary ============================================================================= Install 0 Package(s) Update 0 Package(s) Remove 95 Package(s) Total download size: 0 Is this ok [y/N]:
Note for example, Firefox, Mozilla, GIMP, system-config-httpd, system-config-lvm why should gnome be required for these packages to work. Granted they are GUI but they could be designed to run without the gnome desktop system.
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Note for example, Firefox, Mozilla, GIMP, system-config-httpd, system-config-lvm why should gnome be required for these packages to work. Granted they are GUI but they could be designed to run without the gnome desktop system.
John
The packaging listing looks saner than earlier list but the above packages shouldnt be removed. I will initiate a discussion in fedora-devel.
Hi
Note for example, Firefox, Mozilla, GIMP, system-config-httpd, system-config-lvm why should gnome be required for these packages to work. Granted they are GUI but they could be designed to run without the gnome desktop system.
John
The packaging listing looks saner than earlier list but the above packages shouldnt be removed. I will initiate a discussion in fedora-devel.
I am unable to reproduce this on Fedora devel tree aka rawhide. Yum groupremove "GNOME Desktop Environment" on a box with Gimp, Firefox and all the system-config-* doesnt list it for removal, only the GNOME specific things. Maybe things have improved from the release you are using.
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