firefox javascript

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

I just update my firefox to 46.
When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
be working any more.
I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.

I am the same issue with gmx.com

What you I do ?

Thank.

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
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[JD]

On 05/08/2016 08:34 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just update my firefox to 46.
> When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
> be working any more.
> I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.
>
> I am the same issue with gmx.com
>
> What you I do ?
>
> Thank.

Have you tried to build FF on your system?
Many find it impossible, as it is build with versions
of dependencies that you cannot install without wrecking your system :) :)

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

where do I get the source (src) file ?

Thank.

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 5:33 PM
> From: jd1008 
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/08/2016 08:34 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just update my firefox to 46.
> > When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
> > be working any more.
> > I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.
> >
> > I am the same issue with gmx.com
> >
> > What you I do ?
> >
> > Thank.
>
> Have you tried to build FF on your system?
> Many find it impossible, as it is build with versions
> of dependencies that you cannot install without wrecking your system :) :)
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[JD]

On 05/08/2016 12:18 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> where do I get the source (src) file ?
>
> Thank.
>
> ===========================================================================
>   Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
>   Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
>   Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
>   Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
>   189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
> ===========================================================================
> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 5:33 PM
> > From: jd1008 
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> >
> > On 05/08/2016 08:34 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I just update my firefox to 46.
> > > When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
> > > be working any more.
> > > I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.
> > >
> > > I am the same issue with gmx.com
> > >
> > > What you I do ?
> > >
> > > Thank.
> >
> > Have you tried to build FF on your system?
> > Many find it impossible, as it is build with versions
> > of dependencies that you cannot install without wrecking your system :) :)
> > --

See
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Source_Code
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Source_Code...
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/Viewing_and_searching_...

[Patrick Dupre]

I guess that I should wait for a version with fixed bugs.
How do I step back to the previous version ?

Thank.

===========================================================================
 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 8:31 PM
> From: jd1008 
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/08/2016 12:18 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > where do I get the source (src) file ?
> >
> > Thank.
> >
> > ===========================================================================
> >   Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
> >   Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
> >   Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
> >   Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
> >   189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
> > ===========================================================================
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 5:33 PM
> > > From: jd1008 
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> > >
> > > On 05/08/2016 08:34 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > I just update my firefox to 46.
> > > > When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
> > > > be working any more.
> > > > I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.
> > > >
> > > > I am the same issue with gmx.com
> > > >
> > > > What you I do ?
> > > >
> > > > Thank.
> > >
> > > Have you tried to build FF on your system?
> > > Many find it impossible, as it is build with versions
> > > of dependencies that you cannot install without wrecking your system :) :)
> > > --
>
> See
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Source_Code
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Source_Code...
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/Viewing_and_searching_...
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[Andras Simon]

2016-05-08 16:34 GMT+02:00, Patrick Dupre :
> Hello,
>
> I just update my firefox to 46.
> When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
> be working any more.
> I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.

Have you checked some other sites? Are you sure it doesn't work? Try this one:

https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp

It should show something like

JavaScript	 True
 JavaScriptEnabled	 True

If it doesn't, then are you using NoScript or some similar extension?

If not, try enabling javascript in about:config
Set javascript.enabled to true if it isn't already.

Recompiling firefox will probably  lead you nowhere.

[JD]

On 05/08/2016 12:51 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> I guess that I should wait for a version with fixed bugs.
> How do I step back to the previous version ?
>
> Thank.
> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 8:31 PM
> > From: jd1008 
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> >
> > On 05/08/2016 12:18 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > where do I get the source (src) file ?
> > >
> > > Thank.
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 5:33 PM
> > > > From: jd1008 
> > > > To: [e-mail]
> > > > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> > > >
> > > > On 05/08/2016 08:34 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I just update my firefox to 46.
> > > > > When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
> > > > > be working any more.
> > > > > I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am the same issue with gmx.com
> > > > >
> > > > > What you I do ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank.
> > > >
> > > > Have you tried to build FF on your system?
> > > > Many find it impossible, as it is build with versions
> > > > of dependencies that you cannot install without wrecking your system :) :)
> > > > --
> >
> > See
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Source_Code
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Source_Code...
> > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/Viewing_and_searching_...

Go to https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
and find the release you want.
I am not sure you will be able to match the release version
with the source code bundle.

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
provides:

JavaScript	 True
JavaScriptEnabled	 false

Noscript is disabled
The aonly addons that I am using are:
ADblock plus
and
RequestPolicy continued

about:config
javascript.enabled
status: default
value: true

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 8:52 PM
> From: "Andras Simon" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> 2016-05-08 16:34 GMT+02:00, Patrick Dupre :
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just update my firefox to 46.
> > When I try to connect to dogpile, the javascript does not seem to
> > be working any more.
> > I use the option "activate", but it is not enough.
>
> Have you checked some other sites? Are you sure it doesn't work? Try this one:
>
> https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
>
> It should show something like
>
> JavaScript	 True
>  JavaScriptEnabled	 True
>
> If it doesn't, then are you using NoScript or some similar extension?
>
> If not, try enabling javascript in about:config
> Set javascript.enabled to true if it isn't already.
> Recompiling firefox will probably  lead you nowhere.
>
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[Ed Greshko]

On 05/09/16 03:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
> provides:
>
> JavaScript	 True
> JavaScriptEnabled	 false
>
> Noscript is disabled
> The aonly addons that I am using are:
> ADblock plus
> and
> RequestPolicy continued
>
> about:config
> javascript.enabled
> status: default
> value: true

FF v 46.0.1

https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
shows....

JavaScript 	 True
 JavaScriptEnabled 	 True

have you tried using a different login?

Or, as a test. move your ~/.mozilla directory so that you start afresh?  You can always
move it back. 
Another user had a problem with scrollbars, also after an upgrade, that was fixed by
moving the directory.  H

[Patrick Dupre]

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 9:18 PM
> From: "Ed Greshko" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/09/16 03:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
> > provides:
> >
> > JavaScript	 True
> > JavaScriptEnabled	 false
> >
> > Noscript is disabled
> > The aonly addons that I am using are:
> > ADblock plus
> > and
> > RequestPolicy continued
> >
> > about:config
> > javascript.enabled
> > status: default
> > value: true
>
> FF v 46.0.1
>
> https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
> shows....
>
> JavaScript 	 True
>  JavaScriptEnabled 	 True
>
> have you tried using a different login?
>
> Or, as a test. move your ~/.mozilla directory so that you start afresh?  You can always
> move it back.

It did not help!
> Another user had a problem with scrollbars, also after an upgrade, that was fixed by
> moving the directory.  H
>
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[Patrick Dupre]

It did not help, but, now I have:

JavaScriptEnabled	 True

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
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 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 9:18 PM
> From: "Ed Greshko" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/09/16 03:07, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
> > provides:
> >
> > JavaScript	 True
> > JavaScriptEnabled	 false
> >
> > Noscript is disabled
> > The aonly addons that I am using are:
> > ADblock plus
> > and
> > RequestPolicy continued
> >
> > about:config
> > javascript.enabled
> > status: default
> > value: true
>
> FF v 46.0.1
>
> https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp
> shows....
>
> JavaScript 	 True
>  JavaScriptEnabled 	 True
>
> have you tried using a different login?
>
> Or, as a test. move your ~/.mozilla directory so that you start afresh?  You can always
> move it back. 
> Another user had a problem with scrollbars, also after an upgrade, that was fixed by
> moving the directory.  H
>
> -- 
> You're Welcome Zachary Quinto
> --
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[Ed Greshko]

On 05/09/16 04:04, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> It did not help, but, now I have:
>
> JavaScriptEnabled	 True

So, you now have....

JavaScript True
JavaScriptEnabled True

Meaning that problem is "resolved".  I don't see anything wrong with http://www.gmx.com/
but I also don't have an account so probably can't see what you're seeing.

You may have to clear your cache to get fresh pages.

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
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 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 at 11:58 PM
> From: "Ed Greshko" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/09/16 04:04, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > It did not help, but, now I have:
> >
> > JavaScriptEnabled	 True
>
> So, you now have....
>
> JavaScript True
> JavaScriptEnabled True
>
> Meaning that problem is "resolved".  I don't see anything wrong with http://www.gmx.com/
> but I also don't have an account so probably can't see what you're seeing.
>
> You may have to clear your cache to get fresh pages.
>
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[Ed Greshko]

On 05/09/16 06:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
> This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !

That is why I put resolved in quotes....

What I'm saying is that it is resolved in that you've gone from....

JavaScript True
JavaScriptEnabled false

to

JavaScript True
JavaScriptEnabled True

Now, unfortunately, I'm unable to duplicate or test the problem you're seeing since I
don't know what sites are failing and how they are failing.  If a login is needed to
access the pages that are failing....when then it is hard to comment.

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

gmx.com fails:
Please enable JavaScript to experience the full functionality of GMX.
dogpile.com fails:
http://www.ledauphine.com/ fails

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 1:05 AM
> From: "Ed Greshko" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/09/16 06:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
> > This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !
>
> That is why I put resolved in quotes....
>
> What I'm saying is that it is resolved in that you've gone from....
>
> JavaScript True
> JavaScriptEnabled false
>
> to
>
> JavaScript True
> JavaScriptEnabled True
>
> Now, unfortunately, I'm unable to duplicate or test the problem you're seeing since I
> don't know what sites are failing and how they are failing.  If a login is needed to
> access the pages that are failing....when then it is hard to comment.
>
> -- 
> You're Welcome Zachary Quinto
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[Patrick Dupre]

OK,

It is fixed by removing RequestPolicy Continued.
I do not know why this addon has been activated!!

Sorry for the noise.

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 1:05 AM
> From: "Ed Greshko" 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/09/16 06:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
> > This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !
>
> That is why I put resolved in quotes....
>
> What I'm saying is that it is resolved in that you've gone from....
>
> JavaScript True
> JavaScriptEnabled false
>
> to
>
> JavaScript True
> JavaScriptEnabled True
>
> Now, unfortunately, I'm unable to duplicate or test the problem you're seeing since I
> don't know what sites are failing and how they are failing.  If a login is needed to
> access the pages that are failing....when then it is hard to comment.
>
> -- 
> You're Welcome Zachary Quinto
> --
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[JD]

On 05/08/2016 05:24 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
>
> gmx.com fails:
> Please enable JavaScript to experience the full functionality of GMX.
> dogpile.com fails:
> http://www.ledauphine.com/ fails
> > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 1:05 AM
> > From: "Ed Greshko" 
> > To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> >
> > On 05/09/16 06:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
> > > This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !
> >
> > That is why I put resolved in quotes....
> >
> > What I'm saying is that it is resolved in that you've gone from....
> >
> > JavaScript True
> > JavaScriptEnabled false
> >
> > to
> >
> > JavaScript True
> > JavaScriptEnabled True
> >
> > Now, unfortunately, I'm unable to duplicate or test the problem you're seeing since I
> > don't know what sites are failing and how they are failing.  If a login is needed to
> > access the pages that are failing....when then it is hard to comment.
> >
> > -- 
> > You're Welcome Zachary Quinto
> > --

I do not see in my FF any settings for enabling or disabling java, nor 
javascript.
So, where are these 2 settings?

JavaScript True
JavaScriptEnabled True

[Patrick Dupre]

https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp?bhcp=1

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 Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
 Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
 Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
 Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
===========================================================================
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 6:43 PM
> From: jd1008 
> To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On 05/08/2016 05:24 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > gmx.com fails:
> > Please enable JavaScript to experience the full functionality of GMX.
> > dogpile.com fails:
> > http://www.ledauphine.com/ fails
> > > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 1:05 AM
> > > From: "Ed Greshko" 
> > > To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> > > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> > >
> > > On 05/09/16 06:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
> > > > This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !
> > >
> > > That is why I put resolved in quotes....
> > >
> > > What I'm saying is that it is resolved in that you've gone from....
> > >
> > > JavaScript True
> > > JavaScriptEnabled false
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > JavaScript True
> > > JavaScriptEnabled True
> > >
> > > Now, unfortunately, I'm unable to duplicate or test the problem you're seeing since I
> > > don't know what sites are failing and how they are failing.  If a login is needed to
> > > access the pages that are failing....when then it is hard to comment.
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > You're Welcome Zachary Quinto
> > > --
>
> I do not see in my FF any settings for enabling or disabling java, nor 
> javascript.
> So, where are these 2 settings?
>
> JavaScript True
> JavaScriptEnabled True
>
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[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 10:43:22 -0600,
  jd1008  wrote:
> I do not see in my FF any settings for enabling or disabling java, nor 
> javascript.
> So, where are these 2 settings?
>
> JavaScript True
> JavaScriptEnabled True

javascript.enabled is in about:config . I set it to false most of the time.

[Patrick Dupre]

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> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 7:55 PM
> From: "Bruno Wolff III" 
> To: jd1008 
> Cc: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
>
> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 10:43:22 -0600,
>   jd1008  wrote:
> > I do not see in my FF any settings for enabling or disabling java, nor 
> > javascript.
> > So, where are these 2 settings?
> >
> > JavaScript True
> > JavaScriptEnabled True
>
> javascript.enabled is in about:config . I set it to false most of the time.

Why ?
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[Bruno Wolff III]

> > javascript.enabled is in about:config . I set it to false most of the time.
>
> Why ?

Because javascript is way too powerful to leave on when visiting random 
web sites or sites with third party ads. It greatly increases the attack 
surface of a web browser both for compromizes and for privacy violations.

[Bruno Wolff III]

> Is there a way to activate the javascripts only for specific website ?

There is an add on that sort of does that. But it turns out, that it needs 
javascript to do this and there was at least one compromize that worked 
if javascript was enabled, but blocked by the add on.

[Patrick Dupre]

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> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 8:13 PM
> From: "Bruno Wolff III" 
> To: "Patrick Dupre" 
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> > > javascript.enabled is in about:config . I set it to false most of the time.
> >
> > Why ?
>
> Because javascript is way too powerful to leave on when visiting random 
> web sites or sites with third party ads. It greatly increases the attack 
> surface of a web browser both for compromizes and for privacy violations.

Is there a way to activate the javascripts only for specific website ?

[Patrick Dupre]

If I want to access to gmx.com, I did not find any other option than to have
javascript enabled.

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> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 8:33 PM
> From: "Bruno Wolff III" 
> To: "Patrick Dupre" 
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> > Is there a way to activate the javascripts only for specific website ?
>
> There is an add on that sort of does that. But it turns out, that it needs 
> javascript to do this and there was at least one compromize that worked 
> if javascript was enabled, but blocked by the add on.

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 20:59:30 +0200,
  Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> If I want to access to gmx.com, I did not find any other option than to have
> javascript enabled.

Some web sites are broken. They may be too lazy to make sure their interface 
is usable to work without javascipt. (And the Fedora project has this 
problem with some of its web services.) Or they may want to force you to 
use it, to facilitate doing things you'd rather they didn't (e.g. tracking, 
DRM, compromize attempts).

[JD]

Why would anyone buy free software?
These guys take free firefox and do some simple tweaks,
and sell it??? How lame is that???

The FSF should rightly be outraged.

On 05/09/2016 11:24 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp?bhcp=1
>
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>   Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
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>   189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
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> > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 6:43 PM
> > From: jd1008 
> > To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> >
> > On 05/08/2016 05:24 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > gmx.com fails:
> > > Please enable JavaScript to experience the full functionality of GMX.
> > > dogpile.com fails:
> > > http://www.ledauphine.com/ fails
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 1:05 AM
> > > > From: "Ed Greshko" 
> > > > To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> > > > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> > > >
> > > > On 05/09/16 06:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
> > > > > This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !
> > > >
> > > > That is why I put resolved in quotes....
> > > >
> > > > What I'm saying is that it is resolved in that you've gone from....
> > > >
> > > > JavaScript True
> > > > JavaScriptEnabled false
> > > >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > JavaScript True
> > > > JavaScriptEnabled True
> > > >
> > > > Now, unfortunately, I'm unable to duplicate or test the problem you're seeing since I
> > > > don't know what sites are failing and how they are failing.  If a login is needed to
> > > > access the pages that are failing....when then it is hard to comment.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > You're Welcome Zachary Quinto
> > > > --
> >
> > I do not see in my FF any settings for enabling or disabling java, nor
> > javascript.
> > So, where are these 2 settings?
> >
> > JavaScript True
> > JavaScriptEnabled True
> >
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[JD]

On 05/09/2016 01:10 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2016 at 20:59:30 +0200,
>  Patrick Dupre  wrote:
> > If I want to access to gmx.com, I did not find any other option than 
> > to have
> > javascript enabled.
>
> Some web sites are broken. They may be too lazy to make sure their 
> interface is usable to work without javascipt. (And the Fedora project 
> has this problem with some of its web services.) Or they may want to 
> force you to use it, to facilitate doing things you'd rather they 
> didn't (e.g. tracking, DRM, compromize attempts).

In addition to allowing the gmx.com javascript,
you have to also allow these javascripts:

indexww.com
openx.net
googlesyndication.com
uicdn.com
exponential.cm
googletagmanager.com
googletagservices.com

In other words, this is all malware they are pushing into your browser
which blithely executes them and damn the torpedoes.

[Doug]

On 05/09/2016 01:59 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> If I want to access to gmx.com, I did not find any other option than to have
> javascript enabled.

I have seen "complaints" about javascript in Firefox for quite some time 
now. I also see that there are very few if any malware exploits in 
Linux. So what is the problem?

--doug

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 09 May 2016, Doug sent:
> I have seen "complaints" about javascript in Firefox for quite some
> time now. I also see that there are very few if any malware exploits
> in Linux. So what is the problem?

To summarise it in a nutshell:  You don't have to be able to exploit the
OS to be able to exploit the person using it.

And there's the problem with pages which, while (perhaps) not directly
trying to do something to your computer, are so badly coded that their
page causes Firefox to run your CPU at full throttle.  Making it near
impossible to do anything with your computer.

[Tim]

Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > Some web sites are broken. They may be too lazy to make sure their 
> > interface is usable to work without javascipt ... Or they may want to 
> > force you to use it, to facilitate doing things you'd rather they 
> > didn't

jd1008:
> In addition to allowing the gmx.com javascript,
> you have to also allow these javascripts:
>
> indexww.com
> openx.net
> googlesyndication.com
> uicdn.com
> exponential.cm
> googletagmanager.com
> googletagservices.com
>
> In other words, this is all malware they are pushing into your browser
> which blithely executes them and damn the torpedoes.

While I can't comment on whether they're malware, we're going to
continue to see more and more of this thing, as various turn-key web
solutions (internet shop fronts that are being put on-line by some
computer nerd, instead of the business paying for someone to create a
decent on-line service), become less self-contained, and rely on
external services to do their tricks.  I particularly notice that with
the various googletag domains - how you can't select things, nor see
prices, on shopping sites without enabling it.

And if you go to news sites, there's a mass of external services that
want to be allowed, because the page has incorporated external content
from twitter (& other social media), instead of quoting from it.  You
also find that those pages rapidly become stale, because the
incorporated content disappears on them.

I use two add-ons with Firefox, as my defaults for all installations,
the FlashBlock and NoScript ones.  They do take care of most annoyances,
until you come across a page where you have to experiment with which of
more than a dozen external services need allowing before the page works.
And it often requires reloads for another half-dozen *new* services to
be contemplated as they get dragged in by the content you'd just allowed
moments ago.

Quite apart from the nuisance factor on you, it is a disaster waiting to
happen to the websites.  People keep discovering cross-site exploits,
and if your website relies on a plethora of external services to run,
you've exposed yourself to an extra onslaught of exploit vectors.

[Tim]

On Mon, 2016-05-09 at 01:24 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> gmx.com fails:
> Please enable JavaScript to experience the full functionality of GMX.
> dogpile.com fails:
> http://www.ledauphine.com/ fails

I can't comment on those particular sites, but with some other sites the
error messages are often erroneous.  They do things like make a
presumption on what your browser is capable of with a false test.

e.g. Complain that you didn't have cookies set because they tried to do
it with a JavaScript function that didn't work (when you were accepting
cookies, but were blocking JavaScript).  Their error message misleads
you.

e.g. The converse of the above.  Do some cookie test that fails, but
complain about JavaScript.

e.g. Try to do something with JavaScript that your browser doesn't
support, yet your browse does a plethora of other things with JavaScript
without problems.  And they declare that you must enable JavaScript.
The trouble is that their test of whether you have JavaScript enabled
didn't test whether JavaScript was actually available, but tried to use
one feature of it that wasn't going to work.

I could list numerous examples, but you ought to be able to see a
pattern emerging, and you may have to try oddball changes to see if you
can get through their site (e.g. change cookie options when seeing
errors regarding JavaScript).

Some sites are just programmed by idiots (*), and your only courses of
actions are to use a different browser, or even a different OS.

* People with a blinkered viewpoint who cannot see alternatives to
whatever is that they're attempting to do, and cannot see that they've
got a weirdly narrow point of view.

Can you count to a 100?
Yes.
Can you accurately count 100 people out of a crowd that runs past you?
No.
Then you can't count to 100.
Yes, I can "count to 100," numbskull.

[Stephen Morris]

On 10/05/16 03:24, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> https://www.cyscape.com/showbrow.asp?bhcp=1
>
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>   Patrick DUPRÉ                                 | | email: [e-mail]
>   Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | |
>   Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale           | |
>   Tel.  (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12                   | | Fax: [phone]
>   189A, avenue Maurice Schumann                 | | 59140 Dunkerque, France
> ===========================================================================
> > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 6:43 PM
> > From: jd1008 
> > To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> >
> > On 05/08/2016 05:24 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > gmx.com fails:
> > > Please enable JavaScript to experience the full functionality of GMX.
> > > dogpile.com fails:
> > > http://www.ledauphine.com/ fails

Hi Patrick,
     I am using Firefox 49.0a1 with a plugin that enables me to 
dynamically toggle Javascript, Java and Flash. If I use that plugin to 
toggle Javascript off it sets Javascript.enabled to false. If I then 
access gmx.com I see the message you see, then if toggle Javascript 
active again the message goes away. I'm not sure that the site you used 
to determine whether Javascript is active or not is working properly 
with your Firefox, as if I try to access the link you provided when 
Javascript is not enabled the site will not load, but if toggle 
Javascript enabled again and reload the site it loads fine, so I don't 
see how that site could tell you that your browser could use Javascript 
but it was not enabled.

regards,
Steve
> > > > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 at 1:05 AM
> > > > From: "Ed Greshko" 
> > > > To: "Community support for Fedora users" 
> > > > Subject: Re: firefox javascript
> > > >
> > > > On 05/09/16 06:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > No, it is not solved, It looks like that the javascript are not lauched!
> > > > > This happens on 50% of the sites that I used to visit !
> > > >
> > > > That is why I put resolved in quotes....
> > > >
> > > > What I'm saying is that it is resolved in that you've gone from....
> > > >
> > > > JavaScript True
> > > > JavaScriptEnabled false
> > > >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > JavaScript True
> > > > JavaScriptEnabled True
> > > >
> > > > Now, unfortunately, I'm unable to duplicate or test the problem you're seeing since I
> > > > don't know what sites are failing and how they are failing.  If a login is needed to
> > > > access the pages that are failing....when then it is hard to comment.
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > > You're Welcome Zachary Quinto
> > > > --
> >
> > I do not see in my FF any settings for enabling or disabling java, nor
> > javascript.
> > So, where are these 2 settings?
> >
> > JavaScript True
> > JavaScriptEnabled True
> >
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