Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
Any help appreciated.
Cheers,
Phil...
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Phil Dobbin bukowskiscat@gmail.com wrote:
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
For me no. I've tried it twice for F-17->18 and both times it was a complete disaster. The first time on my desktop it couldn't find ANY of the packages that it downloaded and left my system completely unusable. The second time on my work laptop which I had working happily with safeboot (work requirement) it only found "most" of the packages it downloaded and I could boot, but that's about it. After trying to reinstall fresh with F18 it would no longer boot XP due to safeboot and I had to get my whole system reimaged at work. Now that it's on the whole drive and encrypted, it's going to be far more risky to try and put Fedora back on it. So not only did the upgrade fail, but now I can't dual boot anymore.
Anyway, I hope it actually IS stable, not just going stable.
Just my two data points...
Richard
Am 06.04.2013 16:41, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby:
On 2013-04-06 17:11, Richard Shaw wrote:
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?For me no. I've tried it twice for F-17->18 and both times it was a complete disaster.
I made a fresh install for my F17 -> F18 upgrade
that's not the question
you can avoid Fedup easily by a yum-upgrade, the instructions are clear and working fine since many years/releases and not preupgrade nor fedup nor re-install where needed at least since Fedorfa Core 3
Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 06.04.2013 16:41, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby:
On 2013-04-06 17:11, Richard Shaw wrote:
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?For me no. I've tried it twice for F-17->18 and both times it was a complete disaster.
I made a fresh install for my F17 -> F18 upgrade
that's not the question
Well, the question was not "what did you do instead," so Mihamina at least did at least provide an answer to the yes/no original question.
you can avoid Fedup easily by a yum-upgrade, the instructions are clear and working fine since many years/releases and not preupgrade nor fedup nor re-install where needed at least since Fedorfa Core 3
The instructions which you mentioned without saying where you found such clear guidance. If you're going to help, post a link to what you feel is useful. I know what you're talking about, but I haven't found that just diddling yum will run anything to handle required changes in config file, depending on hardware.
For the record, NO I am not happy with fedup, I have never yet had it work in any sensible way, or produce any useful system after running. I admit that I don't have a lot of systems with nothing but a Fedora install on it, and not all my systems use the default file layout, but an upgrade of any kind should use what's there.
On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fed... so far worked reliably.
Ralf
On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fed...
so far worked reliably.
Thanks to everybody for their answers.
Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine in question using yum.
It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade without a single hitch.
Cheers,
Phil...
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fed...
Specifically at this link, there's a link to a wonderful script which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade
It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."
MP
so far worked reliably.
Thanks to everybody for their answers.
Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine in question using yum.
It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade without a single hitch.
Cheers,
Phil...
I upgraded 11 desktop and 5 servers and the biggest problem I had was one of the servers did not do the switch properly to fc18 and had to jump through hoops, to big to explain, but got it installed. Another did not switch kernels and had to yum indstall it All but one where single o/s machine, one was lib-virt kvm image and it upgraded fine.
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Pyziur pyz@brama.com wrote:
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/**wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_** yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18
Specifically at this link, there's a link to a wonderful script which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18: https://github.com/xsuchy/**fedora-upgradehttps://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade
It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."
MP
so far worked reliably.
Thanks to everybody for their answers.
Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine in question using yum.
It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade without a single hitch.
Cheers,
Phil...
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On 04/06/2013 09:28 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fed...
Specifically at this link, there's a link to a wonderful script which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade
It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."
Thanks for that. That does look interesting.
Has the yum upgrade procedure changed recently? I swear it used to be more involved than what I've just read on the Wiki.
Cheers,
Phil...
Max Pyziur wrote:
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fed...
Specifically at this link, there's a link to a wonderful script which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade
It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."
I can't say that I'm worried that this hasn't been through QA, after all fedup *has*
MP
so far worked reliably.
Thanks to everybody for their answers.
Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine in question using yum.
It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade without a single hitch.
Cheers,
Phil...
On 7 Apr 2013, at 05:03, Bill Davidsen davidsen@tmr.com wrote:
Max Pyziur wrote:
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Hi, all.
I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around eight to ten weeks.
After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via FedUp lately?
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fed...
Specifically at this link, there's a link to a wonderful script which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18: https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade
It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."
I can't say that I'm worried that this hasn't been through QA, after all fedup *has*
MP
so far worked reliably.
Thanks to everybody for their answers.
Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine in question using yum.
It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade without a single hitch.
Cheers,
Phil...
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I did a FedUp on my laptop and it was fine.
Junk.
On 06/04/13 10:56, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found the procedures outlined on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fed...
so far worked reliably.
Ralf
I just tried the procedure offered there to upgrade F18/64 XFCE to F19 and it appears to have produced a working system. I rebooted and tried most applications, everything appears to work as it did before the upgrade even though it's not a released version.
The process is simple enough, it took some time, must have been more than an hour, I went to town to pick up horse feed while it ran and it was still finishing when I got back.
From my one try I would say the upgrade method is the easiest I've tried, no reconfiguration to mess with!
Bob
As a coda to this, I installed 17 in a VM via the network install & then grabbed FedUp from Testing & ran it.
Three hours later it completed, rebooted & all was well. This was, of course, a completely clean distro (I only installed git & grabbed my dotfiles off of GitHub before running FedUp). Whether the same would be said of a fully working machine that's been set up as a dev box, I'll have to wait & see.
I'm going to clone the machine with Clonezilla & give FedUp a try. If it fails, I'll try the Yum route.
Cheers,
Phil...
What brand of VM???
On 4/8/2013 9:09 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
As a coda to this, I installed 17 in a VM via the network install & then grabbed FedUp from Testing & ran it.
Three hours later it completed, rebooted & all was well. This was, of course, a completely clean distro (I only installed git & grabbed my dotfiles off of GitHub before running FedUp). Whether the same would be said of a fully working machine that's been set up as a dev box, I'll have to wait & see.
I'm going to clone the machine with Clonezilla & give FedUp a try. If it fails, I'll try the Yum route.
Cheers,
Phil...
On 04/09/2013 05:39 AM, Thomas Dineen wrote:
What brand of VM???
KVM running on Fedora 17 64-bit on a Lenovo ThinkCentre. I also used KVM on a Poweredge 860 running CentOS 6.4 64-bit but its graphics card couldn't handle the latest Gnome (the same thing happened on OpenSUSE 12.3).
Works fine on a minimal/server though on the Dell.
Cheers,
Phil...
On 4/8/2013 9:09 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
As a coda to this, I installed 17 in a VM via the network install & then grabbed FedUp from Testing & ran it.
Three hours later it completed, rebooted & all was well. This was, of course, a completely clean distro (I only installed git & grabbed my dotfiles off of GitHub before running FedUp). Whether the same would be said of a fully working machine that's been set up as a dev box, I'll have to wait & see.
I'm going to clone the machine with Clonezilla & give FedUp a try. If it fails, I'll try the Yum route.
Cheers,
Phil...
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