Hi, May be I am half brain-dead and I cannot figure out where to start. In FC2, I remember it used be called cupsd-conf or something line that. How do I configure cups in FC3? I am trying to use cups-pdf but cannot add a new printer until I can configure cups. I am using gnome.
Regards from VJ
VJ wrote:
Hi, May be I am half brain-dead and I cannot figure out where to start. In FC2, I remember it used be called cupsd-conf or something line that. How do I configure cups in FC3? I am trying to use cups-pdf but cannot add a new printer until I can configure cups. I am using gnome.
Regards from VJ
System Settings -> Printers
Good Luck!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory P. Ennis" PoMec@PoMec.Net To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 12:20 AM Subject: Re: How to configure CUPS
VJ wrote:
Hi, May be I am half brain-dead and I cannot figure out where to start. In FC2, I remember it used be called cupsd-conf or something line that. How do I configure cups in FC3? I am trying to use cups-pdf but cannot add a new printer until I can configure cups. I am using gnome. Regards from VJ
System Settings -> Printers
Good Luck!
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I had seen "System Settings -> Printing" but it is not related to cups at all.
VJ
Am Sa, den 27.11.2004 schrieb VJ um 1:25:
I had seen "System Settings -> Printing" but it is not related to cups at all.
VJ
You think so? Or did you already tried the tool? If I were you, I would use it :)
Alexander
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He he he. This proves I am more than half brain dead :)
I used it once and the moment it tried asking about the devices (printer, jetdirect etc. ) I thought I was doing something stupid. I tried and it worked.
My apologies to all whom I offended.
VJ
Hi
He he he. This proves I am more than half brain dead :)
not really. pdf files as virtual print devices isnt a concept that should directly exposed to users as such. it would probably be a good idea to rethink how it can be made more intuitive. if you guys have any bright ideas we can file a RFE
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Hi
He he he. This proves I am more than half brain dead :)
not really. pdf files as virtual print devices isnt a concept that should directly exposed to users as such. it would probably be a good idea to rethink how it can be made more intuitive. if you guys have any bright ideas we can file a RFE
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I do not see any reason to not to expose this functionality to users. Actually this is my requirement in my company. We have to save all final documents in PDF files before sending to clients.
I think it is better to put this functionality in, and let the user(administrator) decide whether normal users should get this functionality or not.
VJ
Hi
He he he. This proves I am more than half brain dead :)
not really. pdf files as virtual print devices isnt a concept that should directly exposed to users as such. it would probably be a good idea to rethink how it can be made more intuitive. if you guys have any bright ideas we can file a RFE
-- Regards, Rahul Sundaram
For me save as a postscript file and then "ps2pdf" always worked whenever I needed to do this. I use a postscript printer, though.
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 18:53, VJ wrote:
He he he. This proves I am more than half brain dead :)
I used it once and the moment it tried asking about the devices (printer, jetdirect etc. ) I thought I was doing something stupid. I tried and it worked.
Hmmm... guess I'm super-dense, but I can't see how to do this, even after the benefit of your mistake.
I start the app (System Settings-> Printing), select "New", and get to the point where I'm asked to select printer mfr. and model. I expected to find a "Print to PDF" item in the list, but there is no such item! Where did I fall off the boat?
Another thing that confuses me: When I select Preferences->Printing Manager, the list presented includes "Print to File (PDF)".
I'm sure this all makes perfect sense somehow, but I am struggling to see how this fits together... can someone enlighten me?
Thnx, Jay
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Moore" jaymo@mail.bokler.com To: "For users of Fedora Core releases" fedora-list@redhat.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 2:56 PM Subject: Re: How to configure CUPS
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 18:53, VJ wrote:
He he he. This proves I am more than half brain dead :)
I used it once and the moment it tried asking about the devices (printer, jetdirect etc. ) I thought I was doing something stupid. I tried and it worked.
Hmmm... guess I'm super-dense, but I can't see how to do this, even after the benefit of your mistake.
I start the app (System Settings-> Printing), select "New", and get to the point where I'm asked to select printer mfr. and model. I expected to find a "Print to PDF" item in the list, but there is no such item! Where did I fall off the boat?
Another thing that confuses me: When I select Preferences->Printing Manager, the list presented includes "Print to File (PDF)".
I'm sure this all makes perfect sense somehow, but I am struggling to see how this fits together... can someone enlighten me?
Thnx, Jay
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After a good night sleep, I think I can help now :) start your cups and cups-config-daemon services (and also enable then using ntsysv so that they come up after next reboot also). run lynx http://localhost:631 i.e. connect localhost on port 631 where cups provides web based administration. Look for manage printers and since there are no existing printers, you will have to add one. Adda printer calls cups-pdf and then when you move ahead by clicking on continue, you will be presented by list of printers, this is where you will find Virtual PDF printer thingy.
HTH.
VJ
On Sat, 2004-11-27 at 09:08, VJ wrote:
I start the app (System Settings-> Printing), select "New", and get to the point where I'm asked to select printer mfr. and model. I expected to find a "Print to PDF" item in the list, but there is no such item! Where did I fall off the boat?
Another thing that confuses me: When I select Preferences->Printing Manager, the list presented includes "Print to File (PDF)".
I'm sure this all makes perfect sense somehow, but I am struggling to see how this fits together... can someone enlighten me?
Thnx,
After a good night sleep, I think I can help now :) start your cups and cups-config-daemon services (and also enable then using ntsysv so that they come up after next reboot also). run lynx http://localhost:631 i.e. connect localhost on port 631 where cups provides web based administration. Look for manage printers and since there are no existing printers, you will have to add one. Adda printer calls cups-pdf and then when you move ahead by clicking on continue, you will be presented by list of printers, this is where you will find Virtual PDF printer thingy.
No - I can connect to the web-based admin tool on port 631, but clicking the "Add Printer" button doesn't get me to a list that includes any device with the word "PDF" in it.
Specifically, after clicking "Add Printer" the first "screen" I see contains three "fill-in-the-blank" inputs. Clicking "Continue" from there presents me with a drop-down select for "Device:". There is no PDF device in this drop-down list.
I'm using FC2, and currently running a KDE session - if that makes any difference.
Thnx, Jay
On Sat, Nov 27, 2004 at 09:39:02AM -0600, Jay Moore wrote:
On Sat, 2004-11-27 at 09:08, VJ wrote:
I start the app (System Settings-> Printing), select "New", and get to the point where I'm asked to select printer mfr. and model. I expected to find a "Print to PDF" item in the list, but there is no such item! Where did I fall off the boat?
Another thing that confuses me: When I select Preferences->Printing Manager, the list presented includes "Print to File (PDF)".
I'm sure this all makes perfect sense somehow, but I am struggling to see how this fits together... can someone enlighten me?
Thnx,
After a good night sleep, I think I can help now :) start your cups and cups-config-daemon services (and also enable then using ntsysv so that they come up after next reboot also). run lynx http://localhost:631 i.e. connect localhost on port 631 where cups provides web based administration. Look for manage printers and since there are no existing printers, you will have to add one. Adda printer calls cups-pdf and then when you move ahead by clicking on continue, you will be presented by list of printers, this is where you will find Virtual PDF printer thingy.
No - I can connect to the web-based admin tool on port 631, but clicking the "Add Printer" button doesn't get me to a list that includes any device with the word "PDF" in it.
Specifically, after clicking "Add Printer" the first "screen" I see contains three "fill-in-the-blank" inputs. Clicking "Continue" from there presents me with a drop-down select for "Device:". There is no PDF device in this drop-down list.
I'm using FC2, and currently running a KDE session - if that makes any difference.
Thnx, Jay
I am confused with all this advice. You choose the port, the manufacturer, etc for the printer. I you want to print a pdf file use xpdf, gv, ggv or acroread to display the pdf file and then print it.
akonstam@trinity.edu wrote:
I am confused with all this advice. You choose the port, the manufacturer, etc for the printer. I you want to print a pdf file use xpdf, gv, ggv or acroread to display the pdf file and then print it.
You're thinking about: existing PDF -> programs -> paper.
The rest of the thread is about: existing document *NOT* in PDF format (say, Abiword) -> print system -> PDF *instead* of paper.
"Printing" to PDF is close enough to printing to paper that it makes sense to use the same mechanisms to produce a PDF.
James.
On Sun, Nov 28, 2004 at 12:08:22AM +0000, James Wilkinson wrote:
akonstam@trinity.edu wrote:
I am confused with all this advice. You choose the port, the manufacturer, etc for the printer. I you want to print a pdf file use xpdf, gv, ggv or acroread to display the pdf file and then print it.
You're thinking about: existing PDF -> programs -> paper.
The rest of the thread is about: existing document *NOT* in PDF format (say, Abiword) -> print system -> PDF *instead* of paper.
"Printing" to PDF is close enough to printing to paper that it makes sense to use the same mechanisms to produce a PDF.
James.
I just what to be sure I am learning what I think I am learning. Is what is being referred to is the possibility that cups can take a document is some arbitrary format and produce a document in pdf format. Not print it just produce a pdf file. ======================================================================= THEGODDESSOFTHENETHASTWISTINGFINGERSANDHERVOICEISLIKEAJAVELININTHENIGHTDUDE ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200
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On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 08:07, akonstam@trinity.edu wrote:
You're thinking about: existing PDF -> programs -> paper.
The rest of the thread is about: existing document *NOT* in PDF format (say, Abiword) -> print system -> PDF *instead* of paper.
"Printing" to PDF is close enough to printing to paper that it makes sense to use the same mechanisms to produce a PDF.
I just what to be sure I am learning what I think I am learning. Is what is being referred to is the possibility that cups can take a document is some arbitrary format and produce a document in pdf format. Not print it just produce a pdf file.
Yes - once CUPS-PDF is installed you can do that. You may want to read the entire thread, but here's the link to the "essential ingredient":
Have you installed cups-pdf? It is found at http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vrbehr/cups-pdf/
Jay Moore wrote:
On Sun, 2004-11-28 at 08:07, akonstam@trinity.edu wrote:
You're thinking about: existing PDF -> programs -> paper.
The rest of the thread is about: existing document *NOT* in PDF format (say, Abiword) -> print system -> PDF *instead* of paper.
"Printing" to PDF is close enough to printing to paper that it makes sense to use the same mechanisms to produce a PDF.
I just what to be sure I am learning what I think I am learning. Is what is being referred to is the possibility that cups can take a document is some arbitrary format and produce a document in pdf format. Not print it just produce a pdf file.
Yes - once CUPS-PDF is installed you can do that. You may want to read the entire thread, but here's the link to the "essential ingredient":
Have you installed cups-pdf? It is found at http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vrbehr/cups-pdf/
Well, I just went there, downlaoded the 1.6 src.rpm, rebuilt it on my system for FC2. No problems. Installed it. restarted cups service. Added the "virtual" PDF printer (via http://localhost:631 interface) and printed a test page. It showed up in /root/job_120-Test-Page.pdf. It could've somehow asked me to name the file, but otherwise it works just fine. What was *not* documented (very well) was to choose the Postscript driver for the model name and then choose from the 2 generic postscript drivers (color, or B&W). This could be a stumbling block for a newbie....
On Saturday 27 November 2004 09:56, Jay Moore wrote:
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 18:53, VJ wrote:
He he he. This proves I am more than half brain dead :)
I used it once and the moment it tried asking about the devices (printer, jetdirect etc. ) I thought I was doing something stupid. I tried and it worked.
Hmmm... guess I'm super-dense, but I can't see how to do this, even after the benefit of your mistake.
I start the app (System Settings-> Printing), select "New", and get to the point where I'm asked to select printer mfr. and model. I expected to find a "Print to PDF" item in the list, but there is no such item! Where did I fall off the boat?
Another thing that confuses me: When I select Preferences->Printing Manager, the list presented includes "Print to File (PDF)".
I think the missing clue here is probably that cups must have a valid, working, printer setup first, before the file can be re-directed to a pdf. OTOH, I could be wrong. Either way, the system must know that the src file has to be massaged and format converted by ghostscript or one of its helpers.
I'm sure this all makes perfect sense somehow, but I am struggling to see how this fits together... can someone enlighten me?
Thnx, Jay
On Saturday 27 November 2004 08:08, VJ wrote:
Hi, May be I am half brain-dead and I cannot figure out where to start. In FC2, I remember it used be called cupsd-conf or something line that. How do I configure cups in FC3? I am trying to use cups-pdf but cannot add a new printer until I can configure cups. I am using gnome.
rpm -qac cups*
On Friday 26 November 2004 19:08, VJ wrote:
Hi, May be I am half brain-dead and I cannot figure out where to start. In FC2, I remember it used be called cupsd-conf or something line that. How do I configure cups in FC3? I am trying to use cups-pdf but cannot add a new printer until I can configure cups. I am using gnome.
Regards from VJ
The easiest way is to point your browser at localhost:631, log into cups and follow your nose.
On Friday 26 November 2004 08:13 pm, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
The easiest way is to point your browser at localhost:631, log into cups and follow your nose.
ehmm. did you actually say the word "easy". this is by no means userfriendly
Simple fix for the CLI-impaired: Create a bookmark. -- cmg
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
The easiest way is to point your browser at localhost:631, log into cups and follow your nose.
ehmm. did you actually say the word "easy". this is by no means userfriendly
Neither is a nice, simple tool that auto-comments this line:
application/octet-stream
in /etc/cups/mime.types so that I have to manually edit the file every time I make a configuration change or discover that Windows apps no longer print to cups via samba. (Whichever comes first. :-()