Speakers don't Mute when headphones are plugged in (Speakers & Headphones at the same time) :S

[Manuel Escudero]

Since I bought my computer and I installed Linux on it, I had this
problem...
Back in the day I never Found a REAL Solution and finally my solution (in
Fedora)
was installing "pavucontrol" to choose the Devices when I needed to Switch.

Via the Pulse Audio Volume Control I was able to Mute speakers or Headphones
at my will, even if I had both connected, this thing worked from F12 to F14
very well...

(The same problem is present in every distro I tried and sometimes it was
solved the
same way in other distros)

But Now, I'm in F15 And my magic workout doesn't work anymore... it doesn't
matter
wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't mute one or another and
my headphones
and speakers sound at the same time, Can you tell me How to Fix it?

The Sound card is a HDA INTEL with the Realtek ALC662 rev1 Chip, as I said
before,
I'm using Fedora 15 KDE (64 Bit version) and I'm running ALSA v 1.0.23

Any Help will be really nice

Thanks!

[JD]

On 05/25/11 22:49, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> Since I bought my computer and I installed Linux on it, I had this 
> problem...
> Back in the day I never Found a REAL Solution and finally my solution 
> (in Fedora)
> was installing "pavucontrol" to choose the Devices when I needed to 
> Switch.
>
> Via the Pulse Audio Volume Control I was able to Mute speakers or 
> Headphones
> at my will, even if I had both connected, this thing worked from F12 
> to F14 very well...
>
> (The same problem is present in every distro I tried and sometimes it 
> was solved the
> same way in other distros)
>
> But Now, I'm in F15 And my magic workout doesn't work anymore... it 
> doesn't matter
> wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't mute one or 
> another and my headphones
> and speakers sound at the same time, Can you tell me How to Fix it?
>
> The Sound card is a HDA INTEL with the Realtek ALC662 rev1 Chip, as I 
> said before,
> I'm using Fedora 15 KDE (64 Bit version) and I'm running ALSA v 1.0.23
>
> Any Help will be really nice
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- 
> <-Manuel Escudero->
> Linux User #509052
> @GWave: [e-mail] 
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If you run
lsmod | grep snd
what do you get?

[Manuel Escudero]

I get

snd_hda_codec_realtek   325262  1
snd_hda_intel          23694  2
snd_usb_audio          98871  1
snd_hda_codec          80822  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep               6368  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_seq                52438  0
snd_usbmidi_lib        18066  1 snd_usb_audio
snd_pcm                78484  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec
snd_rawmidi            20308  1 snd_usbmidi_lib
snd_seq_device          6001  2 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer              19593  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          7431  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd                    62686  17
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_timer
soundcore               6299  1 snd

2011/5/26, JD :
> On 05/25/11 22:49, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> > Since I bought my computer and I installed Linux on it, I had this
> > problem...
> > Back in the day I never Found a REAL Solution and finally my solution
> > (in Fedora)
> > was installing "pavucontrol" to choose the Devices when I needed to
> > Switch.
> >
> > Via the Pulse Audio Volume Control I was able to Mute speakers or
> > Headphones
> > at my will, even if I had both connected, this thing worked from F12
> > to F14 very well...
> >
> > (The same problem is present in every distro I tried and sometimes it
> > was solved the
> > same way in other distros)
> >
> > But Now, I'm in F15 And my magic workout doesn't work anymore... it
> > doesn't matter
> > wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't mute one or
> > another and my headphones
> > and speakers sound at the same time, Can you tell me How to Fix it?
> >
> > The Sound card is a HDA INTEL with the Realtek ALC662 rev1 Chip, as I
> > said before,
> > I'm using Fedora 15 KDE (64 Bit version) and I'm running ALSA v 1.0.23
> >
> > Any Help will be really nice
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > <-Manuel Escudero->
> > Linux User #509052
> > @GWave: [e-mail] 
> > @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog)
> > PGP/GnuPG: E2B4 31CE F2BF 1944 8664  3E22 88C8 DFC9 4D7C 1B35
>
> If you run
> lsmod | grep snd
> what do you get?
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[Tim]

On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 00:49 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> it doesn't matter wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't
> mute one or another and my headphones and speakers sound at the same
> time,

I recall, on one sound card, going through the preference available in
the volume controls, and finding a "detect headphones" switch.  When
enabled, that sound card would notice when headphones were plugged in.

That was on a (much) older Fedora release, but it's probably still
something to look for.

[Manuel Escudero]

2011/5/26 Tim
> On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 00:49 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> > it doesn't matter wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't
> > mute one or another and my headphones and speakers sound at the same
> > time,
>
> I recall, on one sound card, going through the preference available in
> the volume controls, and finding a "detect headphones" switch.  When
> enabled, that sound card would notice when headphones were plugged in.
>
> That was on a (much) older Fedora release, but it's probably still
> something to look for.
>
> --
> [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
>
> Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> read messages from the public lists.
>
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@Tim: Yep, Older releases had more configuration tools
and options about sound, now it's kinda "universal" stuff,
it has been like that since F12 I believe... in F11 we still had
the "system-sound-configuration" tool or something like that,
not anymore in F12,

Also the wierd integration of ALSA + Pulseaudio makes the
sound "harder to configure in an expert mode" because we don't
have the right files in the right folders, we don't even have "alsaconf"!
(And don't get me wrong here, The "universal alsa+pulseaudio mashup"
works for almost every computer I tried, but not in mine and it hasn't
over the months), the thing is, in F14 I was able stop my problem with
a simple click in "Pavucontrol" and now I can't...

Look, I don't want the 5.1 Ch HD Audio the computer can deliver,
I'm happy with the only two I'm getting But please, please! I need separate
headphones and speakers :)

Yesterday I was asking on IRC at #fedora and they only told me to "Google
it"
and "File a Bug", I've been googling it for almost 2 years and I never got
a better solution than the pavucontrol one, but it doesn't work anymore...

Any Suggestions? Thank You.

[Manuel Escudero]

2011/5/26 Manuel Escudero
> 2011/5/26 Tim
> > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 00:49 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> > > it doesn't matter wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't
> > > mute one or another and my headphones and speakers sound at the same
> > > time,
> >
> > I recall, on one sound card, going through the preference available in
> > the volume controls, and finding a "detect headphones" switch.  When
> > enabled, that sound card would notice when headphones were plugged in.
> >
> > That was on a (much) older Fedora release, but it's probably still
> > something to look for.
> >
> > --
> > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
> >
> > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> > read messages from the public lists.
> >
> > --
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> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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>
> @Tim: Yep, Older releases had more configuration tools
> and options about sound, now it's kinda "universal" stuff,
> it has been like that since F12 I believe... in F11 we still had
> the "system-sound-configuration" tool or something like that,
> not anymore in F12,
>
> Also the wierd integration of ALSA + Pulseaudio makes the
> sound "harder to configure in an expert mode" because we don't
> have the right files in the right folders, we don't even have "alsaconf"!
> (And don't get me wrong here, The "universal alsa+pulseaudio mashup"
> works for almost every computer I tried, but not in mine and it hasn't
> over the months), the thing is, in F14 I was able stop my problem with
> a simple click in "Pavucontrol" and now I can't...
>
> Look, I don't want the 5.1 Ch HD Audio the computer can deliver,
> I'm happy with the only two I'm getting But please, please! I need separate
> headphones and speakers :)
>
> Yesterday I was asking on IRC at #fedora and they only told me to "Google
> it"
> and "File a Bug", I've been googling it for almost 2 years and I never got
> a better solution than the pavucontrol one, but it doesn't work anymore...
>
> Any Suggestions? Thank You.
>
> --
> <-Manuel Escudero->
> Linux User #509052
> @GWave: [e-mail]
> @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog)
> PGP/GnuPG: E2B4 31CE F2BF 1944 8664  3E22 88C8 DFC9 4D7C 1B35

No one? well, I filed a Bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708557

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708557Hope someone can help
me, thanks!

[Manuel Escudero]

2011/5/27 Manuel Escudero
> 2011/5/26 Manuel Escudero
> > 2011/5/26 Tim
> > > On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 00:49 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
> > > > it doesn't matter wich device I choose as output, the PC simple don't
> > > > mute one or another and my headphones and speakers sound at the same
> > > > time,
> > >
> > > I recall, on one sound card, going through the preference available in
> > > the volume controls, and finding a "detect headphones" switch.  When
> > > enabled, that sound card would notice when headphones were plugged in.
> > >
> > > That was on a (much) older Fedora release, but it's probably still
> > > something to look for.
> > >
> > > --
> > > [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r
> > > 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686
> > >
> > > Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.  I
> > > read messages from the public lists.
> > >
> > > --
> > > users mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options:
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users
> > > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> >
> > @Tim: Yep, Older releases had more configuration tools
> > and options about sound, now it's kinda "universal" stuff,
> > it has been like that since F12 I believe... in F11 we still had
> > the "system-sound-configuration" tool or something like that,
> > not anymore in F12,
> >
> > Also the wierd integration of ALSA + Pulseaudio makes the
> > sound "harder to configure in an expert mode" because we don't
> > have the right files in the right folders, we don't even have "alsaconf"!
> > (And don't get me wrong here, The "universal alsa+pulseaudio mashup"
> > works for almost every computer I tried, but not in mine and it hasn't
> > over the months), the thing is, in F14 I was able stop my problem with
> > a simple click in "Pavucontrol" and now I can't...
> >
> > Look, I don't want the 5.1 Ch HD Audio the computer can deliver,
> > I'm happy with the only two I'm getting But please, please! I need
> > separate
> > headphones and speakers :)
> >
> > Yesterday I was asking on IRC at #fedora and they only told me to "Google
> > it"
> > and "File a Bug", I've been googling it for almost 2 years and I never got
> > a better solution than the pavucontrol one, but it doesn't work anymore...
> >
> > Any Suggestions? Thank You.
> >
> > --
> > <-Manuel Escudero->
> > Linux User #509052
> > @GWave: [e-mail]
> > @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog)
> > PGP/GnuPG: E2B4 31CE F2BF 1944 8664  3E22 88C8 DFC9 4D7C 1B35
>
> No one? well, I filed a Bug:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708557
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=708557Hope someone can help
> me, thanks!
>
> --
> <-Manuel Escudero->
> Linux User #509052
> @GWave: [e-mail]
> @Blogger: http://www.blogxenode.tk/ (Xenode Systems Blog)
> PGP/GnuPG: E2B4 31CE F2BF 1944 8664  3E22 88C8 DFC9 4D7C 1B35

@Everyone: I'm happy to say I SOLVED THE PROBLEM!! (sadly no one had the
solution, I had to found it all by myself)

The solution was to find my chip on this list:

http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt

and try one by one the different modules that where available for my chip,
(Actually the "stack's correct one" didn't work, so I had to try them
all;)To try & solve I had to create this file:
"/etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf" and then I had to find this other file:
"/etc/modprobe.d/dist-alsa.conf", then I started adding the classic "options
snd-hda-intel model=xxxxx" in those two files, restarting for each change of
model until my headphones/speakers problem got solved. at the end, Finally
it worked with one model (Not the REAL MODEL/brand of the device or even PC,
but it worked) and now when I plug headphones, the speakers mute, don't even
need to use pavucontrol.

Thanks!

[Mike Williams]

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Manuel Escudero  wrote:
> > @Everyone: I'm happy to say I SOLVED THE PROBLEM!! (sadly no one had the
>
> solution, I had to found it all by myself)
>
> The solution was to find my chip on this list:
>
> http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt
>
> and try one by one the different modules that where available for my chip,
> (Actually the "stack's correct one" didn't work, so I had to try them
> all;)To try & solve I had to create this file:
> "/etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf" and then I had to find this other file:
> "/etc/modprobe.d/dist-alsa.conf", then I started adding the classic "options
> snd-hda-intel model=xxxxx" in those two files, restarting for each change of
> model until my headphones/speakers problem got solved. at the end, Finally
> it worked with one model (Not the REAL MODEL/brand of the device or even PC,
> but it worked) and now when I plug headphones, the speakers mute, don't even
> need to use pavucontrol.
>
> Thanks!

Manuel,

Hi there.  Thank you for posting the solution that you found.  Hopefully it
will help someone else.

Nice detective work.

Cheers,

Mike