problem with sound on my father's computer

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

We are having problems with sounmd on my father's computer.  I see that it
looks like a whole bunch of things are using the same memory address.  Here
are the items I get when using lspci:
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface
Bridge (rev 02)      
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
Controller (rev 02)         
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev
02)                 
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller
(rev 02)               
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Contro
ller (rev 02)

What can I do about this?

Scott

[stan]

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:19:22 -0500
"Scott Berry"  wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> We are having problems with sounmd on my father's computer.  I see
> that it looks like a whole bunch of things are using the same memory
> address.  Here are the items I get when using lspci:
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> Interface Bridge (rev 02)      
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
> Controller (rev 02)         
> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA
> Controller (rev 02)                 
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> Controller (rev 02)               
> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Contro
> ller (rev 02)
>
> What can I do about this?
>
> Scott

I found out today again that many devices can share the same interrupt
under linux.  So I don't think this is your problem.

run aplay -lLv to see if there are any sound cards recognized and if
alsa has defined any aliases.

Then run 
aplay -D hw:0,0 some.wav
if there is at least one sound card.

If this works, you have a configuration/cabling issue.  Check that the
sound card you played is the one with speakers.  Then use an
application like xmms to change the sound to the appropriate driver and
play a song.

If you have no sound cards, it is possible that the sound is not
supported by alsa or it is turned off in the bios.

[Scott Berry]

Well there's another problem that goes along with this.  If the sound card
is on within the Bios and my father boots his computer up to Gnome when he
logs in the icons do not appear.  What might be causing this?  I was getting
a message about too many things being on a serial prot and that 8250 worked
too hard.  I pulled out one of the offending items a Windows modem.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
On Behalf Of stan
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:52 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: problem with sound on my father's computer

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:19:22 -0500
"Scott Berry"  wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> We are having problems with sounmd on my father's computer.  I see
> that it looks like a whole bunch of things are using the same memory
> address.  Here are the items I get when using lspci:
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> Interface Bridge (rev 02)      
> 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
> Controller (rev 02)         
> 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA
> Controller (rev 02)                 
> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> Controller (rev 02)               
> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Contro
> ller (rev 02)
>
> What can I do about this?
>
> Scott

I found out today again that many devices can share the same interrupt
under linux.  So I don't think this is your problem.

run aplay -lLv to see if there are any sound cards recognized and if
alsa has defined any aliases.

Then run 
aplay -D hw:0,0 some.wav
if there is at least one sound card.

If this works, you have a configuration/cabling issue.  Check that the
sound card you played is the one with speakers.  Then use an
application like xmms to change the sound to the appropriate driver and
play a song.

If you have no sound cards, it is possible that the sound is not
supported by alsa or it is turned off in the bios.

[Jay Goodman]

Ah.  I think there is a little gem of a bug in esd or alsa causing a these
gnome startup freezes with certain soundcards.

I've got a nvidia MPC51 and I've got the problem too. I suspect many
others have it.  It didn't effect me in FC6.

Here's a workaround for the time being.

When gnome 'locks' at startup
1) press CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to a console.
2) log into the console and kill the esound server "kill $(pidof esd)"
3) switch back to X/gnome with CTRL-ALT-F7
4) Startup should be continuing as normal
5) goto System->Preferences->Hardware->Sound
6) Choose the "sounds" tab and turn off "enable software sound mixing(ESD)"

This should get you going without gnome sounds for the time being until
there is a fix or a workaround.  I'm looking for a work around and I'll
post back if I can find one.
> Well there's another problem that goes along with this.  If the sound card
> is on within the Bios and my father boots his computer up to Gnome when he
> logs in the icons do not appear.  What might be causing this?  I was
> getting
> a message about too many things being on a serial prot and that 8250
> worked
> too hard.  I pulled out one of the offending items a Windows modem.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]
> On Behalf Of stan
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:52 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: problem with sound on my father's computer
>
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:19:22 -0500
> "Scott Berry"  wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > We are having problems with sounmd on my father's computer.  I see
> > that it looks like a whole bunch of things are using the same memory
> > address.  Here are the items I get when using lspci:
> > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> > Interface Bridge (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> > (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Contro
> > ller (rev 02)
> >
> > What can I do about this?
> >
> > Scott
>
> I found out today again that many devices can share the same interrupt
> under linux.  So I don't think this is your problem.
>
> run aplay -lLv to see if there are any sound cards recognized and if
> alsa has defined any aliases.
>
> Then run
> aplay -D hw:0,0 some.wav
> if there is at least one sound card.
>
> If this works, you have a configuration/cabling issue.  Check that the
> sound card you played is the one with speakers.  Then use an
> application like xmms to change the sound to the appropriate driver and
> play a song.
>
> If you have no sound cards, it is possible that the sound is not
> supported by alsa or it is turned off in the bios.
>
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[Scott Berry]

Hi Jay,

Have you filed something at bugzilla on this?  If not I could start a bug
report.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
On Behalf Of Jay Goodman
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:57 PM
To: For users of Fedora
Subject: RE: problem with sound on my father's computer

Ah.  I think there is a little gem of a bug in esd or alsa causing a these
gnome startup freezes with certain soundcards.

I've got a nvidia MPC51 and I've got the problem too. I suspect many
others have it.  It didn't effect me in FC6.

Here's a workaround for the time being.

When gnome 'locks' at startup
1) press CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to a console.
2) log into the console and kill the esound server "kill $(pidof esd)"
3) switch back to X/gnome with CTRL-ALT-F7
4) Startup should be continuing as normal
5) goto System->Preferences->Hardware->Sound
6) Choose the "sounds" tab and turn off "enable software sound mixing(ESD)"

This should get you going without gnome sounds for the time being until
there is a fix or a workaround.  I'm looking for a work around and I'll
post back if I can find one.
> Well there's another problem that goes along with this.  If the sound card
> is on within the Bios and my father boots his computer up to Gnome when he
> logs in the icons do not appear.  What might be causing this?  I was
> getting
> a message about too many things being on a serial prot and that 8250
> worked
> too hard.  I pulled out one of the offending items a Windows modem.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]]
> On Behalf Of stan
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:52 PM
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: problem with sound on my father's computer
>
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:19:22 -0500
> "Scott Berry"  wrote:
> > Hello there,
> >
> > We are having problems with sounmd on my father's computer.  I see
> > that it looks like a whole bunch of things are using the same memory
> > address.  Here are the items I get when using lspci:
> > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> > Interface Bridge (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> > Controller (rev 02)
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> > (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Contro
> > ller (rev 02)
> >
> > What can I do about this?
> >
> > Scott
>
> I found out today again that many devices can share the same interrupt
> under linux.  So I don't think this is your problem.
>
> run aplay -lLv to see if there are any sound cards recognized and if
> alsa has defined any aliases.
>
> Then run
> aplay -D hw:0,0 some.wav
> if there is at least one sound card.
>
> If this works, you have a configuration/cabling issue.  Check that the
> sound card you played is the one with speakers.  Then use an
> application like xmms to change the sound to the appropriate driver and
> play a song.
>
> If you have no sound cards, it is possible that the sound is not
> supported by alsa or it is turned off in the bios.
>
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[Jay Goodman]

There are upstream bugs in esd that may fix this.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=242059
is a fedora bug that i commented on and will add to

I have a simple work around that works on my laptop

edit /etc/esd.conf
change
default_options=
to
default_options=-nobeeps -unix -as 2
> Ah.  I think there is a little gem of a bug in esd or alsa causing a these
> gnome startup freezes with certain soundcards.
>
> I've got a nvidia MPC51 and I've got the problem too. I suspect many
> others have it.  It didn't effect me in FC6.
>
> Here's a workaround for the time being.
>
> When gnome 'locks' at startup
> press CTRL-ALT-F1 to get to a console.
> log into the console and kill the esound server "kill $(pidof esd)"
> switch back to X/gnome with CTRL-ALT-F7
> Startup should be continuing as normal
> goto System->Preferences->Hardware->Sound
> Choose the "sounds" tab and turn off "enable software sound
>
> mixing(ESD)"
>
> This should get you going without gnome sounds for the time being until
> there is a fix or a workaround.  I'm looking for a work around and I'll
> post back if I can find one.
> > Well there's another problem that goes along with this.  If the sound
> > card
> > is on within the Bios and my father boots his computer up to Gnome when
> > he
> > logs in the icons do not appear.  What might be causing this?  I was
> > getting
> > a message about too many things being on a serial prot and that 8250
> > worked
> > too hard.  I pulled out one of the offending items a Windows modem.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
> > [mailto:[e-mail]]
> > On Behalf Of stan
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 7:52 PM
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: problem with sound on my father's computer
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 19:19:22 -0500
> > "Scott Berry"  wrote:
> > > Hello there,
> > >
> > > We are having problems with sounmd on my father's computer.  I see
> > > that it looks like a whole bunch of things are using the same memory
> > > address.  Here are the items I get when using lspci:
> > > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
> > > Interface Bridge (rev 02)
> > > 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE
> > > Controller (rev 02)
> > > 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA
> > > Controller (rev 02)
> > > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus
> > > Controller (rev 02)
> > > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
> > > (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Contro
> > > ller (rev 02)
> > >
> > > What can I do about this?
> > >
> > > Scott
> >
> > I found out today again that many devices can share the same interrupt
> > under linux.  So I don't think this is your problem.
> >
> > run aplay -lLv to see if there are any sound cards recognized and if
> > alsa has defined any aliases.
> >
> > Then run
> > aplay -D hw:0,0 some.wav
> > if there is at least one sound card.
> >
> > If this works, you have a configuration/cabling issue.  Check that the
> > sound card you played is the one with speakers.  Then use an
> > application like xmms to change the sound to the appropriate driver and
> > play a song.
> >
> > If you have no sound cards, it is possible that the sound is not
> > supported by alsa or it is turned off in the bios.
> >
> > --
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> > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 6/1/2007
> > 11:22 AM
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