OT: managed switch recommendations

[Frederic Muller]

Hi!

Was looking for something safe and reliable, 8 or 16 ports, managed. I 
don't really need PoE. I've read really bad review on Netgear on Amazon. 
I am also looking for 'average' pricing, not the cheapest and not the 
most expensive ones. Also don't want to have to register online for some 
"features" to work.

  Was wondering what you guys were using in general.

Thank you.

Fred

[Richard Shaw]

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 5:33 AM Frederic Muller <fred(a)cm17.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi!
>
>  Was looking for something safe and reliable, 8 or 16 ports, managed. I
>  don't really need PoE. I've read really bad review on Netgear on Amazon.
>  I am also looking for 'average' pricing, not the cheapest and not the
>  most expensive ones. Also don't want to have to register online for some
>  "features" to work.
>  
I use Ubiquiti in my home. For a router I use a Unifi Security Gateway
(USG)[1] but I'd like to upgrade to the Dream Machine Pro SE when
available. Then for the switch a non-PoE 24 port rack mount managed switch
with two UAP-AC Lites (Wifi 5, dual band)[2]. If I were to setup a brand
new system I would use the new WiFi 6 version[3].

Pretty happy with it overall. I run the Unifi controller software on a
CentOS Steam box in the closet since I package it for the RPM Fusion
non-free repository, however, when I upgrade the whole Dream Machine
series[4] have it built in.

Thanks,
Richard

[1] https://www.ui.com/unifi-routing/usg/
[2] https://www.ui.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-lite/
[3] https://www.ui.com/wi-fi
[4] https://www.ui.com/consoles

[Frederic Muller]

On 10/18/21 18:54, Richard Shaw wrote:
>  On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 5:33 AM Frederic Muller <fred(a)cm17.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
>      Hi!
>
>      Was looking for something safe and reliable, 8 or 16 ports,
>      managed. I
>      don't really need PoE. I've read really bad review on Netgear on
>      Amazon.
>      I am also looking for 'average' pricing, not the cheapest and not the
>      most expensive ones. Also don't want to have to register online
>      for some
>      "features" to work.
>
>
>  I use Ubiquiti in my home. For a router I use a Unifi Security Gateway 
>  (USG)[1] but I'd like to upgrade to the Dream Machine Pro SE when 
>  available. Then for the switch a non-PoE 24 port rack mount managed 
>  switch with two UAP-AC Lites (Wifi 5, dual band)[2]. If I were to 
>  setup a brand new system I would use the new WiFi 6 version[3].
>
>  Pretty happy with it overall. I run the Unifi controller software on a 
>  CentOS Steam box in the closet since I package it for the RPM Fusion 
>  non-free repository, however, when I upgrade the whole Dream Machine 
>  series[4] have it built in.
>
>  Thanks,
>  Richard
>  
Interesting answer. I have 1 Ubiquity AP (the UAP PRO IIRC) and didn't 
find it great to set up with Linux. Had to install the mobile app to do 
so. However now it seems to be working flawlessly ;-). At the same time 
I have an ASUS RT-AC88U router which seems to have a stronger wifi 
signal (I thought Unify AP were the best - signal is one thing, how many 
connected clients it can handle is another). And it's really about "it 
seems" as I didn't test anything at all.

I've heard and watched videos about those Ubiquity Dream machines 
(almost recommended one to a friend) and particularly this one 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY-24alrvCw which made me feel like it 
was not for me (could be really more than ok for my friend though). The 
downsides seem to be:

- Forced Registration
- No Official Wireguard Support
- No Outbound VPN Policy Routing
- No Controls on WAN failover
- No Multiple IP's on USG line

I mean Cisco has a 8 ports managed switch for $80 on Amazon. How good is 
that?  In comparison (I'm not trying to make fun of Amazon....) they 
have a TP-Link "easy smart managed" at $30. In the specification they 
write "wireless type: 802.11b, 802.11"...

So it is hard from my perspective to find the "right" product as 
specifications and marketing always get in the way.

Thank you.

Fred

[Dave Ulrick]

On 10/18/21 06:54, Richard Shaw wrote:
>  On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 5:33 AM Frederic Muller <fred(a)cm17.com&gt;
> wrote:
>
>      Hi!
>
>      Was looking for something safe and reliable, 8 or 16 ports,
>      managed. I
>      don't really need PoE. I've read really bad review on Netgear on
>      Amazon.
>      I am also looking for 'average' pricing, not the cheapest and not the
>      most expensive ones. Also don't want to have to register online
>      for some
>      "features" to work.
>
>
>  I use Ubiquiti in my home. For a router I use a Unifi Security Gateway 
>  (USG)[1] but I'd like to upgrade to the Dream Machine Pro SE when 
>  available. Then for the switch a non-PoE 24 port rack mount managed 
>  switch with two UAP-AC Lites (Wifi 5, dual band)[2]. If I were to 
>  setup a brand new system I would use the new WiFi 6 version[3].
>
>  Pretty happy with it overall. I run the Unifi controller software on a 
>  CentOS Steam box in the closet since I package it for the RPM Fusion 
>  non-free repository, however, when I upgrade the whole Dream Machine 
>  series[4] have it built in.
>  
I use Ubiquiti EdgeSwitches for my home LAN: one 18X and several 10X 
units. They are stable and silent. I configure them using the switch's 
built-in Web GUI. I use their VLAN, SFP (fiber optic), and STP features. 
I think they're a very good value for the money. Be advised that tech 
support is provided via online Web forums; you're more likely to be 
helped by fellow customers than by a Ubiquiti employee.

Dave

[Tim]

On Mon, 2021-10-18 at 09:04 -0500, Dave Ulrick wrote:
>  Be advised that tech support is provided via online Web forums;
>  you're more likely to be helped by fellow customers than by a
>  Ubiquiti employee. 
That sort of thing concerns me if you were wanting to resolve any
security-related issues, you don't want to discuss them in a public
forum.

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[Gordon Messmer]

On 10/18/21 03:33, Frederic Muller wrote:
>  Was looking for something safe and reliable, 8 or 16 ports, managed

For SOHO installations, I like HPE OfficeConnect 1820 switches (J9979A).