Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020?
If a user were to take present state of Rawhide, but not update risky packages, would there be any benefit to that ? Meaning to manually update, skipping some packages.
Are some Desktop Environments in Fedora more stable ?
What are some packages that are the most risky to update ? systemd ? mesa ? kernel ?
David Locklear
On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 03:51:02PM -0600, David wrote:
Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020?
Based on crash reports, both seem like pretty solid releases. I don't think one is particularly riskier than the other.
If a user were to take present state of Rawhide, but not update risky packages, would there be any benefit to that ? Meaning to manually update, skipping some packages.
Benefit would be newer software, but, yeah, definitely more risk here.
Are some Desktop Environments in Fedora more stable ?
GNOME is the desktop environment that gets the most direct work in Fedora, but the communities around our other desktop environments put in great work as well. I think this is mostly a matter of personal preference.
What are some packages that are the most risky to update ? systemd ? mesa ? kernel ?
Well, what risk are you worried about? It's certainly the case that a kernel update has the most chance of something catastrophic (hardware support issue, or even machine failing to boot), but on the other hand, since so many people look at the Linux kernel and since that project has a strict policy against user-breaking changes, the _frequency_ of such events is really low. On the other hand, the consequences of updating something like Inkscape are low in terms of potential impact -- but it's possibly an update might change a feature or something that the developers felt to be minor but is crucial to you.
On 11/8/20 3:43 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Sun, Nov 08, 2020 at 03:51:02PM -0600, David wrote:
Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020?
Based on crash reports, both seem like pretty solid releases. I don't think one is particularly riskier than the other.
There's always a big lump of problems when a new version comes out, because the testers can't test everything, which is why I'm not an early adopter. If you look at the number of bugs reported since F 33 came out, you might think it's not ready for Prime Time yet, but that's just the early adopter bugs getting cleaned out. If most of them don't get swatted by the end of the year, then it will be time to get concerned.
Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020?
While a release is not EOL it tends to stay fairly well synchronized to the latest release. For example, 33 and 32 are running the same basic kernel.
If a user were to take present state of Rawhide, but not update risky packages, would there be any benefit to that ? Meaning to manually update, skipping some packages.
If your care-about is reliability I would leave Rawhide alone. Selective updating often causes issues as old packages can end up blocking updates that you want eventually.
Are some Desktop Environments in Fedora more stable ?
That's an emotive question to be sure. I find Xfce the most solid, especially on Rawhide where GNOME 3rd party extensions regularly break during development releases of GNOME (which Rawhide gets).
What are some packages that are the most risky to update ? systemd ? mesa ? kernel ?
I find release versions tend to be pretty good overall. Your mileage may vary. I would update everything always. Unless you want to fiddle and file bug reports I would stay clear of Rawhide, I'm having plenty of issues with it at the moment.
Ian
I'm not seeing any problems with F32-Mate or F33-Mate. Not sure if it was an update (unlikely) or something I did (very likely) to trash my Rawhide-Mate install, but I just reinstalled the latest nightly, and so far, so good.
Take a look here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1895569
It wasn't just you.
I'm not seeing any problems with F32-Mate or F33-Mate. Not sure if it was an update (unlikely) or something I did (very likely) to trash my Rawhide-Mate install, but I just reinstalled the latest nightly, and so far, so good.
Is Fedora 32 more stable than 33 or vice versa, as on November, 2020?
The older, the more tested, the better patched, the more stable
If a user were to take present state of Rawhide, but not update risky packages, would there be any benefit to that ? Meaning to manually update, skipping some packages.
That doesn't exist. If you are on Rawhide you must constantly update. See the target audience of Rawhide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Rawhide#Audience
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