how to update panda virus defination and how i setup panda so it run in a days twice automatically
hi to all how can i update panda virus defination file
also i want that my panda antivirus scan the pc twice in day
so how can configure it like this
also give me the useful web so i forwarde it
On Tuesday, Jul 11th 2006 at 12:33 +0530, quoth yogesh@banasdairy.coop:
=>hi to all =>how can i update panda virus defination file => => =>also i want that my panda antivirus scan the pc twice in day => =>so how can configure it like this => =>also give me the useful web so i forwarde it
Hi Yogi. This would be an excellent time for you to take a step back and read this essay. If you ask a question and don't get an answer, then it's likely you're not doing it right. Please read this and start again.
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
On 7/11/06, Steven W. Orr steveo@syslang.net wrote:
Hi Yogi. This would be an excellent time for you to take a step back and read this essay. http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
According to my opinion Fedora Core should have a list for newbies and an other list for the folk sending questions here. I am very keen on Linux (it's one of my recent hobbies), but while scanning through the letters only some 5% are on the level I can understand while reading through. So please, is there somewhere a post list for Fedora Newbies as for ex. Mandriva has?
As an answer to Yogesh, I have downloaded Panda Antivirus for Linux. I succeeded in installing it after some trouble. Now I can start it in the terminal (command line) as root (write "su" and then the password first) by writing "pavcl / -aut" or "-heu" and it seems to do the scanning. In my case it seemed to find nothing bad :)
But how to update the virus definitions? I looked at http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux/linux.asp but did not find anything about updating the definitions. Previously there was only a beta version of the program and now it's a new program, so let's hope new virus definitions appear, when new viruses enter to the Linux-world, that happens much slower than in Windows. Later let's took an other look at http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux/linux.asp. Or what?
On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 09:23 +0300, Heikki Pesonen wrote:
According to my opinion Fedora Core should have a list for newbies and an other list for the folk sending questions here. I am very keen on Linux (it's one of my recent hobbies), but while scanning through the letters only some 5% are on the level I can understand while reading through. So please, is there somewhere a post list for Fedora Newbies as for ex. Mandriva has?
I haven't seen anything like that, but then I've not been looking for one. The trouble with helping beginners is where to start. You could presume nothing, or something, about their experience. Linux compounds this more by people having to start from scratch. i.e. With new Windows victims they don't usually have to figure out how to install the OS, they've (usually) had more of the hard work done for them.
My first foray into Linux was from one of those small books about the size of the Readers Digest with install discs, that are commonly sold in newsagents. I'd recommend one of them as a good starting point. The first one or two that I read had quite a few "getting started" guides with useful details that questions about similar things would usually get you a RTFM command response on a mailing list or newsgroup.
Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2006-08-13 at 09:23 +0300, Heikki Pesonen wrote:
According to my opinion Fedora Core should have a list for newbies and an other list for the folk sending questions here. I am very keen on Linux (it's one of my recent hobbies), but while scanning through the letters only some 5% are on the level I can understand while reading through. So please, is there somewhere a post list for Fedora Newbies as for ex. Mandriva has?
I haven't seen anything like that, but then I've not been looking for one. The trouble with helping beginners is where to start. You could presume nothing, or something, about their experience. Linux compounds this more by people having to start from scratch. i.e. With new Windows victims they don't usually have to figure out how to install the OS, they've (usually) had more of the hard work done for them.
My first foray into Linux was from one of those small books about the size of the Readers Digest with install discs, that are commonly sold in newsagents. I'd recommend one of them as a good starting point. The first one or two that I read had quite a few "getting started" guides with useful details that questions about similar things would usually get you a RTFM command response on a mailing list or newsgroup.
Another issue with having a list especially for newbies is that the list is going to be populated almost entirely by newbies (obviously). Which raises the issue: who will be answering the questions?
I'm firmly of the opinion that having a "comprehensive" list is actually better for newbies as they're likely to get better quality answers, and will learn other things by reading the list in general, even if they don't understand most of it at first.
Paul.
On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 12:45 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
Another issue with having a list especially for newbies is that the list is going to be populated almost entirely by newbies (obviously). Which raises the issue: who will be answering the questions?
That's not as much of a problem as you think it might be. This approach has already been tried by the Mandrake (aka Mandriva now) team and it worked just fine. What happened was that there were two lists (not including the development lists), expert and newbie. Alot of the newbies helped each other with questions that had already been solved, plus there was much use of the archives, and in addition to that of course alot of the experts either stayed on newbie or crossposted to both newbie and expert. It works.
I'm firmly of the opinion that having a "comprehensive" list is actually better for newbies as they're likely to get better quality answers, and will learn other things by reading the list in general, even if they don't understand most of it at first.
Paul.
LX
Originally Yogesh presented some questions about Panda Antivirus for Linux. Steven W. Orr answered him by recommending him to read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html.
Because I have also installed Panda Antivirus for Linux I answered Yogesh as well as I could. These my answers have not appeared on this list. Why?
In the same letter I also presented the topic of a list for newbies cited.
On 8/14/06, Lyvim Xaphir knightmerc@yahoo.com wrote:
On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 12:45 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
Another issue with having a list especially for newbies is that the list is going to be populated almost entirely by newbies (obviously). Which raises the issue: who will be answering the questions?
That's not as much of a problem as you think it might be. This approach has already been tried by the Mandrake (aka Mandriva now) team and it worked just fine.
Before Fedora Core I had Mandriva in my computer and I also was a member of Mandriva's newbie-list. It worked fine.
On Monday 14 August 2006 12:00, Heikki Pesonen wrote:
Because I have also installed Panda Antivirus for Linux I answered Yogesh as well as I could. These my answers have not appeared on this list. Why?
Maybe you sent the answers to the OP and not the list by mistake. I did that the other day. I thought I had posted to the list when actually I responded to his mail box by mistake.
On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 08:37 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 12:45 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
Another issue with having a list especially for newbies is that the list is going to be populated almost entirely by newbies (obviously). Which raises the issue: who will be answering the questions?
That's not as much of a problem as you think it might be. This approach has already been tried by the Mandrake (aka Mandriva now) team and it worked just fine. What happened was that there were two lists (not including the development lists), expert and newbie. Alot of the newbies helped each other with questions that had already been solved, plus there was much use of the archives, and in addition to that of course alot of the experts either stayed on newbie or crossposted to both newbie and expert. It works.
I'm firmly of the opinion that having a "comprehensive" list is actually better for newbies as they're likely to get better quality answers, and will learn other things by reading the list in general, even if they don't understand most of it at first.
There is another perspective to consider, Fedora Core is far more cutting edge and less suitable as a more static distribution for a complete newbie at times. Check out my Linux number below, I still sit here with my mouth agape wondering just what the hell someone just said. It's a struggle at times.
I've never been formally educated in IT, but I have sat and learned from the tech-powerhouses that it is my honor and rare privilege to pick up information as they put forth in here, as I did on the old extinct Caldera List that I used to park on. So, I am in no position to tell them to dumb it down as a general rule. I can ask to have a specific concept explained more simply, but as a general rule, it's to me to aspire and struggle to understand, not the other way around.
Google is your friend, when a big word or concept happens. I feel ya, and hear ya. I know exactly where you are coming from. Yet, one of our prison instructors always uses large words whenever possible, telling the inmates that it is not for him to be simple, it is up to them to learn something new and become vastened in the process. Then he told them to look that word up! I think I misspelled it myself! Yes, the process is ....
arduous adj 1: characterized by toilsome effort to the point of exhaustion; especially physical effort; "worked their arduous way up the mining valley"; "a grueling campaign"; "hard labor"; "heavy work"; "heavy going"; "spent many laborious hours on the project"; "set a punishing pace" [syn: backbreaking, grueling, gruelling, hard, heavy, laborious, punishing, toilsome]
But, you can DO ET! When all else fails, use some humor, lighten up, explain your problem and when you really screw up, admit it. This is a by far a more generous, tolerant and effective list than you will find anywhere, and I've made the rounds. Still, I feel ya, it can be a royal pain and it hurts to have to learn something intimately that seems like it ought to work out of the box. That bugs me no end, too. It's just the way it is for now, and it isn't bad at all. Just more difficult. Ric
"There is no such force as a man determined to rise." W.E.B. DuBois (my favorite socialist!)
On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 22:57 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
This is a by far a more generous, tolerant and effective list than you will find anywhere
I agree with you 100%, Ric! I remember when I first started out in Linux in 1997: I got roasted on the Slackware newsgroup for asking a question about DNS, and was told to RTFM, and a lot of people just jumped in and decided to have a go at me. Well, needless to say, that scared me off Linux for a while.
On this list, a lot of newbie questions get asked, and some in a rather rude way -- yet they also get answers, and frequently competent answers from knowledgeable people. If my start in Linux was on this list, I would have had a smoother and easier time, though it probably would have done nothing but preserve an attitude of entitlement (i.e. the attitude that says: "if these people really believed in Linux, they would teach and hand-hold me, or else the product is just not worth my time, and I'll go back to Microsoft")
RTFM is a good thing. It was only after reading the book by Cricket Liu and Paul Albitz, and the howto by Nicolas Langfeldt that I finally learned to setup primary, secondary and caching DNS servers.
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006, Chong Yu Meng wrote:
I agree with you 100%, Ric! I remember when I first started out in Linux in 1997: I got roasted on the Slackware newsgroup for asking a question about DNS, and was told to RTFM, and a lot of people just jumped in and decided to have a go at me. Well, needless to say, that scared me off
Even if appropriate, RTFM need only be uttered once per question, though parallel responses might cause others. Sometimes a correct response to RTFM is "Where is TFM?".
RTFM is a good thing. It was only after reading the book by Cricket Liu and Paul Albitz, and the howto by Nicolas Langfeldt that I finally learned to setup primary, secondary and caching DNS servers.
On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 09:35 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I agree with you 100%, Ric! I remember when I first started out in Linux in 1997: I got roasted on the Slackware newsgroup for asking a question about DNS, and was told to RTFM, and a lot of people just jumped in and decided to have a go at me. Well, needless to say, that scared me off
Even if appropriate, RTFM need only be uttered once per question, though parallel responses might cause others. Sometimes a correct response to RTFM is "Where is TFM?".
RTFM is a good thing. It was only after reading the book by Cricket Liu and Paul Albitz, and the howto by Nicolas Langfeldt that I finally learned to setup primary, secondary and caching DNS servers.
One of the problems with programs that have been around for decades is that you need to know which, if any, of the available FMs applies to the version that happens to be bundled in the distro. This is especially true when someone hasn't installed an app yet and is asking about its capabilities. So, an RTFM reply without an appropriate link is generally not only an insult, but unhelpful or even misleading if they go on to read the wrong FM.
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