Which package to file a bug against for the Live ISO?

[Jeffrey Walton]

Hi Everyone,

I screwed up an install on a GPT system. I booted back into the LiveCD
and tried to use gdisk (the GPT equivalent of fdisk). gdisk was
missing from the ISO.

I'd like to file a bug for the missing package, but I don't know which
package is used for the Live ISO.

Which package should I file a bug against for the Live ISO?

Thanks in advance.

[Barry]

> On 2 Feb 2025, at 08:17, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
>
> I'd like to file a bug for the missing package, but I don't know which
> package is used for the Live ISO.

The size limit of the ISO limits what packages are included.
To add a new package will required a strong argument.

I think that parted is on the iso and you could have used that.
Also you can install packages on to the live iso at runtime as the need arises I believe.

Barry

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 4:20 AM Barry  wrote:
> > On 2 Feb 2025, at 08:17, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to file a bug for the missing package, but I don't know which
> > package is used for the Live ISO.
>
> The size limit of the ISO limits what packages are included.
> To add a new package will required a strong argument.

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe the CD size limits are a factor
anymore, assuming you are referring to the roughly 650 MB size limit.
The latest x86_64 Live ISO image is 2.29 GB. See
https://forksystems.mm.fcix.net/fedora/linux/releases/41/Workstation/x86_64/iso/.

Or are you saying a new limit was hit around 2.2 GB?
> I think that parted is on the iso and you could have used that.
> Also you can install packages on to the live iso at runtime as the need arises I believe.

Jeff

[Barry]

> On 2 Feb 2025, at 09:38, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
>
> Or are you saying a new limit was hit around 2.2 GB?

I am not sure of the exact limit that fedora developers work too.
But if you look in the devel mailing list archive you will find discussions about exceeding the limit and what will have to be done to fix it.

Barry

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 3:16 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> I screwed up an install on a GPT system. I booted back into the LiveCD
> and tried to use gdisk (the GPT equivalent of fdisk). gdisk was
> missing from the ISO.
>
> I'd like to file a bug for the missing package, but I don't know which
> package is used for the Live ISO.
>
> Which package should I file a bug against for the Live ISO?

I think I am going to file against Anaconda since that is the Fedora
installation program. (Unless someone knows a better package).

Jeff

[Samuel Sieb]

On 2/3/25 9:11 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 3:16 AM Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> > I screwed up an install on a GPT system. I booted back into the LiveCD
> > and tried to use gdisk (the GPT equivalent of fdisk). gdisk was
> > missing from the ISO.
> >
> > I'd like to file a bug for the missing package, but I don't know which
> > package is used for the Live ISO.
> >
> > Which package should I file a bug against for the Live ISO?
>
> I think I am going to file against Anaconda since that is the Fedora
> installation program. (Unless someone knows a better package).

It's definitely not anaconda.  The installer isn't involved with what 
packages are included on the live image.

[Richard Shaw]

On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 8:25 AM Barry  wrote:
> > On 2 Feb 2025, at 09:38, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> >
> > Or are you saying a new limit was hit around 2.2 GB?
>
> I am not sure of the exact limit that fedora developers work too.
> But if you look in the devel mailing list archive you will find
> discussions about exceeding the limit and what will have to be done to fix
> it.

My memory may be faulty here but I think the reason for limiting packages
is because whatever's on the Live image gets installed on the system.

I agree that Gparted would be good to have but I just use System Rescue CD
in these situations.

Thanks,
Richard

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 7:41 AM Richard Shaw  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 8:25 AM Barry  wrote:
> > > On 2 Feb 2025, at 09:38, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> > >
> > > Or are you saying a new limit was hit around 2.2 GB?
> >
> > I am not sure of the exact limit that fedora developers work too.
> > But if you look in the devel mailing list archive you will find discussions about exceeding the limit and what will have to be done to fix it.
>
> My memory may be faulty here but I think the reason for limiting packages is because whatever's on the Live image gets installed on the system.
>
> I agree that Gparted would be good to have but I just use System Rescue CD in these situations.

The Live ISO's come with fdisk, but not gdisk. If a tool is going to
be supplied on x86_64, it should be gdisk given GPT has supplanted MBR
over the last 10 years plus. Plus, Anaconda switched to GPT in 2022;
see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GPTforBIOSbyDefault and
https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/4231.

Jeff

[Todd Zullinger]

Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 7:41 AM Richard Shaw
>  wrote:
> > I agree that Gparted would be good to have but I just use
> > System Rescue CD in these situations.
>
> The Live ISO's come with fdisk, but not gdisk. If a tool
> is going to be supplied on x86_64, it should be gdisk
> given GPT has supplanted MBR over the last 10 years plus.
> Plus, Anaconda switched to GPT in 2022; see
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GPTforBIOSbyDefault
> and https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/4231.

It's been some time since I had a need for it, but AFAIK,
fdisk from util-linux has supported GPT partitions for quite
a while now.  That should largely negate the need to add
gdisk to live images, I think.

Whether gparted makes sense is another matter, of course.  I
have found it handy as well, but I also found it simple
enough to install in the live image when I needed it.  For
whatever little that datapoint is worth. :)

[Samuel Sieb]

On 2/4/25 7:15 AM, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 7:41 AM Richard Shaw  wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 2, 2025 at 8:25 AM Barry  wrote:
> > > > On 2 Feb 2025, at 09:38, Jeffrey Walton  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Or are you saying a new limit was hit around 2.2 GB?
> > >
> > > I am not sure of the exact limit that fedora developers work too.
> > > But if you look in the devel mailing list archive you will find discussions about exceeding the limit and what will have to be done to fix it.
> >
> > My memory may be faulty here but I think the reason for limiting packages is because whatever's on the Live image gets installed on the system.
> >
> > I agree that Gparted would be good to have but I just use System Rescue CD in these situations.
>
> The Live ISO's come with fdisk, but not gdisk. If a tool is going to
> be supplied on x86_64, it should be gdisk given GPT has supplanted MBR
> over the last 10 years plus. Plus, Anaconda switched to GPT in 2022;
> see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GPTforBIOSbyDefault and
> https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/4231.

fdisk works just fine with GPT.  I use it often.