What is wrong with new kernels 5.12

[René Harder Olsen]

The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to continue after
login request.
Rene

[George N. White III]

On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 16:13, René Harder Olsen <rehol4(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to
> continue
>  after
>  login request.
>  
Can you login on the text console?   5.12.6 "works for me" on an elderly
desktop
with an old nVidia graphics card running under nouveau.


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[René Harder Olsen]

As soon I come to the login screen where the blue square is then screen freeze
up under kernel .5.12.6 & 5.12.5 where as everything is working as expected
under kernel 5.11.21 and both kde and Gnome
René

ons, 26 05 2021 kl. 16:46 -0300, skrev George N. White III:
>  On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 16:13, René Harder Olsen
> <rehol4(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to continue
>  > after
>  > login request.
>  > 
>  
>  
>  Can you login on the text console?   5.12.6 "works for me" on an elderly
>  desktop 
>  with an old nVidia graphics card running under nouveau.   
>  
>  
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[George N. White III]

On Wed, 26 May 2021 at 17:30, René Harder Olsen <rehol4(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  As soon I come to the login screen where the blue square is then
> screen
>  freeze up under kernel .5.12.6 & 5.12.5 where as everything is working as
>  expected under kernel 5.11.21 and both kde and Gnome
>  
I've encountered bugs that broke video or network drivers.   Invariably
others had reported the bugs
by the time I looked them up.  I had to stick with an older kernel until a
fix was available.    With buggy
video drivers the text console is usually still available to view dmesg for
errors.

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[Trevor McKay]

I also encountered errors with network drivers on the new kernels. I was using this
[rtl88x2bu](https://github.com/cilynx/rtl88x2bu) which broke after the update. I
eventually got [this one](https://github.com/RinCat/RTL88x2BU-Linux-Driver) to work, but
it threw me for a loop for a while.

>  I've encountered bugs that broke video or network drivers.
> Invariably others had reported the bugs
>  by the time I looked them up. I had to stick with an older kernel until a fix was
> available. With buggy
>  video drivers the text console is usually still available to view dmesg for errors.
>  --
>
>  George N. White III 
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-05-26 1:30 p.m., René Harder Olsen wrote:
>  As soon I come to the login screen where the blue square is then
> screen 
>  freeze up under kernel .5.12.6 & 5.12.5 where as everything is working 
>  as expected under kernel 5.11.21 and both kde and Gnome 
What is your video card?

[Robin Laing]

On 26/05/2021 13:12, René Harder Olsen wrote:
>  The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to
> continue after
>  login request.
>  Rene
>  
Just a comment

No video issues here but issues with USB3 external drives taking minutes 
to mount.  3 different drives.  Get error messages with dmesg that don't 
show up with the older kernel on this computer.

I spent over an hour to test hardware to ensure that it was good.

This was after an update very late last night.

More testing needed on my part.

Robin

[René Harder Olsen]

Hello.
Here is the system info:
Operating System: Fedora 34
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.82.0
Qt Version: 5.15.2
Kernel Version: 5.11.21-300.fc34.x86_64
OS Type: 64-bit
Graphics Platform: Wayland
Processors: 2 × Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU P8700 @ 2.53GHz
Memory: 7.7 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset

It is running a Lenovo T400
René


ons, 26 05 2021 kl. 14:19 -0700, skrev Samuel Sieb:
>  On 2021-05-26 1:30 p.m., René Harder Olsen wrote:
>  > As soon I come to the login screen where the blue square is then screen 
>  > freeze up under kernel .5.12.6 & 5.12.5 where as everything is working 
>  > as expected under kernel 5.11.21 and both kde and Gnome
>  
>  What is your video card?
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[jarmo]

Wed, 26 May 2021 21:12:56 +0200
René Harder Olsen <rehol4(a)gmail.com&gt; kirjoitti:

>  The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to
>  continue after login request.
>  Rene 
Tested two laptops, both quite old, Lenovo t61 and Toshiba
Satelite, both stopped working when updated into 5.12.6.
5.11.21 works fine, anyway...

Jarmo

[Ed Greshko]

On 27/05/2021 12:12, jarmo wrote:
>  Wed, 26 May 2021 21:12:56 +0200
>  René Harder Olsen <rehol4(a)gmail.com&gt; kirjoitti:
>
> > The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to
> > continue after login request.
> > Rene
>  Tested two laptops, both quite old, Lenovo t61 and Toshiba
>  Satelite, both stopped working when updated into 5.12.6.
>  5.11.21 works fine, anyway... 
FWIW, I've an Acer Aspire 5920 purchased sometime in 2007 or 2008.

[egreshko@acer ~]$ uname -r
5.12.6-300.fc34.x86_64

Working just fine.

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[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-05-26 9:12 p.m., jarmo wrote:
>  Wed, 26 May 2021 21:12:56 +0200
>  René Harder Olsen <rehol4(a)gmail.com&gt; kirjoitti:
>  
> > The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to
> > continue after login request.
> > Rene
>  
>  Tested two laptops, both quite old, Lenovo t61 and Toshiba
>  Satelite, both stopped working when updated into 5.12.6.
>  5.11.21 works fine, anyway... 
I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T510 from around 2010.  It has different Intel 
graphics and it works fine with that kernel.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-05-26 12:12 p.m., René Harder Olsen wrote:
>  The new kernel begin with version 5.12.5 and 5.12.6 refuses to
> continue after
>  login request. 
Does the mouse move?
Are you able to switch to a text console (CTRL-ALT-F3)?
If you can, then try logging in and check the log.  Otherwise, after 
trying the new kernel, then boot into an older kernel and run "sudo 
journalctl -b -1" and see if there's anything useful in the log.

[jarmo]

Wed, 26 May 2021 21:57:30 -0700
Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net&gt; kirjoitti:


>  Does the mouse move?
>  Are you able to switch to a text console (CTRL-ALT-F3)? 
Mine freezes totally, nothing than hard boot works...
But, 5.11.21 works..
And it's both F33 and F34. My desktop i7 and intel craphics
works ok with 5.12.6 F34...

Jarmo

[Samuel Sieb]

On 5/26/21 10:14 PM, jarmo wrote:
>  Wed, 26 May 2021 21:57:30 -0700
>  Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net&gt; kirjoitti:
>  
>  
> > Does the mouse move?
> > Are you able to switch to a text console (CTRL-ALT-F3)?
>  
>  Mine freezes totally, nothing than hard boot works...
>  But, 5.11.21 works..
>  And it's both F33 and F34. My desktop i7 and intel craphics
>  works ok with 5.12.6 F34... 
It works ok?  Then which kernel doesn't work?
Does pressing the power button go to suspend?  (Just a click, not 
holding it to power off.)
So the same thing for you.  After booting the not-working kernel, boot a 
working one and run "sudo journalctl -b -1" and see if there's anything 
at the end of the log that is relevant.

[jarmo]

Wed, 26 May 2021 22:44:49 -0700
Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net&gt; kirjoitti:


>  It works ok?  Then which kernel doesn't work?
>  Does pressing the power button go to suspend?  (Just a click, not 
>  holding it to power off.)
>  So the same thing for you.  After booting the not-working kernel,
>  boot a working one and run "sudo journalctl -b -1" and see if there's
>  anything at the end of the log that is relevant. 
In my desktop ALL works fine, but those tested 2 laptops didn't. Removed
allready (yesterday) after malfunctions, 5.12.6 kernels, so can't test
them.
At the moment, time limited to test...

Jarmo

[Ed Greshko]

On 27/05/2021 14:50, jarmo wrote:
>  Wed, 26 May 2021 22:44:49 -0700
>  Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net&gt; kirjoitti:
>
>
> > It works ok?  Then which kernel doesn't work?
> > Does pressing the power button go to suspend?  (Just a click, not
> > holding it to power off.)
> > So the same thing for you.  After booting the not-working kernel,
> > boot a working one and run "sudo journalctl -b -1" and see if there's
> > anything at the end of the log that is relevant.
>  In my desktop ALL works fine, but those tested 2 laptops didn't. Removed
>  allready (yesterday) after malfunctions, 5.12.6 kernels, so can't test
>  them.
>  At the moment, time limited to test...
>  
Well, you could do "journalctl --list-boots" and then find which once most
recently would correspond with
failed episodes.  Then use the number associated with those boots to exam the journal
output to see
if there is anything suspicious when compared with good boots.

The first few lines in the journal will tell you what kernel is being booted to.

For example....

  [egreshko@meimei ~]$ journalctl -b -123 | more
-- Journal begins at Sun 2020-12-27 18:33:37 CST, ends at Thu 2021-05-27 15:10:06
CST. --
Dec 27 18:35:30 meimei.greshko.com kernel: microcode: microcode updated early to r
evision 0xa, date = 2018-05-08
Dec 27 18:35:30 meimei.greshko.com kernel: Linux version 5.9.15-200.fc33.x86_64 (m
ockbuild(a)bkernel01.iad2.fedoraproject.org) (gcc (GCC) 10.2.1 20201125 (Red Hat 10.
2.1-9), GNU ld version 2.35-15.fc33) #1 SMP Wed Dec 16 19:14:35 UTC 2020
Dec 27 18:35:30 meimei.greshko.com kernel: Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,msdos1)/v
mlinuz-5.9.15-200.fc33.x86_64 root=UUID=4455f2e9-fed2-4e1e-856d-642b531547f9 ro rd
.driver.blacklist=nouveau modprobe.blacklist=nouveau nvidia-drm.modeset=1 nomodese
t

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[Rolf Fokkens]

Hoi Rene,

I'm also running into "hard freezes", although somewhat later. Can't
figure out the cause, made a ticket though:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1965809
At one point I saw a crash message related to nvme scrolling over my console, but
wasn't able to capture it completely. Ik could scroll the console output up and down
with my keyboard, but details were "scrolled out".

My system is based on an Asus PRIME B250M-A motherboard, with an Intel i5-7400 CPU CPU and
16GB RAM. Other details:

[root@home07 ~]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v6/7th Gen Core Processor Host
Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 05)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6th-10th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16)
(rev 05)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family USB 3.0 xHCI
Controller
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH CSME HECI #1
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH SATA controller [AHCI mode]
00:1b.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #21 (rev f0)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f0)
00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #8 (rev f0)
00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev f0)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH LPC Controller (B250)
00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family Power
Management Controller
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation 200 Series PCH HD Audio
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation 200 Series/Z370 Chipset Family SMBus Controller
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] (rev
a1)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GP107GL High Definition Audio Controller (rev
a1)
02:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller
SM981/PM981/PM983
04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express
Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15)
[root@home07 ~]# 

Rolf