Hello,
I have a question or suggestion for the fedora project:
Do you plan to support apt for tedora, so you have a apt repository where you can updated new releases packages with a simple
# apt-get install <packagename>
I assume, that you could not support this suggestion for the first release which is planed for novemter 2003. But it will be nice, if you can implementat this suggestion for the next final release.
Best Regards:
Jochen Schmitt
Check out www.fedora.us
It supports apt and yum.
Kreg
Jochen Schmitt wrote:
Hello,
I have a question or suggestion for the fedora project:
Do you plan to support apt for tedora, so you have a apt repository where you can updated new releases packages with a simple
# apt-get install <packagename>
I assume, that you could not support this suggestion for the first release which is planed for novemter 2003. But it will be nice, if you can implementat this suggestion for the next final release.
Best Regards:
Jochen Schmitt
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Hello,
I have a question or suggestion for the fedora project:
Do you plan to support apt for tedora, so you have a apt repository where you can updated new releases packages with a simple
# apt-get install <packagename>
I assume, that you could not support this suggestion for the first release which is planed for novemter 2003. But it will be nice, if you can implementat this suggestion for the next final release.
I agree with you, rpm enabled apt will be a great feature for maintenance when RHN go away. (I suppose that RHN will be available only to RHE users, this is right?). I maintained several RHL from 7.3 to 9 with apt without problems.
Augusto
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 04:27:48PM -0300, Augusto Cesar Radtke wrote:
when RHN go away. (I suppose that RHN will be available only to RHE users, this is right?).
RHN *will* provide Fedora Core updates during their maintanance lifetime; it will *not* be limited to only RHEL users.
michaelkjohnson
"He that composes himself is wiser than he that composes a book." Linux Application Development -- Ben Franklin http://people.redhat.com/johnsonm/lad/
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:00:03 -0400, you wrote:
RHN *will* provide Fedora Core updates during their maintanance lifetime; it will *not* be limited to only RHEL users.
If RHN will be still available, will be nice for compatiblity reasons.
But apt has the advance, that you can install every package over the internet, without worrying about dependicies and so on.
For a project, which is live on the internet, that may be an inprovment, so that users can easy install additionals packeges without worrying, whicht additional packages they have to download for fullfill the dependicies needs of the package, which should be installed.
Best Regards: Jochen Schmitt
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On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:27:33 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:00:03 -0400, you wrote:
RHN *will* provide Fedora Core updates during their maintanance lifetime; it will *not* be limited to only RHEL users.
If RHN will be still available, will be nice for compatiblity reasons.
But apt has the advance, that you can install every package over the internet, without worrying about dependicies and so on.
up2date can do that, too, for a long time.
And Yum also.
- -- Michael, who doesn't reply to top posts and complete quotes anymore.
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 21:48, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 22:27:33 +0200, Jochen Schmitt wrote:
But apt has the advance, that you can install every package over the internet, without worrying about dependicies and so on.
up2date can do that, too, for a long time.
And Yum also.
Yes, while I haven't tried Yum yet apt-get has the advantage over up2date in that it makes it easier to install new packages, and it can resume stalled downloads, which IIRC up2date, can't.
A combination of up2date, for delivering patches and fixes, and apt-get, for installing newly available packages, would be ideal.
James,
I missed the beginning of this thread, so I apologize if you have already answered this, but what about apt-get over up2date do you like for installing new packages? I use up2date all the time for that.
Erich
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 22:10, Erich S. Morisse wrote:
I missed the beginning of this thread, so I apologize if you have already answered this, but what about apt-get over up2date do you like for installing new packages? I use up2date all the time for that.
Well among other things the fact that if your connection drops you can recommence the download at the point you left off, which hasn't been my experience with up2date, this is especially important when downloading large packages over a dial-up link.
The gnome based frontend, synaptic, makes browsing the available software easy, with the software collected into sensible categories, and newly available packages clearly marked. Up2date, in the form that it is found in RH 8.0 and 9, only really allows you to install packages that are part of the base system in their most recent form.
Apt will sort out the dependencies required to install non-standard applications such as Bluefish or Rhythmbox that are provided by third parties without having to worry that installing the new package will break something currently installed.
Basically what it boils down to, for me personally, is that while up2date is a great tool for installing packages that are part of the standard distro apt excels in taking the potential hassle out of installing new packages that aren't part of the distribution.
It also is a boon for people on unreliable or slow connections who want to keep their system fully patched up. It also demystifies the process of installing third-party software for linux, which is always a good thing, IMO ;)
On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 16:30, James Keasley wrote:
Well among other things the fact that if your connection drops you can recommence the download at the point you left off, which hasn't been my experience with up2date, this is especially important when downloading large packages over a dial-up link.
Agreed. up2date doesn't know whether to puke, die, or just stand still when the network connection hiccups, rendering it unusable for those of us in rural, dial-up America. Luckily, I have a friendly tech-shop in town with a hot-spot that I piggy-back on to get my rhn up2dates. RHN is a great service, though, and I'm confident that up2date will eventually become more robust with respect to network connectivity.
Michael Schwendt wrote:
... Michael, who doesn't reply to top posts and complete quotes anymore.
Vicious! I like it! :-)
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