suspend on lid closed doesn't work

[Paolo Galtieri]

Folks,
   I have 2 laptops, one running F31 the other F34.  When I close the 
lid on the F31 system it suspends as it is supposed to.  I can ping the 
system and I get no response.  On the F34 system I close the lid and the 
system continues running.  I can still login to the system from the 
external monitor.  The power management configuration says suspend on 
lid closed on both systems.  I discovered that the reason it doesn't 
suspend on the F34 system is the external monitor.  My systems share an 
external monitor via a kvm switch.  Depending on which system the 
external monitor is connected to that system will not suspend on lid 
closure.  I verified the same thing happens with the F31 system.  There 
is nothing in the power management configuration that says anything 
about an external devices.

Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed 
regardless of any external devices?

One thing I should mention is that the external monitor is directly 
connected to the F34 system via an HDMI cable, it's only the keyboard 
and mouse that go through the kvm switch. If I directly connect the 
monitor to the F31 system, also via HDMI, then it also fails to suspend 
on lid closure.

Any help is appreciated.

Paolo

[Roger Heflin]

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 10:27 AM Paolo Galtieri  wrote:
> Folks,
>    I have 2 laptops, one running F31 the other F34.  When I close the
> lid on the F31 system it suspends as it is supposed to.  I can ping the
> system and I get no response.  On the F34 system I close the lid and the
> system continues running.  I can still login to the system from the
> external monitor.  The power management configuration says suspend on
> lid closed on both systems.  I discovered that the reason it doesn't
> suspend on the F34 system is the external monitor.  My systems share an
> external monitor via a kvm switch.  Depending on which system the
> external monitor is connected to that system will not suspend on lid
> closure.  I verified the same thing happens with the F31 system.  There
> is nothing in the power management configuration that says anything
> about an external devices.
>
> Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed
> regardless of any external devices?
>
> One thing I should mention is that the external monitor is directly
> connected to the F34 system via an HDMI cable, it's only the keyboard
> and mouse that go through the kvm switch. If I directly connect the
> monitor to the F31 system, also via HDMI, then it also fails to suspend
> on lid closure.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Paolo

This is kind of a crude way to do this, but in my case I have mine doing
something that is not normally configurable.

I have rc.local enabled in systemctl, and I have these 2 lines in the file,
so that the script starts on every boot up.

/root/set-cpufreq-down-on-lid-close.sh &
disown

This is the script, it runs forever, and checks the lid state every 10
seconds and then if the state changes it turns the cpus max allowed speed
to their min speed (400mhz).

When the lid is opened it turns the cpus back up (3.1ghz)

If I ssh/vnc into the machine when the lid is closed I run highspeed
manually to bring it back up to full power (3.1ghz).

You only need to replace the lowspeed command with the command to suspend
the machine.  The laptop hardware will take care of the lid open turning it
on I think so my highspeed code section won't do anything in your case.

#!/bin/bash
> laststate=open
> while [ true ] ; do
>   lidstate=`cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state | awk '{print $2}'`
>   if [ "${lidstate}" == "open" ] && [ "${laststate}" == "closed" ] ; then
>     logger -s "at `date` lid was opened - full speed"
>     /usr/local/bin/highspeed
>     laststate=${lidstate}
>     grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo | logger -s
>   elif [ "${lidstate}" == "closed" ] && [ "${laststate}" == "open" ] ; then
>       logger -s "at `date` lid was closed - low speed"
>       /usr/local/bin/lowspeed
>       laststate=${lidstate}
>       grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo | logger -s
>   fi
>   sleep 10
> done

[Barry]

> On 17 Mar 2022, at 15:27, Paolo Galtieri  wrote:
>
> Folks,
>   I have 2 laptops, one running F31 the other F34.  When I close the lid on the F31 system it suspends as it is supposed to.  I can ping the system and I get no response.  On the F34 system I close the lid and the system continues running.  I can still login to the system from the external monitor.  The power management configuration says suspend on lid closed on both systems.  I discovered that the reason it doesn't suspend on the F34 system is the external monitor.  My systems share an external monitor via a kvm switch.  Depending on which system the external monitor is connected to that system will not suspend on lid closure.  I verified the same thing happens with the F31 system.  There is nothing in the power management configuration that says anything about an external devices.

My guess is that the lid closed is ignored because you can “obviously”
use the system on the external display. Is there and external keyboard or
Mouse connected as well?

MacOS allows the system to run with the lid closed only if,
power, keyboard and screen and connected. I wonder if the DE is doing the same?

Barry
> Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed regardless of any external devices?
>
> One thing I should mention is that the external monitor is directly connected to the F34 system via an HDMI cable, it's only the keyboard and mouse that go through the kvm switch. If I directly connect the monitor to the F31 system, also via HDMI, then it also fails to suspend on lid closure.
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Paolo
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[Paolo Galtieri]

In my case there is an external mouse and keyboard.  It's the presence 
of the external monitor that causes the problem.  All my systems share 
keyboard and mouse via kvm switch.  One system shares the monitor via 
the kvm switch (it's VGA) while the laptop in question is directly 
connected to the laptop via HDMI cable.

Paolo

On 3/17/22 11:48, Barry wrote:
> > On 17 Mar 2022, at 15:27, Paolo Galtieri  wrote:
> >
> > Folks,
> >    I have 2 laptops, one running F31 the other F34.  When I close the lid on the F31 system it suspends as it is supposed to.  I can ping the system and I get no response.  On the F34 system I close the lid and the system continues running.  I can still login to the system from the external monitor.  The power management configuration says suspend on lid closed on both systems.  I discovered that the reason it doesn't suspend on the F34 system is the external monitor.  My systems share an external monitor via a kvm switch.  Depending on which system the external monitor is connected to that system will not suspend on lid closure.  I verified the same thing happens with the F31 system.  There is nothing in the power management configuration that says anything about an external devices.
>
> My guess is that the lid closed is ignored because you can “obviously”
> use the system on the external display. Is there and external keyboard or
> Mouse connected as well?
>
> MacOS allows the system to run with the lid closed only if,
> power, keyboard and screen and connected. I wonder if the DE is doing the same?
>
> Barry
> > Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed regardless of any external devices?
> >
> > One thing I should mention is that the external monitor is directly connected to the F34 system via an HDMI cable, it's only the keyboard and mouse that go through the kvm switch. If I directly connect the monitor to the F31 system, also via HDMI, then it also fails to suspend on lid closure.
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Paolo
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[Jon LaBadie]

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:27:02AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> Folks,
>   I have 2 laptops, one running F31 the other F34.  When I close the
> lid on the F31 system it suspends as it is supposed to.  I can ping the
> system and I get no response.  On the F34 system I close the lid and the
> system continues running.  I can still login to the system from the
> external monitor.  The power management configuration says suspend on
> lid closed on both systems.  I discovered that the reason it doesn't
> suspend on the F34 system is the external monitor.  My systems share an
> external monitor via a kvm switch.  Depending on which system the
> external monitor is connected to that system will not suspend on lid
> closure.  I verified the same thing happens with the F31 system.  There
> is nothing in the power management configuration that says anything
> about an external devices.
>
> Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed
> regardless of any external devices?
>
> One thing I should mention is that the external monitor is directly
> connected to the F34 system via an HDMI cable, it's only the keyboard
> and mouse that go through the kvm switch. If I directly connect the
> monitor to the F31 system, also via HDMI, then it also fails to suspend
> on lid closure.
>
> Any help is appreciated.

No help, but I wonder if this is a "feature".

If at home I hook my laptop up to a monitor/keyboard, I don't want
to keep the lid open and certainly don't want it to suspend when
because the lid is closed.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 3/17/22 08:27, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed 
> regardless of any external devices?

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/issues/111

[Paolo Galtieri]

I guess this bug also applies to MATE, because I don't run Gnome.  I 
wonder how many other desktops this problem applies to.

Paolo

On 3/17/22 15:43, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 3/17/22 08:27, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed 
> > regardless of any external devices?
>
> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/issues/111
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[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:27:02AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed
> regardless of any external devices?

Might be a result of your
/etc/systemd/logind.conf

Default in that file seems to be:
HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore

Have you tried to set this to:
HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend

After changes you may need to logout/login, or simply reboot your
machine. If unsure, I'd reboot.

From man logind.conf(5):

"If the system is inserted in a docking station, or if more than one
display is connected, the action specified by HandleLidSwitchDocked=
occurs"

Wolfgang

[Paolo Galtieri]

This is a known issue

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/issues/111

However it's 3 years old, and no one seems to be doing anything. I'm 
running MATE and this issue still applies, I wonder how many other DE's 
it affects.

Paolo

On 3/20/22 16:46, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:27:02AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed
> > regardless of any external devices?
>
> Might be a result of your
> /etc/systemd/logind.conf
>
> Default in that file seems to be:
> HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore
>
> Have you tried to set this to:
> HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend
>
> After changes you may need to logout/login, or simply reboot your
> machine. If unsure, I'd reboot.
>
> From man logind.conf(5):
>
> "If the system is inserted in a docking station, or if more than one
> display is connected, the action specified by HandleLidSwitchDocked=
> occurs"
>
> Wolfgang
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[Samuel Sieb]

On 3/20/22 16:46, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:27:02AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed
> > regardless of any external devices?
>
> Might be a result of your
> /etc/systemd/logind.conf
>
> Default in that file seems to be:
> HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore
>
> Have you tried to set this to:
> HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend
>
> After changes you may need to logout/login, or simply reboot your
> machine. If unsure, I'd reboot.
>
> From man logind.conf(5):
>
> "If the system is inserted in a docking station, or if more than one
> display is connected, the action specified by HandleLidSwitchDocked=
> occurs"

That option doesn't make any difference.  Gnome has its own inhibitor:
gsd-power      handle-lid-switch        External monitor attached or 
configuration changed recently		block

There's no way around it.

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 12:32:14AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 3/20/22 16:46, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:27:02AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > > Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed
> > > regardless of any external devices?
> >
> > Might be a result of your
> > /etc/systemd/logind.conf
> >
> > Default in that file seems to be:
> > HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore
> >
> > Have you tried to set this to:
> > HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend
> >
> > After changes you may need to logout/login, or simply reboot your
> > machine. If unsure, I'd reboot.
> >
> > From man logind.conf(5):
> >
> > "If the system is inserted in a docking station, or if more than one
> > display is connected, the action specified by HandleLidSwitchDocked=
> > occurs"
>
> That option doesn't make any difference.  Gnome has its own inhibitor:
> gsd-power      handle-lid-switch        External monitor attached or
> configuration changed recently		block
>
> There's no way around it.

... except one posting on the gitlab page you mentioned suggests the
solution I recommended, and for Gnome, it seems ... ;)

Works here still on F34, X11, i3, too: single monitor connected via
HDMI to a laptop.  Except I only changed logind.conf, back in 2018,
nothing more, it seems.

In /etc/UPower/UPower.conf tho' I have this, different from what was
suggested on the gitlab page:
IgnoreLid=false

Just tested it again - works: closing the lid with a connected monitor
switches off both; resuming switches on both without issues.

Wolfgang

[Paolo Galtieri]

In my /etc/UPower/UPower.conf I have

IgnoreLid=false

When I close the lid of my laptop it does appear to suspend, the monitor 
goes blank and neither mouse nor keyboard respond, however after a few 
seconds everything resumes and I can login.

Paolo

On 3/21/22 09:35, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 12:32:14AM -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 3/20/22 16:46, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 08:27:02AM -0700, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> > > > Is there any way to actually suspend a laptop when the lid is closed
> > > > regardless of any external devices?
> > >
> > > Might be a result of your
> > > /etc/systemd/logind.conf
> > >
> > > Default in that file seems to be:
> > > HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore
> > >
> > > Have you tried to set this to:
> > > HandleLidSwitchDocked=suspend
> > >
> > > After changes you may need to logout/login, or simply reboot your
> > > machine. If unsure, I'd reboot.
> > >
> > > From man logind.conf(5):
> > >
> > > "If the system is inserted in a docking station, or if more than one
> > > display is connected, the action specified by HandleLidSwitchDocked=
> > > occurs"
> >
> > That option doesn't make any difference.  Gnome has its own inhibitor:
> > gsd-power      handle-lid-switch        External monitor attached or
> > configuration changed recently        block
> >
> > There's no way around it.
>
> ... except one posting on the gitlab page you mentioned suggests the
> solution I recommended, and for Gnome, it seems ... ;)
>
> Works here still on F34, X11, i3, too: single monitor connected via
> HDMI to a laptop.  Except I only changed logind.conf, back in 2018,
> nothing more, it seems.
>
> In /etc/UPower/UPower.conf tho' I have this, different from what was
> suggested on the gitlab page:
> IgnoreLid=false
>
> Just tested it again - works: closing the lid with a connected monitor
> switches off both; resuming switches on both without issues.
>
> Wolfgang
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[greg]

> When I close the lid of my laptop it does appear to suspend, the monitor
> goes blank and neither mouse nor keyboard respond, however after a few
> seconds everything resumes and I can login.

FWIW, I had a similar behavior when I was trying to change the configuration of
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power-510.47.03-1.fc35.x86_64

greg