GIMP File Dialogues

[Jonathan Allen]

G'day All,

Re: Gimp on FC3

I have managed to get OO using the 'normal' file dialogues by selecting
the option to use the OO dialogues, but I can't find the same sort of
option in GIMP.  How can I use the standard dialogues that I can just
type a full path-name into, in GIMP ?

Jonathan

[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

Jonathan Allen wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> Re: Gimp on FC3
>
> I have managed to get OO using the 'normal' file dialogues by selecting
> the option to use the OO dialogues, but I can't find the same sort of
> option in GIMP.  How can I use the standard dialogues that I can just
> type a full path-name into, in GIMP ?
>
> Jonathan

Just to add to the dialog frustration... Who came up with this idea of 
these file dialogs in GNOME?? That's *anti* userfriendly!! Sure you 
still can type your paths in... If you press ctrl+l HOW INTUITIVE IS 
THAT?? I still very much prefer the "old" interface of the file dialogs. 
I was more productive doing file tasks FASTER.

[Jim Higson]

On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 10:30, Gain Paolo Mureddu wrote:
> Jonathan Allen wrote:
> > G'day All,
> >
> > Re: Gimp on FC3
> >
> > I have managed to get OO using the 'normal' file dialogues by selecting
> > the option to use the OO dialogues, but I can't find the same sort of
> > option in GIMP.  How can I use the standard dialogues that I can just
> > type a full path-name into, in GIMP ?
> >
> > Jonathan
>
> Just to add to the dialog frustration... Who came up with this idea of
> these file dialogs in GNOME?? That's *anti* userfriendly!! Sure you
> still can type your paths in... If you press ctrl+l HOW INTUITIVE IS
> THAT?? I still very much prefer the "old" interface of the file dialogs.
> I was more productive doing file tasks FASTER.

While the new file dialogs are one of my favorite parts of GNOME, it's 
completely subjective.

[Oldman]

On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 12:04 +0000, Jim Higson wrote:
> On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 10:30, Gain Paolo Mureddu wrote:
> > Jonathan Allen wrote:
> > > G'day All,
> > >
> > > Re: Gimp on FC3
> > >
> > > I have managed to get OO using the 'normal' file dialogues by selecting
> > > the option to use the OO dialogues, but I can't find the same sort of
> > > option in GIMP.  How can I use the standard dialogues that I can just
> > > type a full path-name into, in GIMP ?
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> >
> > Just to add to the dialog frustration... Who came up with this idea of
> > these file dialogs in GNOME?? That's *anti* userfriendly!! Sure you
> > still can type your paths in... If you press ctrl+l HOW INTUITIVE IS
> > THAT?? I still very much prefer the "old" interface of the file dialogs.
> > I was more productive doing file tasks FASTER.
>
> While the new file dialogs are one of my favorite parts of GNOME, it's 
> completely subjective.
>
> -- 
> Jim

You can simply start typing the address, a window pops open showing
what you're typing press enter and voila!

Scott

[Rahul Sundaram]

Hi
> Just to add to the dialog frustration... Who came up with this idea of
> these file dialogs in GNOME?? That's *anti* userfriendly!! Sure you
> still can type your paths in... If you press ctrl+l HOW INTUITIVE IS
> THAT?? I still very much prefer the "old" interface of the file dialogs.
> I was more productive doing file tasks FASTER.

fc4 will have a context menu option for the location prompt in
addition to control+L

[Jim Higson]

On Sunday 30 Jan 2005 10:19, Jonathan Allen wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> Re: Gimp on FC3
>
> I have managed to get OO using the 'normal' file dialogues...

I'm not sure what you mean by normal, either:

a) you use KDE and have gotten it to use the KDE dialogs, ie the normal ones 
on your system

b) you use GNOME but don't like the new GNOME dialogs, and have got OpenOffice 
to use it's generic (non NWF) ones.
> by selecting 
> the option to use the OO dialogues, but I can't find the same sort of
> option in GIMP.  How can I use the standard dialogues that I can just 
> type a full path-name into, in GIMP ?

I'm not sure what you mean by standard, but I doubt this is possible. I am 
certain there is no way to use the KDE save dialogs, nor the old GNOME ones.

[Jonathan Allen]

Jim Higson said:
> I'm not sure what you mean by normal, either:
>
> b) you use GNOME but don't like the new GNOME dialogs, and have got
>    OpenOffice to use it's generic (non NWF) ones.

Exactly so.  I use Gnome and don't like the new dialogues.  Having
found relief for OO, I was disapppointed when GIMP went the same way.

One of the problems with Ctrl-L (apart from its lack of intuitiveness)
is that it doesn't remember the context for the next time round.  If you
want to open a set of files in a (non-home) directory, you do Ctrl-L
and put in the full pathname of the first file, then have to duplicate
the whole process for the second filename and so on.  It might remember
the path and select the remote directory as its CWD.
> I am certain there is no way to use the KDE save dialogs, nor the old
> GNOME ones.

I am suprised that such a significant degregation of the user interface
made it through testing.  Most of us cannot be in too many places at the
same time, so simply get dumped with whatever each community's "in thing"
is, usually without being asked, but this is such a large change for the
worse that I'm staggered that it can't be simply turned on or off by
an option on each program (like OO) or an environment variable.

Jonathan

[Rahul Sundaram]

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 12:43:44 +0000 (GMT), Jonathan Allen
 wrote:
> Jim Higson said:
> > I'm not sure what you mean by normal, either:
> >
> > b) you use GNOME but don't like the new GNOME dialogs, and have got
> >    OpenOffice to use it's generic (non NWF) ones.
>
> Exactly so.  I use Gnome and don't like the new dialogues.  Having
> found relief for OO, I was disapppointed when GIMP went the same way.
>
> One of the problems with Ctrl-L (apart from its lack of intuitiveness)
> is that it doesn't remember the context for the next time round.  If you
> want to open a set of files in a (non-home) directory, you do Ctrl-L
> and put in the full pathname of the first file, then have to duplicate
> the whole process for the second filename and so on.  It might remember
> the path and select the remote directory as its CWD.

you could use bookmarks for now and file bugs at bugzilla.gnome.org. I
suspect that this behaviour is application based.
> > I am certain there is no way to use the KDE save dialogs, nor the old
> > GNOME ones.
>
> I am suprised that such a significant degregation of the user interface
> made it through testing.  Most of us cannot be in too many places at the
> same time, so simply get dumped with whatever each community's "in thing"
> is, usually without being asked, but this is such a large change for the
> worse that I'm staggered that it can't be simply turned on or off by
> an option on each program (like OO) or an environment variable.
>
> Jonathan

your opinion is subjective

Regards,
Rahul Sundaram

[Gain Paolo Mureddu]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> I suspect that this behaviour is application based.

Actually no... There is a whole library within GNOME dedicated JUST to 
that, file operations from the file->menu. So programmers just call & 
link to that library and the file selector comes up... I can't help but 
think: such a simple applicaton and they *had* to complicate it... The 
actual layout is OK, but if they had just included a location bar-like 
widget, that would have been swell...

[Rahul Sundaram]

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:07:40 -0600, Gain Paolo Mureddu
 wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > I suspect that this behaviour is application based.
>
> Actually no... There is a whole library within GNOME dedicated JUST to
> that, file operations from the file->menu.

file bugs in  bugzilla.gnome.org then

changing the location of squirrelmail FC3

[François Patte]

Bonjour,

I have installed squirrelmail using rpm on FC3.

In order to use it only under https protocol, I moved the whole
installation from /usr/share to /var/www/private and changed the group
to apache and permissions to 750 and 640.

Everything seems to work exept plugin pgp. I get these error messages in
/var/log/httpd/ssl_error.log:

[client 82.123.141.104] PHP Notice:  Undefined variable:  matches in
/var/www/private/squirrelmail/plugins/gpg/setup.php on line 31,
referer: https://my-web/
[client 82.123.141.104] PHP Notice:  Undefined variable:  matches in
/var/www/private/squirrelmail/plugins/gpg/setup.php on line 31,
referer: https://my-web/webmail/src/login.php
[client 82.123.141.104] PHP Notice:  Undefined variable:  matches in
/var/www/private/squirrelmail/plugins/gpg/setup.php on line 31,
referer: https://my-web/webmail/src/redirect.php
.... a lot of other messages of the like....

Did I forget something?

Thank you for any help.
--
François Patte
Ecole française d'Extrême-Orient - Pune - Inde
UFR de mathématiques, Université René Descartes - Paris
http://wwww.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte